Procharger Questions - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

blk03shkr · 03-29-2012, 10:27 AM

I am planning on buying a p1sc tuner kit in the next couple weeks. Already have a sct chip so i assume all ill need to buy on my own is the fuel upgrades. What do you guys recommend? What size injectors will i need and do i need to modifiy the stock fuel pump? I hope to make 450 RWHP out of it. Currently have OR-x pipe and magnaflow catback.

Anything else i am missing that i need to pick up before installing?

Also, on the SCT chip, will a new tuner be able to overwrite the current tune that is on it? The previous tuner moved out of state, not sure if there password protected or anything?

Thanks.

Tommy@suttonhp · 03-29-2012, 11:25 AM

Ford Racing 47lbs injectors and a focus pump and a boost a pump will be plenty for that but if you plan on going in the future I would get 60lbs injectors now and 03-04 cobra pumps and tank.

blk03shkr · 03-29-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy@suttonhp

Ford Racing 47lbs injectors and a focus pump and a boost a pump will be plenty for that but if you plan on going in the future I would get 60lbs injectors now and 03-04 cobra pumps and tank.

Thats kind of what i figured. What BAP? Where is a good place to get the pump and BAP? Any model numbers i should look for either? Is a regular focus fuel pump the same as a SVT?

Thanks.

ASH302 · 03-29-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blk03shkr

Thats kind of what i figured. What BAP? Where is a good place to get the pump and BAP? Any model numbers i should look for either? Is a regular focus fuel pump the same as a SVT?

Thanks.

Kenne Bell is the only one that sells the Boost-A-Pump
20amp and 40amp
20 is for single fuel pump
40 is for dual fuel pumps

i'll see if i can find the part number
i know it been talked about on here, maybe someone can chime in or put a link
to be honest 39lb injectors will work, but like what was said above, if you plan on going more in the future, go ahead and do the 60lb injectors, save you money in the long run

ASh

ASH302 · 03-29-2012, 11:49 AM

also with those HP numbers you don't have to have a BAP
you could do dual 03/04 cobra fuel pumps and that will handle 500rwhp on a loaded dyno

ASh

01cobra · 03-29-2012, 09:06 PM

Any tuner that uses Sct software should be able to overwrite the current tunes on your chip. I bought a used 4 bank chip and my tuner was able to overwrite it.

I went with an Aviator pump, 42lb injectors and a 20 amp bap.
Like others said an Svt focus pump will work also.

AzureMach03 · 03-29-2012, 09:22 PM

I am running the 40 amp BAP with a Single Ford GT supercar pump. My car makes 480whp with 42lb injectors. The 40 amp pump will work with a GT supercar pump and it is the BAP recommended for it as well. I have been told from kenne bell that a Ford GT pump and the 40 amp BAP will support around 550whp.

blk03shkr · 03-30-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AzureMach03

I am running the 40 amp BAP with a Single Ford GT supercar pump. My car makes 480whp with 42lb injectors. The 40 amp pump will work with a GT supercar pump and it is the BAP recommended for it as well. I have been told from kenne bell that a Ford GT pump and the 40 amp BAP will support around 550whp.

How about a gt40 pump and no BAP for now for 450rwhp? I could always add the bap later if i go higher right? Those pumps cost what? About $100 from the dealership?

ASH302 · 03-30-2012, 09:00 AM

you should be fine with just adding the a highflow fuel pump, and not having to have the BAP

ASh

SHAKERRR · 04-01-2012, 06:45 PM

See my sig.

blk03shkr · 04-02-2012, 04:23 PM

Ok, think i am going with the gt40 pump, ordered it over the weekend.

How about the maf? Diablo mafia or a new sensor all together? Im only looking for 450 rwhp, im guessing the stock one will peg out quickly?

AzureMach03 · 04-02-2012, 04:27 PM

yeah I would just get another one. And go ahead and get a BAP I am not sure a single GT pump will handle 450whp

SHAKERRR · 06-01-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blk03shkr

Ok, think i am going with the gt40 pump, ordered it over the weekend.

How about the maf? Diablo mafia or a new sensor all together? Im only looking for 450 rwhp, im guessing the stock one will peg out quickly?

Diablo MAF works great. It tricks your stock MAF reading.

ASH302 · 06-02-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blk03shkr

Ok, think i am going with the gt40 pump, ordered it over the weekend.

