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Old 02-19-2008, 12:05 PM   #1
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Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

Starting the new project soon with Jeff Chambers of CRT Performance. Eliminating EFI system and going carbureted. Components will be a Sullivan 1-101B open pelenium intake, Proform 650 cfm series racing carb, Zex perimeter nitrous plate.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:07 PM   #2
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

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Starting the new project soon with Jeff Chambers of CRT Performance. Eliminating EFI system and going carbureted. Components will be a Sullivan 1-101B open pelenium intake, Proform 650 cfm series racing carb, Zex perimeter nitrous plate.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:17 PM   #3
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

have you built your motor yet?
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:11 PM   #4
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

Lookin' really nice, Phil... I pulled the intake on my mach1 for the first time, yesterday. I have a secondary chain tensioner that's bad (nylon came off the guide/rail) on the driver's side. These modulars kinda suck to work on compared to 5.0L stuff.

I like how clean/simplified you're setup looks... very nice!

Are you still going to be using the NX 'noids??
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:04 AM   #5
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This is the setup I'm after using a Hilborn style carb scoop/air cleaner for a true ram air affect. The internal carb filter would be used on the street and I would take it off for the track. I can't use the factory style hood due to the opening being to far forward. I would have to cut the hood, but I'm not doing that to this hood.
Looks awesome Phil . Old school look .

Id have a C.F. hood fabricated to fit your application .
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Old 03-01-2008, 07:37 PM   #6
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Phil, heres the nitrous fuel system. Sorry I took so long.
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:14 PM   #7
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Starting the new project soon with Jeff Chambers of CRT Performance. Eliminating EFI system and going carbureted. Components will be a Sullivan 1-101B open pelenium intake, Proform 650 cfm series racing carb, Zex perimeter nitrous plate.
So what is the purpose of this if you dont mind me asking ?


Why not direct port and run a wet system ?
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:47 PM   #8
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To make more hp at top end on the factory motor. Because I don't want to run a direct port nitrous system, maybe in the future one day when I have a built motor.
So what your saying is that set-up is better then the dry set-up ?
But less hp then the wet set-up ?


How many miles are on your stock longblock ?

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Old 02-19-2008, 08:02 PM   #9
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I have always ran a wet nitrous system. This ZEX perimeter plate is a wet system also and yes, this is a much better setup then my factory setup for top end hp and for nitrous. I will be running a 175 NX shot just like last year. This setup is designed to flow fuel and straight into the heads with hardley any chance of puddling, compared to the factory intake. This intake can be setup for direct nitrous port down the road.

I will also be taking more weight off the vehicle by switching to a carb setup and pulling all the EFI components. The shaker/bracket assembly weighs 14 lbs. The factory intake is heavy compared to this intake. I will be going to a plastic foam lined 8 gal fuel cell compared to the steel tank, more weight knocked off. This setup will be unique/different and old school tunning. Then when I have the heads ported & different cams, built motor down the road, is when this setup will really shine.

I just turned over 10,000 miles in Oct, 07..

Sounds quite interesting Phil . Will the computer be able to tune for carburetor ?

Very cool Phil ! Me likes !

No more shaker or hood ?
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:33 PM   #10
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

If you are going carb, why stick with the small displacement mod motor? Get yourself a Man-O-War block, punch it out to 4.125 bore, 4 stroke so you have a 427 small block. Then add the carb and bottle and start shooting for deep in the 9s

From the dyno numbers I've seen on carbed mod motor setups, they make some nice peak numbers but area under the curve is sacrificed.

Definitely interested to see your results with the same amount of nitrous.

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Old 02-20-2008, 12:57 PM   #11
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If you are going carb, why stick with the small displacement mod motor? Get yourself a Man-O-War block, punch it out to 4.125 bore, 4 stroke so you have a 427 small block. Then add the carb and bottle and start shooting for deep in the 9s

From the dyno numbers I've seen on carbed mod motor setups, they make some nice peak numbers but area under the curve is sacrificed.

Definitely interested to see your results with the same amount of nitrous.

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Using a 1" - 1.5" Wilson Manifolds tapered carb spacer can help the area under the curve. I have not seen any Carb Mod Motor dyno tests using this tapered spacer yet.

In the MM&FF Dec 2007 issue, a 4.6l DOHC intake dyno test was done on every type EFI & carb intake avaliable for this motor. It's a very good article and very interesting. A Sean Hyland 405 hp built motor was used that has ported heads & stage 1 cams and 1.625" primary Hooker Headers. With the factory EFI intake setup it produced 408hp. The Sullivan with a 750 Holley produced 436 hp. Like you were saying the area under the curve is way down. Not the choice I would go for a street machine.

Jeff Chambers got me thinking a little while back when he was talking to me about possibly going carbureted. Then when I ran accross a new Sullivan 1-101B intake for $500 shipped, I jumped on it. For the track, I like the idea and am willing to give it a shot, especially with the nitrous on this setup and backing it up with a Liberty Gears modified/face plated TKO 500.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:53 PM   #12
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

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Starting the new project soon with Jeff Chambers of CRT Performance. Eliminating EFI system and going carbureted. Components will be a Sullivan 1-101B open pelenium intake, Proform 650 cfm series racing carb, Zex perimeter nitrous plate.
A good friend of mine just completed this swap on his 01 cobra.
http://www.fortwaynemuscle.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:23 PM   #13
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Looks great Phil,
Very nice clean work as usual.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:28 AM   #14
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Just got the Wilson tapered 1.5" four hole spacer. This will help increase air flow velocity. Will help to not disrupt the air flow when the nitrous plate starts spraying. Will better atomize the fuel/nitrous then without the tapered spacer.

I do plan on trying some dynos with spacer & without. Both N/A & Nitrous. I'mplanning on having my Mach trailered to CRT Performance end of this month. I just ordered Crower cams and spring/retainer kit. I'm trying to finish all the fuel/nitrous plumbing before Jeff gets it. My trans was finally delivered to CRT Performance last week from Liberty's Gears. I have the Quick Time steel bell housing which weighs 22 lbs & SFI 6.1.
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:10 PM   #15
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Nice card is the CFM 900+? That should really boost your performance. With FI I miss the carb performance days it nice to see them in use.



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Old 05-21-2008, 09:08 AM   #16
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Re: Custom Intake Carbureted & Nitrous Setup

That's my setup!! Been running it since beginning of April and loving it. I left my factory ECU in. But my ignition is ran by an MSD Mod 6 PN6011. I'm still pretty stock yet but it looks mean as hell. The carb setup is something that is not done very often on these cars, but looks great. I love old school look. I have the zex perimeter plate as well, just haven't put it on. I wanted to get it all tuned and feeling right before I threw 100 shot on. Here's the link:
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