Eaton Swap..... - Page 9 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

Reloaded · 02-11-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Too bad. Read it. Next thing you know you'll want someone to come over to your house and install it.

I DID have someone come over to the house to help install it... Seeing as how he had done 2 or 3 already.

Cost varies greatly depending on what kind of deal you can get. But from what I have seen, complete to mostly complete kits that people sell go anywhere from $2800 to $3500. Spend some time finding the parts used and I'm sure you could do it cheaper.

machgsxr · 02-11-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Too bad. Read it. Next thing you know you'll want someone to come over to your house and install it.

Good answer.

I was thinking of something to say.

What's with current/former mach owners with a shitty attitude. Getting all huffy puffy over the internet and start calling people a bunch of names. Ive seen several mach owners this past week acting like fools.

Reloaded · 02-11-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr

Good answer.

I was thinking of something to say.

What's with current/former mach owners with a shitty attitude. Getting all huffy puffy over the internet and start calling people a bunch of names. Ive seen several mach owners this past week acting like fools.

Sure it's only been the past week?

GAZ · 02-11-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang92

Nice numbers. Is that stock pulleys, unported eaton?

Bill

It's a unported Eaton with a 3.10 upper, stock lower, Billetflow idler/snubber pulley, C&L Intake, K&N conical 10" Filter, EGR Delete. Everything else is just as the list on here goes.

GAZ · 02-11-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr

I think he has an upper pulley, but regardless, that's the highest torque # ive seen so far.

Very nice Greg. Ill be calling to hear about the drive home.

Hi Archie, I havent got to drive it much. We trailered it to Denver to my tuner and just got home from trailering it back. Crapy weather here, not able to drive it yet. Just a little down in Denver last night. But Holy Sh** does it rip. The Torque numbers Go above 400ftlbs before I hit 2300rpm then climb to the max 445.1 at about 3800 rpm and stay above 400ftlbs till 5700rpm. Theres more to the story so give me a ring sometime. And again THANKS for all your help. I also have some parts left over that maybe someone may be interested in.

BADTGR · 02-11-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Too bad. Read it. Next thing you know you'll want someone to come over to your house and install it.

That would be my next post

Azure04Mach · 02-17-2009, 01:09 PM

I know there is alot of info in the thread. And i am seriously thinking about doing this before summer. I had a couple questions sorry if they were already addressed but i did not see them. First what kind of pressure are you running with a stock pulley. And is that safe for the bottom end indefinatly with the higher compression ratio of the mach engine? Also I have read where some people say the the cobra full tank and pumps are optional. And also are headers req. or can you keep stock? Just a couple questions thanks.

Reloaded · 02-17-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure04Mach

I know there is alot of info in the thread. And i am seriously thinking about doing this before summer. I had a couple questions sorry if they were already addressed but i did not see them. First what kind of pressure are you running with a stock pulley. And is that safe for the bottom end indefinatly with the higher compression ratio of the mach engine? Also I have read where some people say the the cobra full tank and pumps are optional. And also are headers req. or can you keep stock? Just a couple questions thanks.

A stock pulley should see right around 8psi.
With a proper tune, it's "safe". But of course, boosting an N/A engine without forged internals like this, there is always room for it to blow up.
As long as you run a pump that can handle the flow of fuel needed, then no the Cobra tank/pumps is not necessary. Some run the GT pump.
Headers are not required.

xXAzureMach1Xx · 02-18-2009, 06:24 PM

So you can run 1 GT pump with just the 8 psi or so and be fine?

Mustang92 · 02-19-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx

So you can run 1 GT pump with just the 8 psi or so and be fine?

I don't see why not. I ran the 255lph pump in my car with the P1SC kit that saw mostly about 8psi and the GT pump out flows that.

Bill

Ran624 · 02-21-2009, 01:26 AM

So i went to the dyno and this is what i got with the sae correction i like the A/F it looks good.. i had to photoshop the tq cuz it was to light..

nickster · 02-21-2009, 07:07 AM

good numbers,here is my setup my own pully bridgeon a mach timming cover

nickster · 02-21-2009, 07:12 AM

the mach alt attaches in reverse down by the little idler above the crank

nickster · 02-22-2009, 09:28 AM

will post some finished pics when it is all done

Mustang92 · 03-01-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nickster

good numbers,here is my setup my own pully bridgeon a mach timming cover

Nice. That's thinking outside the box.

ninety2pony · 03-02-2009, 08:48 AM

ok.. im finishing up the install on my eaton and i got a question.. if i run the iat2 sensor.. do i have to run the iat sensor in the cai? second.. wtf does the iat sensor look like and im assuming there is no wiring for it in our machs originally? little help thanks, id like to button this up today

nickster · 03-02-2009, 10:14 AM

answer is in the first few post of this thread somewhere

Reloaded · 03-02-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ninety2pony

ok.. im finishing up the install on my eaton and i got a question.. if i run the iat2 sensor.. do i have to run the iat sensor in the cai? second.. wtf does the iat sensor look like and im assuming there is no wiring for it in our machs originally? little help thanks, id like to button this up today

No you will not run the IAT in the intake pipe. There is no wiring for it if you run the IAT2. The IAT sensor looks like an engine coolant temp sensor basically. IAT2 looks much different.

ninety2pony · 03-02-2009, 08:12 PM

thanks

sirwrench1 · 03-18-2009, 12:52 AM

Ok I've read the installation but what happened to the knock sensors after the embossments were cutdown? Are the relocated? Just left off? If that's the case isn't that a bit risky? You've taken away a safety protection device and now running a major risk of detination. Or are you relying on a proper tune for protction?

machgsxr · 03-18-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sirwrench1

Ok I've read the installation but what happened to the knock sensors after the embossments were cutdown? Are the relocated? Just left off? If that's the case isn't that a bit risky? You've taken away a safety protection device and now running a major risk of detination. Or are you relying on a proper tune for protction?

