Eaton Swap..... - Page 11 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

nickster · 04-23-2009, 09:41 PM

started mine up today after loading the new tune,but things did not go well my gt pumps were wired in reverse so tank had to come back out,fixed that got tank back in after checking everything started up and run fine till i had to shut it down,my brand new 3.2" alt pully went to pieces,center hole in the pully is about an 1" big now,order a new 1 and sent the old 1 to the machineshopto be fixed,might get it back tomorrow fingers crossed

Mustang92 · 04-24-2009, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx

The guy at the dealer told me to just cut my plug and extend it. He said it was the same plug.

Actually they are reversed.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=92173

xXAzureMach1Xx · 04-24-2009, 06:04 PM

ok thanks, where did everyone get the EGR Delete cap that gos on the exhaust? made a plate but need the cap now.

nickster · 04-24-2009, 06:43 PM

cut tube off pinch it off ,then weld the tube where it is pinched

04 azure mach · 05-01-2009, 04:59 PM

where are you guys hooking up the water pump for the intercooler? also i read that you need to use the mach 1 gasket for the oil cooler but ive found that the mach and cobra have the same part #. needless to say i have a horrible leak. any ideas?

Scott McClure · 05-02-2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx

ok thanks, where did everyone get the EGR Delete cap that gos on the exhaust? made a plate but need the cap now.

Get the cap right from your local Ford dealer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 04 azure mach

where are you guys hooking up the water pump for the intercooler?

You mean the intercooler pump? I have mine wired so it comes on when the ignition is on.

04 azure mach · 05-02-2009, 12:08 PM

You mean the intercooler pump? I have mine wired so it comes on when the ignition is on.[/QUOTE]

ya. what did you wire it to though. i tried using the wiring for the egr crap that i deleted but couldnt find anything with enough voltage. keep blowing out fuses.

04 azure mach · 05-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx

ok thanks, where did everyone get the EGR Delete cap that gos on the exhaust? made a plate but need the cap now.

i ordered it from lethal performance.

nickster · 05-04-2009, 09:27 PM

got some bugs worked out today,tune still not there yet ,but he..l yaaa,3d gear at 50mph will shread rubber at will

Mustang92 · 05-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Mine is finally running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A81v-6Ugm8

Waiting on a friend to help me bleed the brakes tomorrow then it's just a few lose ends. I'm hoping to drive it to work Wednesday. I have a base tune in it so I can drive it but it's going to need to hit the dyno before I take it WOT and work out the idle (it's at 1k in the video) and turn off the EGR.

Bill

nickster · 05-04-2009, 09:47 PM

sounds great hope you get it there soon,can,t wait to get mine dialed in ,to see what it can really do

Mustang92 · 05-09-2009, 11:57 PM

I got to drive mine for the past few days and so far no problems. I still need to get it tuned, should be one night this coming week. Now I'm wrapping up the little things. Since I nearly got stuck in the rain without the shaker back on I made brackets and got it mounted.

What I basically did was remove the bottom pan since it would have to be cut up to really clear the blower pulley. I made a new lower pan from a thin piece of 12"x18" aluminum, then mounted some aluminum rails on it and some 1/8" x 1" aluminum flat stock mounting tabs for the sides and front. Once I got it right I cleaned it up, cut out a few holes to push air down on the Eaton and painted it black hammer tone. I'm not too worried about the rain that actually makes it into the shaker.

Reloaded · 05-11-2009, 12:40 PM

Wow, nicely done! Cool bracket you made up there. Looks great!

Mudd92 · 05-31-2009, 09:02 PM

I know this has probably been asking a million times, and may even be in this thread. But could somone give me a ballpark estimate of what it would cost to S/C a mach, and have a built motor to handle the boost and hp. Is about 9k close?

nickster · 05-31-2009, 10:06 PM

less than that if you buy a complete cobra motor,more if you want to go overboard

Mustang92 · 05-31-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudd92

I know this has probably been asking a million times, and may even be in this thread. But could somone give me a ballpark estimate of what it would cost to S/C a mach, and have a built motor to handle the boost and hp. Is about 9k close?

