mass state inspection - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

indianpeter · 07-18-2011, 05:57 PM

gotta interesting issue here...
i had my car dyno tuned last fall (Dez Racing in seekonk mass)made a bunch of timing + fuel trim changes....
now i go for my annual state inspection... no go

.
state says "catalyst monitor +catalyst heater mointor not supported"...
but car has BBK cats + o2 sensors, never had my check engine light go on...
so here's my question... the car was tuned with an older predator..if i suck the perfomance tune out, put the "stock" tune back in , get a sticker, and then re-install the performance tune.. will i loose any of the fuel mixture + timimg settings, or does the predator retain that stuff?

Lonestar · 07-18-2011, 07:55 PM

If its the tune in the predator you will not loose it. All you will do is reload the tune after the emission test. When you reload the performance tune your setting will be restored. I have to keep my car registered in Texas as it will never pass emissions in Colorado unless I reinstall the factory h as my Pypes catted X will get close to a pass with a custom tune.

LS

BluMach03 · 07-19-2011, 05:36 AM

yea, just load your stock tune..that should work. fine

MustangJoe · 07-20-2011, 09:01 AM

After you reload the stock tune, you will need to drive the car for about 100 miles to make those monitors ready. I go through the same thing every year with my f150 with a tuner. If you go immediately it wont pass because the monitors wont be ready.

try846 · 07-20-2011, 02:12 PM

Does this happen with the older tuners only, I was ok with my SCT X3.

shame302 · 07-22-2011, 02:42 PM

Ditto. And i have my rear O2s shut off.

jpilone · 07-25-2011, 10:47 AM

Ahh you whacky states with your state inspections! Thank god FL did away with that ~1999!

indianpeter · 07-25-2011, 04:28 PM

well as the saying goes "we got good news, and we got bad news"....
re-installed my stock tune, put about 90 miles on the car , and sure as sh!t, it now passes the "Massachusetts Butt Sniff Test".....gotta sticker.

BUT....

i am a dummy

, and did not read/comprehend the (in my defense) poorly written predator operator's manual, which if read carefully, states that you must FIRST back your performance tune up on your PC ...BEFORE you re-install the stocker...and, of course, i assumed that the predator would retain the performance tune to re-load after sticker installed..
WRONG!!!

so i have a call into Dez Racing, who did the dyno work.. hopefully he has a copy of my tune he can e-mail me..........

I MISS CARBURETORS AND POINTS!!!

311-420 · 07-26-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianpeter

well as the saying goes "we got good news, and we got bad news"....
re-installed my stock tune, put about 90 miles on the car , and sure as sh!t, it now passes the "Massachusetts Butt Sniff Test".....gotta sticker.

BUT....

i am a dummy

, and did not read/comprehend the (in my defense) poorly written predator operator's manual, which if read carefully, states that you must FIRST back your performance tune up on your PC ...BEFORE you re-install the stocker...and, of course, i assumed that the predator would retain the performance tune to re-load after sticker installed..
WRONG!!!

so i have a call into Dez Racing, who did the dyno work.. hopefully he has a copy of my tune he can e-mail me..........

I MISS CARBURETORS AND POINTS!!!

Never heard of that happening before. What does Dez say about it?

indianpeter · 07-27-2011, 09:53 AM

well, i spoke to Devon at Diablosport and he confirms what i stated in the last post, that reloading the "stock" tune erases any"custom" tune in the predator, and sent me instructions on how to upload/download my custom tune to and from my PC....

i haven't been able to get Dez on the phone yet, he is always super busy...i am hoping he will just email me the last tune he did on my car, and then i can download it to the predator, and then into the Mach...

kinda surprised that no one else here had run into this..

this is the exact situation i was trying to avoid..

of course, the possibility that i f'd something up certainly exsists, too...

oh well, at least i'll be an "expert" (Ha!) by the time i'm done here.. cause i figure i'm gonna have to do this once a year for my sticker!!

