T56 magnum swap - Page 2 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

03machstock · 09-19-2014, 12:06 PM

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03machstock · 10-21-2014, 03:18 PM

Bump, can anyone confirm post 18? Just wondering how you guys ended up doing yours.

littlemags · 10-21-2014, 03:26 PM

just call DD performance in wixom michigan....they sell COMPLETE swaps. Donnie is a great guy and will steer you in the right direction for sure.

PeteEpple · 10-22-2014, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 03machstock

Can anyone validate the info i found below as far as what all is needed to swap from the 3650 to the t56 magnum?

You will need the following:

1. T56 Magnum..either the close ratio version 2.66 1st .63 6th or the wide ratio which has a 2.97 1st and a .50 6th

2. Bell Housing. An alulminum one runs as much as a QuickTime Steel bell so go QuickTime (plus, it's SFI rated)

3. New clutch disc. Assuming your pressure plate and flywheel are in good shape, then all you need is a 26 spline clutch disc. The 3650 has a 10 spline input, the Magnum is 26.

4. Modify your cross member. If you have a GT all you have to do is slide your current cross member rearward in the slotted mounts to pickup the tail housing of the magnum. If you have a Cobra, you will need to modify it slightly.

5. Shorten your current driveshaft 2".

6. The bolt pattern on the shifter for the 3650 is metric where the Magnum uses 3/8" bolts. You can either buy a new shifter handle or drill out the bolt holes on your factory handle to 3/8" and call it done.

That's basically all you need. All your wiring from the 3650 harness will transfer straight over to the Magnum. The slip yoke on your driveshaft will fit the output shaft of the Magnum but like I said above, you will have to have the D/S shortened 2".

I had/have the 2.97 Magnum. you will need a bell housing. if you're making this big a change, you may as well do a new clutch too. If you don't want to, you do need a 26-spline disc. D&D sells just the disc.

I was looking at pictures of my Mach and it looks like the stock crossmember, but i can't remember if we modified it

The driveshaft does need to be shortened. When we did it we just ordered a new custom shaft.

All the harnesses from the 3650 plug right in. The only extra thing you'll need to wire up is the solenoid for the reverse lockout. You don't have to wire it up, but it's much harder to put it into reverse without it. I didn't wire it cause i was racing the car a lot and didn't want it to be easy to accidentally put it in reverse.

I used an aftermarket shifter handle so that wasn't an issue.

Let me know if i can help with anything else.

mach1z · 10-22-2014, 11:15 AM

Contact me if you need a bell housing. I have a spare one

ab_mach1 · 10-22-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemags

just call DD performance in wixom michigan....they sell COMPLETE swaps. Donnie is a great guy and will steer you in the right direction for sure.

I checked out their site. I don't think that's a bad prices at all. I don't know anyone who has the clutch they reccomend. I'm assuming that would be fine for stock or near stock power..? Is there anything you need on the engine side as far as being able to use the 26 spline tranny input shaft? Offering a complete kit like this is the way I like to go personally.

Uloset · 10-22-2014, 01:14 PM

Funny, I remember being probably the 1st person around here to notice these trans came in a configuration for our cars way back in the summer of 09. Nice to see a decent amount of people are going with this setup. For me the options of a 2.97 1st combined with a .5th 6th alone made it a much better choice than a standard T56 for a N/A car.

03machstock · 10-22-2014, 03:26 PM

Thanks guys, I am buying a barely used 26 spline clutch off of a buddy and was hoping that all I posted was all I needed, looks like I should be able to swing this come winter. I'm pumped that I'm going to be able to go to the track again and start collecting for an eaton swap.

03machstock · 05-07-2015, 10:49 AM

Does anyone know what the deal with a quicktime bellhousing for the t56? It says on jegs site that it won't work with the magnum?

DSG2003Mach1 · 05-07-2015, 11:09 AM

I have a quicktime bell housing on my T56 magnum without issue. The T56 and T56 magnum bellhousing setup is exactly the same

03machstock · 05-07-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DSG2003Mach1

I have a quicktime bell housing on my T56 magnum without issue. The T56 and T56 magnum bellhousing setup is exactly the same

Ok good deal, I think the one I was looking at was rm 8080 I don't why it said that. Thanks

09-19-2014, 12:06 PM	#26
03machstock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 323	Re: T56 magnum swap To the top. __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Azure Blue-Manual- Intake/exhaust/ 01 cobra cams/ NX wet kit- 351 rwhp 350 rwtq N/A- 460 rwhp 557 rwtq 100 shot.

10-21-2014, 03:18 PM	#27
03machstock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 323	Re: T56 magnum swap Bump, can anyone confirm post 18? Just wondering how you guys ended up doing yours. __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Azure Blue-Manual- Intake/exhaust/ 01 cobra cams/ NX wet kit- 351 rwhp 350 rwtq N/A- 460 rwhp 557 rwtq 100 shot.

10-21-2014, 03:26 PM	#28
littlemags finally paid for Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ypsilanti Twp, Mi Posts: 4,077	Re: T56 magnum swap just call DD performance in wixom michigan....they sell COMPLETE swaps. Donnie is a great guy and will steer you in the right direction for sure. __________________ 2004 mach 1-turbo build in progress.. Fast xfi 2.0 OLD combo- 826rwhp/720 trq -100 shot NX 9.13@154 on 100 shot NEW- in progress...

10-22-2014, 11:15 AM	#30
mach1z Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodstock,GA Posts: 544	Re: T56 magnum swap Contact me if you need a bell housing. I have a spare one __________________ I/E, 4:10's, tune

10-22-2014, 01:14 PM	#32
Uloset Fastest Mach 1 Somewhere Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Trenton, NJ Posts: 1,302	Re: T56 magnum swap Funny, I remember being probably the 1st person around here to notice these trans came in a configuration for our cars way back in the summer of 09. Nice to see a decent amount of people are going with this setup. For me the options of a 2.97 1st combined with a .5th 6th alone made it a much better choice than a standard T56 for a N/A car. __________________ "It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them" I have a problem every time I pull up to some ricer a strange buzzing noise comes from behind me, any clue what it could be?

10-22-2014, 03:26 PM	#33
03machstock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 323	Re: T56 magnum swap Thanks guys, I am buying a barely used 26 spline clutch off of a buddy and was hoping that all I posted was all I needed, looks like I should be able to swing this come winter. I'm pumped that I'm going to be able to go to the track again and start collecting for an eaton swap. __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Azure Blue-Manual- Intake/exhaust/ 01 cobra cams/ NX wet kit- 351 rwhp 350 rwtq N/A- 460 rwhp 557 rwtq 100 shot.

05-07-2015, 10:49 AM	#34
03machstock Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 323	Re: T56 magnum swap Does anyone know what the deal with a quicktime bellhousing for the t56? It says on jegs site that it won't work with the magnum? __________________ 2003 Mach 1- Azure Blue-Manual- Intake/exhaust/ 01 cobra cams/ NX wet kit- 351 rwhp 350 rwtq N/A- 460 rwhp 557 rwtq 100 shot.

05-07-2015, 11:09 AM	#35
DSG2003Mach1 700 HP Mach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 8,384	Re: T56 magnum swap I have a quicktime bell housing on my T56 magnum without issue. The T56 and T56 magnum bellhousing setup is exactly the same __________________ 03 dsg mach1 - MPR built 9.5:1 motor, D1, cams, ported intake, full exhaust, magnum t56, built rear, E85 etc... '12 F150 FX2 Supercrew with Ecoboost daily beater

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