If you are budget minded, take your time, buy some parts used you can do the eaton swap and build an engine for $5-6k. However if you are paying labor $9k easy and that price you might just be better off looking for a stock Cobra engine and sell your stock Mach engine to offset the cost.

Bill

Mudd92 · 06-01-2009, 07:13 AM

No the only labor I have to actully pay is if I wanted build a motor, I know how it works, and I know enough to get me out of trouble or help someone. But I would pay the labor to have a pro. build me a motor. But I was thinking aswell that I could find a used Cobra motor and drop it in, then do a KB swap or such. I can do all of the myself, my only labor $'s like I said will be if I have to go build a motor. And If I go that route, from just glancly reading about Cobra's, the 04 motors are the best ones right, and it should be a direct swap into my car I assume, except I may need a wiring harness?

I know there a KB and Whipple thread, but If I got my hands on a good running cobra motor, what kind of prices is it to swap on a KB or whippe, another 2-3k?

Thank you!

xXAzureMach1Xx · 06-14-2009, 10:21 PM

I pick up a 98 Mark 8 motor and i was lookin over some of the parts and i noticed the IAC Valve looked the same as the cobra and the part number looks to be the same. The IAC Valve only has 9f715 on it and thats the same as the cobra so could anyone tell me if it will work?

xXAzureMach1Xx · 06-17-2009, 08:24 PM

anyone?

nickster · 06-18-2009, 10:54 AM

yes

Reloaded · 06-18-2009, 11:21 AM

9F715 is the "base" number. All that tells you is that it's an IAC valve. You need the numbers in front of and after it to verify it's the same part.

Should look like F78A 9F715 AB

That's the engineering number. With that a dealership can cross the number over to a Ford part number.

droptop mach · 07-27-2009, 08:43 PM

Great thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

xXAzureMach1Xx · 08-03-2009, 06:51 PM

Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

machgsxr · 08-03-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx

Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...5&postcount=16

xXAzureMach1Xx · 08-03-2009, 09:40 PM

Didnt see it in there but dose it matter which wire connects to which wire out of the two wires?

04-23-2009, 09:41 PM	#251
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... started mine up today after loading the new tune,but things did not go well my gt pumps were wired in reverse so tank had to come back out,fixed that got tank back in after checking everything started up and run fine till i had to shut it down,my brand new 3.2" alt pully went to pieces,center hole in the pully is about an 1" big now,order a new 1 and sent the old 1 to the machineshopto be fixed,might get it back tomorrow fingers crossed __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

04-24-2009, 06:04 PM	#253
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... ok thanks, where did everyone get the EGR Delete cap that gos on the exhaust? made a plate but need the cap now.

04-24-2009, 06:43 PM	#254
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... cut tube off pinch it off ,then weld the tube where it is pinched __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

05-01-2009, 04:59 PM	#255
04 azure mach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: christiana, TN Posts: 17	Re: Eaton Swap..... where are you guys hooking up the water pump for the intercooler? also i read that you need to use the mach 1 gasket for the oil cooler but ive found that the mach and cobra have the same part #. needless to say i have a horrible leak. any ideas?

05-02-2009, 12:08 PM	#257
04 azure mach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: christiana, TN Posts: 17	Re: Eaton Swap..... You mean the intercooler pump? I have mine wired so it comes on when the ignition is on.[/QUOTE] ya. what did you wire it to though. i tried using the wiring for the egr crap that i deleted but couldnt find anything with enough voltage. keep blowing out fuses.