311-420 · 07-27-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indianpeter

well, i spoke to Devon at Diablosport and he confirms what i stated in the last post, that reloading the "stock" tune erases any"custom" tune in the predator, and sent me instructions on how to upload/download my custom tune to and from my PC....

i haven't been able to get Dez on the phone yet, he is always super busy...i am hoping he will just email me the last tune he did on my car, and then i can download it to the predator, and then into the Mach...

kinda surprised that no one else here had run into this..

this is the exact situation i was trying to avoid..

of course, the possibility that i f'd something up certainly exsists, too...

oh well, at least i'll be an "expert" (Ha!) by the time i'm done here.. cause i figure i'm gonna have to do this once a year for my sticker!!

That's just plain stupid. It can hold a stock tune but not a custom tune. Wtf....

BluMach03 · 07-27-2011, 07:00 PM

i just had mike change my tune for a sticker. Mass sucks with this ****

indianpeter · 07-27-2011, 07:48 PM

blumach03...
did you have the predator performance tune or a custom?

BluMach03 · 07-29-2011, 05:22 AM

custom

indianpeter · 08-05-2011, 08:21 AM

final update on this...
bought the kit from Diablo to support using the predator with a PC
(45 bucks),
Dez emailed me my last tune (thanks Mike!!!),went thru the 5 pages

of instructions from Diablo...
bottom line, got the custom tune back in the car, and saved it on my PC so i can do the same BS next july when the car needs a sticker again...

hey anybody running an 03 with 4:10's, long tubes + magnaflow, cold air kit + spacer .. if you have a predator, a PC, and some patience i can email you a nice tune!!

07-18-2011, 05:57 PM	#1
indianpeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: taxachusetts Posts: 93	mass state inspection gotta interesting issue here... i had my car dyno tuned last fall (Dez Racing in seekonk mass)made a bunch of timing + fuel trim changes.... now i go for my annual state inspection... no go. state says "catalyst monitor +catalyst heater mointor not supported"... but car has BBK cats + o2 sensors, never had my check engine light go on... so here's my question... the car was tuned with an older predator..if i suck the perfomance tune out, put the "stock" tune back in , get a sticker, and then re-install the performance tune.. will i loose any of the fuel mixture + timimg settings, or does the predator retain that stuff? __________________ "guns kill people the same way pens write stupid laws"

07-18-2011, 07:55 PM	#2
Lonestar Guest Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA Posts: 347	Re: mass state inspection If its the tune in the predator you will not loose it. All you will do is reload the tune after the emission test. When you reload the performance tune your setting will be restored. I have to keep my car registered in Texas as it will never pass emissions in Colorado unless I reinstall the factory h as my Pypes catted X will get close to a pass with a custom tune. LS

07-19-2011, 05:36 AM	#3
BluMach03 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grafton, Ma Posts: 269	Re: mass state inspection yea, just load your stock tune..that should work. fine __________________ JLT ROY's 3/4 spacer full exhaust (BBK/Bassani) faceplated TKO 31 spl diff. strange axles 4.56's Tuned By: Dez Racing

07-20-2011, 09:01 AM	#4
MustangJoe Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: West Springfield,MA Posts: 17	Re: mass state inspection After you reload the stock tune, you will need to drive the car for about 100 miles to make those monitors ready. I go through the same thing every year with my f150 with a tuner. If you go immediately it wont pass because the monitors wont be ready.

07-20-2011, 02:12 PM	#5
try846 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 414	Re: mass state inspection Does this happen with the older tuners only, I was ok with my SCT X3. __________________ 2003 Azure Mach1 Fully forged shortblock w/ ARP hardware, JAN 05 heads, 8 rib setup IW 10% OD CS, RR 2.90 Pulley, Thump RR tensioner with KB 2.1 @18psi ,Accufab TB;AFCO dual pass HE,SCT X3,FAST 02 meter, Full JBA exhaust,Centerforce DFX Cl, Fidanza al FW, FRPP al. DS, FRPP traction lok rear w/FRPP 3.73 gears and FRPP 31 spline axles, FRPP rear axle girdle, UPR coil overs with tubular K member, Wilwood 6 pis. calipers w/ 2 piece , 03 cobra bumper. DYNO 550/550 16PSI

07-22-2011, 02:42 PM	#6
shame302 Halfbreed GT/Mach1/Cobra Join Date: May 2006 Location: I Love Your Mom, Massachusettes Posts: 1,128	Re: mass state inspection Ditto. And i have my rear O2s shut off. __________________ Clicky >>>Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...

