Official Whipple/KB/Eaton HP/TQ/mods thread:

[nickster]

my rwhp and tq is in my sig.

[d18urzr1]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Mine is a weekend only car. Sure it can be driven everyday. I still get low 20's for gas mileage when I dont get in it all the time. I had a Procharger before. Granted I only ran it on 11 lbs. of boost but my Whipple blows it away in every aspect. But I'm sure I'll get flamed for that.

wtf procharger procarger better than whipple....thanks for reminding me i almost missed this post......id still love a swing at you with you using a strick pump gas tune no additives....

we both make the same power cheating using the torco mix and timing advance( unless you changed already from the 700)....pump gas to pump gas woman......any times yet for god sakes?

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by d18urzr1

wtf procharger procarger better than whipple....thanks for reminding me i almost missed this post......id still love a swing at you with you using a strick pump gas tune no additives....

we both make the same power cheating using the torco mix and timing advance( unless you changed already from the 700)....pump gas to pump gas woman......any times yet for god sakes?

You quoted my post that's 5 days short of a year there Sherlock. Time slips? Yep. Going to post them up here or any of the major boards and ruin my chances in area events? Not going to happen. Lets try and stay on topic here. You slowcharger, I mean Procharger guys have your own thread going.

[Madmax305]

What's up with the procharger guys? Why are they always so defensive and quick to talk smack? Are they feeling inadequate with what they have? They need to keep the smack talk in there own dedicated forums.

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by Madmax305

What's up with the procharger guys? Why are they always so defensive and quick to talk smack? Are they feeling inadequate with what they have? They need to keep the smack talk in there own dedicated forums.

It's called envy Doyle.

[Madmax305]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

It's called envy Doyle.

I agree Scott!

[d18urzr1]

Originally Posted by Madmax305

I agree Scott!

yes lets all get serious......lol and what do you mean ruin your chances???

[vtecDIS]

Originally Posted by Scott McClure

You quoted my post that's 5 days short of a year there Sherlock. Time slips? Yep. Going to post them up here or any of the major boards and ruin my chances in area events? Not going to happen. Lets try and stay on topic here. You slowcharger, I mean Procharger guys have your own thread going.

u guys got the numbers, now you should run the 1/4 and settle this

[d18urzr1]

Originally Posted by vtecDIS

u guys got the numbers, now you should run the 1/4 and settle this

we would have to do it close to an air port so his car doesnt run out of race fuel lol.....plus his mom will kick him out of the house if he gets a speeding ticket lol

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by d18urzr1

we would have to do it close to an air port so his car doesnt run out of race fuel lol.....plus his mom will kick him out of the house if he gets a speeding ticket lol

No race gas here. Just 93 octane plus Torco. A race gas tune would have put me in the high 700's.

[Mister L]

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

[wesking1]

Originally Posted by Mister L

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

Very nice

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by Mister L

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

Marty, spin that puppy would you?

Glad your happy.

[lxh89]

Originally Posted by Mister L

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

9:1 compression, 3" upper and only 13psi of boost?

Tony

[Scott McClure]

That's what I was thinking Tony. Marty any belt slip?

[Mister L]

I did initially have belt slip (around 5800 rpm) and tried to find a better fitting belt, but I couldn't find one for a 3.5 upper so I changed to a 3.0 and a different belt that worked. With the 3.0 it increased my HP about 70 but the torque came up a hundred. I know I can run more boost but it has enough for me (at the moment) and I want some longevity out of this motor. With a 91 octane tune it still put down 600/575 with 15deg.

Dyno day sucked. Moved car from OKC via trailer to Dallas a few days prior. Dyno day had rain and I find out my wipers are inop and I'm driving in Dallas where I haven't a clue where I'm going and trying to follow someone to get me there. Car won't hardly run (WTF?) I'm having to work the clutch, throttle, hand brake and keep the RPMs about 1500 at a gazillion enroute stop signs! No cash on me so I can't take the tollway and my stress is peaked. Get on the dyno and my Xcal2 takes a dump. Buy a 3, start the car and the MAFia is broke, (no MAF signal and I get another one)..........lets just say the day was long and 'spensive! Sorry for the long post but that was one heck of a day. I drove the car back to OKC with a smile and I like the Comp cams.

[Mister L]

Originally Posted by lxh89

9:1 compression, 3" upper and only 13psi of boost?

Tony

Is that odd? Should it be higher? With a 3.5 upper and stock lower I was only showing 9psi on my Boost gage. With the 3.0 it shows 13.....maybe I'm missing something............perhaps the loss is stage 3 cams or are you saying "Dude, WTF, Spin that MOFO! ?

[lxh89]

Originally Posted by Mister L

Is that odd? Should it be higher? With a 3.5 upper and stock lower I was only showing 9psi on my Boost gage. With the 3.0 it shows 13.....maybe I'm missing something............perhaps the loss is stage 3 cams or are you saying "Dude, WTF, Spin that MOFO! ?

Your boost gauge is wrong then...Is an electronic gauge or mechanical? You should find a mechanical and verify.. I dont trust the electronic ones at all.

With a stock lower, 3" upper, 9:1 compression, you should be seeing 17-18 psi of boost. The fact you are running 17 degrees of timing implies 18 psi as thats a safe timing for that boost level.

Tony

[Mister L]

Its electric....I should put a mechanical on it and see what it reads. Thanks Tony!

[Scott McClure]

As Tony stated get a mechanical boost gauge on there and see where your at. Another thing is when you up the compression your boost also goes up. Marty I can't remember but are you running the 03-04 Cobra belt setup or did you just piece together your own 8-rib setup? Sounds like you had a horrible ride to the dyno that day. I've removed my wipers and got caught once on a day it wasn't supposed to rain and had a nice 45 minute ride home in a torrential downpour.

[Mister L]

I'm using the Billet Flow 90 and 100mm pulleys throughout and added the one that mounts near the top to get almost a full wrap on the blower pulley. I do still have the 03-4 Cobra lower braced pulley. I'm sure my wipers is a wiring or relay issue. The fuses check ok but then I normally won't drive in the rain so its not a big deal. I just like my stuff to work when you activate a switch!

I'll check into a mechanical boost gage and see what it displays.

[32VALVR]

I've had my K/B for about 2k miles now and now that its cooler out I was hoping the fan wouldn't run on high so much. Anyone have any success with a larger aftermarket radiator? Or if you've found another solution all input would be greatly appreciated.

[Scott McClure]

I run the Mishimoto radiator and my car never goes above 180-185 but honestly your stock one should be sufficient. As far as the fan you can have it come on at different times or different speeds via a tune. Did you get a custom tune or are you using the chip from KB?

[Linumup]

Originally Posted by Madmax305

What's up with the procharger guys? Why are they always so defensive and quick to talk smack? Are they feeling inadequate with what they have? They need to keep the smack talk in there own dedicated forums.

I never feel inadequate ! Or do i need to Smack Talk !

Just interested in seeing what the competition is up too ! Everytime you turn around there is an upgrade on the market .

[Scott McClure]

Originally Posted by Linumup

I never feel inadequate ! Or do i need to Smack Talk !

Just interested in seeing what the competition is up too ! Everytime you turn around there is an upgrade on the market .

Hey Procharger boy please stay out of the "REAL" power adder forum!