How about the maf? Diablo mafia or a new sensor all together? Im only looking for 450 rwhp, im guessing the stock one will peg out quickly?

a MAFia will work fine on the stock MAF, if you want a different MAF get a Lightning MAF with the MAFia and call it a day

ASh

wahl954 · 06-02-2012, 02:49 PM

Yes the mafia will work with the stock MAF, dont need to spend the extra money on a lighting, the stock one will work. I have the 60lb injectors and a svt focus fuel pump, no BAP. I have very similar mods as you do and made 440+rwhp, with a 4 inch pully.

ASH302 · 06-02-2012, 03:13 PM

yeap for his power goals he going to be making right now. doesn't need a BAP, i rather throw two fuel pumps in there than have a BAP hooked up

ASh

blk03shkr · 06-02-2012, 04:05 PM

just went with stock maf and a mafia....gt40 fuel pump and a bap for insurance. Make 438rwhp on a new clutch and conservative tune

ASH302 · 06-02-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blk03shkr

just went with stock maf and a mafia....gt40 fuel pump and a bap for insurance. Make 438rwhp on a new clutch and conservative tune

congrates man, whats your duty cycle looking like, i'm sure just the fuel pump would have worked out, but can't go wrong with having the insurance and as long as its in your budget than i say its a good thing, congrates
how much boost you running and was that on a dyno jet or loaded dyno?

ASh

blk03shkr · 06-03-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by txmach302

congrates man, whats your duty cycle looking like, i'm sure just the fuel pump would have worked out, but can't go wrong with having the insurance and as long as its in your budget than i say its a good thing, congrates
how much boost you running and was that on a dyno jet or loaded dyno?

ASh

Not sure about the duty cycle they didn't mention it so I'm guessing its good. Made 9 psi w/ a 3.8 pulley on a dynojet

ASH302 · 06-03-2012, 10:47 AM

kewl man, well enjoy it

ASh

Chances50 · 06-03-2012, 01:31 PM

A single Stryker 340 pump and 60# injectors. No need for a BAP, cobra hat or tank. Takes some modification to make the pump fit in the stock hat but it's worth it.

I would get an SCT BA5000 or HPX slot style Maf.

With these parts you will be good for 600rwhp if you ever plan to get there and the pump setup is cheaper than a Focus pump/BAP setup.

With all the new pumps out there is no way I would waste money on a cobra fuel system or any of the BAP's. A Stryker 340 is $150 and it will handle more power by its self than most of those will with a BAP.

03-29-2012, 10:27 AM	#1
blk03shkr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Jasper, GA Posts: 277	Procharger Questions I am planning on buying a p1sc tuner kit in the next couple weeks. Already have a sct chip so i assume all ill need to buy on my own is the fuel upgrades. What do you guys recommend? What size injectors will i need and do i need to modifiy the stock fuel pump? I hope to make 450 RWHP out of it. Currently have OR-x pipe and magnaflow catback. Anything else i am missing that i need to pick up before installing? Also, on the SCT chip, will a new tuner be able to overwrite the current tune that is on it? The previous tuner moved out of state, not sure if there password protected or anything? Thanks.

03-29-2012, 11:25 AM	#2
Tommy@suttonhp Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Schererville, IN Posts: 22	Re: Procharger Questions Ford Racing 47lbs injectors and a focus pump and a boost a pump will be plenty for that but if you plan on going in the future I would get 60lbs injectors now and 03-04 cobra pumps and tank.

03-29-2012, 11:49 AM	#5
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Procharger Questions also with those HP numbers you don't have to have a BAP you could do dual 03/04 cobra fuel pumps and that will handle 500rwhp on a loaded dyno ASh __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

03-29-2012, 09:06 PM	#6
01cobra Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chester County, PA Posts: 330	Re: Procharger Questions Any tuner that uses Sct software should be able to overwrite the current tunes on your chip. I bought a used 4 bank chip and my tuner was able to overwrite it. I went with an Aviator pump, 42lb injectors and a 20 amp bap. Like others said an Svt focus pump will work also. __________________ 2003 Cobra

03-29-2012, 09:22 PM	#7
AzureMach03 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,117	Re: Procharger Questions I am running the 40 amp BAP with a Single Ford GT supercar pump. My car makes 480whp with 42lb injectors. The 40 amp pump will work with a GT supercar pump and it is the BAP recommended for it as well. I have been told from kenne bell that a Ford GT pump and the 40 amp BAP will support around 550whp. __________________ 1999 Cobra Vert Built and Novi Blown :rockon: 03 Black Mach- Sold 00 Lightning- Sold 03 AB Mach- Sold