07-25-2011, 10:47 AM	#7
jpilone Uncertified Gynocologist Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 738	Re: mass state inspection Ahh you whacky states with your state inspections! Thank god FL did away with that ~1999! __________________ '04 Mach 1/5-Speed/CO SOLD 10/31/15! '16 S550 GT 5.0 Traded 7/28/16 '16 Shelby GT350 Track Package/White/Blue Stripes!

07-25-2011, 04:28 PM	#8
indianpeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: taxachusetts Posts: 93	Re: mass state inspection well as the saying goes "we got good news, and we got bad news".... re-installed my stock tune, put about 90 miles on the car , and sure as sh!t, it now passes the "Massachusetts Butt Sniff Test".....gotta sticker. BUT.... i am a dummy, and did not read/comprehend the (in my defense) poorly written predator operator's manual, which if read carefully, states that you must FIRST back your performance tune up on your PC ...BEFORE you re-install the stocker...and, of course, i assumed that the predator would retain the performance tune to re-load after sticker installed.. WRONG!!! so i have a call into Dez Racing, who did the dyno work.. hopefully he has a copy of my tune he can e-mail me.......... I MISS CARBURETORS AND POINTS!!! __________________ "guns kill people the same way pens write stupid laws"

07-27-2011, 09:53 AM	#10
indianpeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: taxachusetts Posts: 93	Re: mass state inspection well, i spoke to Devon at Diablosport and he confirms what i stated in the last post, that reloading the "stock" tune erases any"custom" tune in the predator, and sent me instructions on how to upload/download my custom tune to and from my PC.... i haven't been able to get Dez on the phone yet, he is always super busy...i am hoping he will just email me the last tune he did on my car, and then i can download it to the predator, and then into the Mach... kinda surprised that no one else here had run into this.. this is the exact situation i was trying to avoid.. of course, the possibility that i f'd something up certainly exsists, too... oh well, at least i'll be an "expert" (Ha!) by the time i'm done here.. cause i figure i'm gonna have to do this once a year for my sticker!! __________________ "guns kill people the same way pens write stupid laws"

07-27-2011, 07:00 PM	#12
BluMach03 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grafton, Ma Posts: 269	Re: mass state inspection i just had mike change my tune for a sticker. Mass sucks with this **** __________________ JLT ROY's 3/4 spacer full exhaust (BBK/Bassani) faceplated TKO 31 spl diff. strange axles 4.56's Tuned By: Dez Racing

07-27-2011, 07:48 PM	#13
indianpeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: taxachusetts Posts: 93	Re: mass state inspection blumach03... did you have the predator performance tune or a custom? __________________ "guns kill people the same way pens write stupid laws"

07-29-2011, 05:22 AM	#14
BluMach03 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grafton, Ma Posts: 269	Re: mass state inspection custom __________________ JLT ROY's 3/4 spacer full exhaust (BBK/Bassani) faceplated TKO 31 spl diff. strange axles 4.56's Tuned By: Dez Racing

08-05-2011, 08:21 AM	#15
indianpeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: taxachusetts Posts: 93	Re: mass state inspection final update on this... bought the kit from Diablo to support using the predator with a PC (45 bucks), Dez emailed me my last tune (thanks Mike!!!),went thru the 5 pages of instructions from Diablo... bottom line, got the custom tune back in the car, and saved it on my PC so i can do the same BS next july when the car needs a sticker again... hey anybody running an 03 with 4:10's, long tubes + magnaflow, cold air kit + spacer .. if you have a predator, a PC, and some patience i can email you a nice tune!! __________________ "guns kill people the same way pens write stupid laws"

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