The knock sensors MUST be turned off in the tune, otherwise it will throw a code. They are removed and left off. A proper tune is all im relying on. The cobras don't have knock sensors, so that's something to think about.

xXAzureMach1Xx · 03-31-2009, 12:35 AM

Have a question. Are the belt tensioner on the mach 1 timing cover, the same as the cobra?

ninety2pony · 03-31-2009, 08:48 PM

no.. the mach is a one bolt and the cobra is a 3 bolt.

nickster · 03-31-2009, 08:51 PM

the cover is a 3 bolt or bouth cover and bridge

xXAzureMach1Xx · 04-01-2009, 11:20 PM

Can some one tell me what three radiator hose is need for the swap? i know the part numbers but i need to know where they go to. One is the upper radaitor to cross over tube but dont know the other two

02-17-2009, 01:09 PM	#207
Azure04Mach Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 63	Re: Eaton Swap..... I know there is alot of info in the thread. And i am seriously thinking about doing this before summer. I had a couple questions sorry if they were already addressed but i did not see them. First what kind of pressure are you running with a stock pulley. And is that safe for the bottom end indefinatly with the higher compression ratio of the mach engine? Also I have read where some people say the the cobra full tank and pumps are optional. And also are headers req. or can you keep stock? Just a couple questions thanks. __________________ 2004 Mach 1: Azure Blue, 5speed, IUP, FR500 DD Rear Wheels , Moser 31 Spline Axles, Ford Racing 4.10, K&N, Diablo Sport Tuner, MGW Shifter 1966 Mustang Coupe: 347 Stroker, C4, Crowler Cam 2000 ZX2 S/R: Daily Driver

02-18-2009, 06:24 PM	#209
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... So you can run 1 GT pump with just the 8 psi or so and be fine?

02-21-2009, 01:26 AM	#211
Ran624 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sandiego Califorina Posts: 56	Re: Eaton Swap..... So i went to the dyno and this is what i got with the sae correction i like the A/F it looks good.. i had to photoshop the tq cuz it was to light.. Attached Thumbnails

02-21-2009, 07:07 AM	#212
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... good numbers,here is my setup my own pully bridgeon a mach timming cover Attached Thumbnails __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

02-21-2009, 07:12 AM	#213
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... the mach alt attaches in reverse down by the little idler above the crank __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

02-22-2009, 09:28 AM	#214
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... will post some finished pics when it is all done __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

03-02-2009, 08:48 AM	#216
ninety2pony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 316	Re: Eaton Swap..... ok.. im finishing up the install on my eaton and i got a question.. if i run the iat2 sensor.. do i have to run the iat sensor in the cai? second.. wtf does the iat sensor look like and im assuming there is no wiring for it in our machs originally? little help thanks, id like to button this up today

03-02-2009, 10:14 AM	#217
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... answer is in the first few post of this thread somewhere __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

03-02-2009, 08:12 PM	#219
ninety2pony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 316	Re: Eaton Swap..... thanks

03-18-2009, 12:52 AM	#220
sirwrench1 New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Warren,Ohio Posts: 1	Re: Eaton Swap..... Ok I've read the installation but what happened to the knock sensors after the embossments were cutdown? Are the relocated? Just left off? If that's the case isn't that a bit risky? You've taken away a safety protection device and now running a major risk of detination. Or are you relying on a proper tune for protction?

03-31-2009, 12:35 AM	#222
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... Have a question. Are the belt tensioner on the mach 1 timing cover, the same as the cobra?

03-31-2009, 08:48 PM	#223
ninety2pony Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 316	Re: Eaton Swap..... no.. the mach is a one bolt and the cobra is a 3 bolt.

03-31-2009, 08:51 PM	#224
nickster certified MACH 1 nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 1,520	Re: Eaton Swap..... the cover is a 3 bolt or bouth cover and bridge __________________ shm stage 2 cams,dynomax longtubes,2 3/4 h pipe homemade,excal2,wideband commander,proracers package,60#injectors,2400 mas air,eaton,forged motor,4# metco ring,1 of a kind pully bridge,and great #s on a stock eaton 476.88rwhp-451.74rwtq

04-01-2009, 11:20 PM	#225
xXAzureMach1Xx 04 Mach 1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 272	Re: Eaton Swap..... Can some one tell me what three radiator hose is need for the swap? i know the part numbers but i need to know where they go to. One is the upper radaitor to cross over tube but dont know the other two

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