03-30-2012, 09:00 AM	#9
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Procharger Questions you should be fine with just adding the a highflow fuel pump, and not having to have the BAP ASh __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

04-01-2012, 06:45 PM	#10
SHAKERRR Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 446	Re: Procharger Questions See my sig. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 (Black) ATI PSC1 9# 3-Core Intercooler 62mm BBK TB K&N Airfilter FR 42# Injectors Focus Fuel Pump KB Boost-A-Pump Full SS Bassani Ex. Diablo MAFia Steeda TriAx Shifter Stewart Gauges AEM Air/Fuel Gauge Eibach Sportlines MM Panhardbar SLP Linelock AFS 17x10.5 Mach1 315/35/17 BFG Drag Radials Stock Internals Conservative Tune 438hp/405tq

04-02-2012, 04:23 PM	#11
blk03shkr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Jasper, GA Posts: 277	Re: Procharger Questions Ok, think i am going with the gt40 pump, ordered it over the weekend. How about the maf? Diablo mafia or a new sensor all together? Im only looking for 450 rwhp, im guessing the stock one will peg out quickly?

04-02-2012, 04:27 PM	#12
AzureMach03 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,117	Re: Procharger Questions yeah I would just get another one. And go ahead and get a BAP I am not sure a single GT pump will handle 450whp __________________ 1999 Cobra Vert Built and Novi Blown :rockon: 03 Black Mach- Sold 00 Lightning- Sold 03 AB Mach- Sold

06-02-2012, 02:49 PM	#15
wahl954 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Plantation, FL Posts: 55	Re: Procharger Questions Yes the mafia will work with the stock MAF, dont need to spend the extra money on a lighting, the stock one will work. I have the 60lb injectors and a svt focus fuel pump, no BAP. I have very similar mods as you do and made 440+rwhp, with a 4 inch pully. __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed. P1SC Procharger w/4 inch pully Magnaflow catback exhaust O/R x-pipe 3/8th intake spacer Diablo tuned. 4.10 ford gears Ford Racing aluminum D/Shaft MGW short throw shifter SLP line lock Ford 60lb injectors UPR upper and lower control arms MM full length subframe connectors 275/40/17 Nitto 555R 444rwhp and 403rwtq

06-02-2012, 03:13 PM	#16
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Procharger Questions yeap for his power goals he going to be making right now. doesn't need a BAP, i rather throw two fuel pumps in there than have a BAP hooked up ASh __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

06-02-2012, 04:05 PM	#17
blk03shkr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Jasper, GA Posts: 277	Re: Procharger Questions just went with stock maf and a mafia....gt40 fuel pump and a bap for insurance. Make 438rwhp on a new clutch and conservative tune

06-03-2012, 10:47 AM	#20
ASH302 Soldier for Christ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Willis, TX at The Daddy ASh Ranch Posts: 30,596	Re: Procharger Questions kewl man, well enjoy it ASh __________________ 2001 lazer red v6 Mustang coupe sold in Aug 2006 2004 screaming yellow 5.0 sc Mach 1 sold in Oct 2012 2013 grey 6 speed coupe GT Mustang Sold in Feb 2014 2013 RED Dodge Charger R/T Sold Nov 2014 2002 custom Blue 02 Auto Trans AM Sold June 2015 1998 Cobra Black Sold summer 2016 Current 2009 Ford F350 FX4 March 2017 (work truck) 2003 OW 5.0 Mach 1 Aug 2020 ASh

06-03-2012, 01:31 PM	#21
Chances50 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Haskell, Ok Posts: 1,325	Re: Procharger Questions A single Stryker 340 pump and 60# injectors. No need for a BAP, cobra hat or tank. Takes some modification to make the pump fit in the stock hat but it's worth it. I would get an SCT BA5000 or HPX slot style Maf. With these parts you will be good for 600rwhp if you ever plan to get there and the pump setup is cheaper than a Focus pump/BAP setup. With all the new pumps out there is no way I would waste money on a cobra fuel system or any of the BAP's. A Stryker 340 is $150 and it will handle more power by its self than most of those will with a BAP. __________________ 03 OW 5 speed 84k miles very clean. For sale!

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