05-04-2009, 09:27 PM	#259
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... got some bugs worked out today,tune still not there yet ,but he..l yaaa,3d gear at 50mph will shread rubber at will __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

05-04-2009, 09:39 PM	#260
Mustang92 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 238	Re: Eaton Swap..... Mine is finally running. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A81v-6Ugm8 Waiting on a friend to help me bleed the brakes tomorrow then it's just a few lose ends. I'm hoping to drive it to work Wednesday. I have a base tune in it so I can drive it but it's going to need to hit the dyno before I take it WOT and work out the idle (it's at 1k in the video) and turn off the EGR. Bill __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Comp Org - SOLD 1994 Mustang LS Swap - 11.40 @ 117.88 NA / 9.85 @ 134.74 N2O

05-04-2009, 09:47 PM	#261
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... sounds great hope you get it there soon,can,t wait to get mine dialed in ,to see what it can really do __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

05-09-2009, 11:57 PM	#262
Mustang92 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 238	Re: Eaton Swap..... I got to drive mine for the past few days and so far no problems. I still need to get it tuned, should be one night this coming week. Now I'm wrapping up the little things. Since I nearly got stuck in the rain without the shaker back on I made brackets and got it mounted. What I basically did was remove the bottom pan since it would have to be cut up to really clear the blower pulley. I made a new lower pan from a thin piece of 12"x18" aluminum, then mounted some aluminum rails on it and some 1/8" x 1" aluminum flat stock mounting tabs for the sides and front. Once I got it right I cleaned it up, cut out a few holes to push air down on the Eaton and painted it black hammer tone. I'm not too worried about the rain that actually makes it into the shaker. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Comp Org - SOLD 1994 Mustang LS Swap - 11.40 @ 117.88 NA / 9.85 @ 134.74 N2O

05-31-2009, 09:02 PM	#264
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Eaton Swap..... I know this has probably been asking a million times, and may even be in this thread. But could somone give me a ballpark estimate of what it would cost to S/C a mach, and have a built motor to handle the boost and hp. Is about 9k close? __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey

05-31-2009, 10:06 PM	#265
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... less than that if you buy a complete cobra motor,more if you want to go overboard __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

06-01-2009, 07:13 AM	#267
Mudd92 03 Mach Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,396	Re: Eaton Swap..... No the only labor I have to actully pay is if I wanted build a motor, I know how it works, and I know enough to get me out of trouble or help someone. But I would pay the labor to have a pro. build me a motor. But I was thinking aswell that I could find a used Cobra motor and drop it in, then do a KB swap or such. I can do all of the myself, my only labor $'s like I said will be if I have to go build a motor. And If I go that route, from just glancly reading about Cobra's, the 04 motors are the best ones right, and it should be a direct swap into my car I assume, except I may need a wiring harness? I know there a KB and Whipple thread, but If I got my hands on a good running cobra motor, what kind of prices is it to swap on a KB or whippe, another 2-3k? Thank you! __________________ -03 AB Mach 5spd Accufab TB, BBK LT's, BBK O/R X, Mac Catback, JLT RAI, 98 Cobra intake cams, EBC redstuff pads, slotted drilled rotors, 31 spline mosers, 31 spline cobra posi, 3" studs, FRPP 3:73, welded tubes, smoked tails. Eaton swap! 465hp,425tq @ 15deg and 3.4pulley @ 10lb. T56 magnum! - Tuned by Eric Brooks! Built motor coming soon -95 Chevy C1500 5.7 auto Stock, tow rig and DD. -Joey Last edited by Mudd92; 06-01-2009 at 07:18 AM. Reason: To many darn questions!

06-14-2009, 10:21 PM	#268
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... I pick up a 98 Mark 8 motor and i was lookin over some of the parts and i noticed the IAC Valve looked the same as the cobra and the part number looks to be the same. The IAC Valve only has 9f715 on it and thats the same as the cobra so could anyone tell me if it will work?

06-17-2009, 08:24 PM	#269
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... anyone?

06-18-2009, 10:54 AM	#270
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... yes __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

07-27-2009, 08:43 PM	#272
droptop mach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richardson Texas Posts: 287	Re: Eaton Swap..... Great thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

08-03-2009, 06:51 PM	#273
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

08-03-2009, 09:40 PM	#275
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... Didnt see it in there but dose it matter which wire connects to which wire out of the two wires?

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