Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

MachMeHard · 09-27-2009, 04:38 PM

Where would I hook up an aftermarket temp sensor in my mach? I'm a lil confused where I can connect it without making the stock gauge unfunctional (like I did with my fox)

Also any links to an accurate oil pressure gauge? I'm sick of the stock dummy gauges, thanks

Scott McClure · 09-27-2009, 06:02 PM

I used a spot in the block for my temp gauge around cylinders #7+8. For the oil pressure gauge I used the stock location.

4-v mach · 09-27-2009, 06:06 PM

are you looking for mechanical or electrical gauges? it does make a difference on where i'd recommend

MachMeHard · 09-27-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

are you looking for mechanical or electrical gauges? it does make a difference on where i'd recommend

Whichevers more accurate, and easiest to install. For the oil pressure gauge, I just t off of the stocker right?

MachMeHard · 09-27-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

I used a spot in the block for my temp gauge around cylinders #7+8. For the oil pressure gauge I used the stock location.

How did you do this? Out of a freeze plug?

Scott McClure · 09-27-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MachMeHard

How did you do this? Out of a freeze plug?

No, there is a plug there from what I remember. I can take a pic this week if need be.

MachMeHard · 09-27-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

No, there is a plug there from what I remember. I can take a pic this week if need be.

Yes please!

2k4mach · 09-27-2009, 08:29 PM

a search would reveal Phil's awesome thread on his install that will basically tell you and give pictures of where you can put the sensors

MachMeHard · 09-27-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

a search would reveal Phil's awesome thread on his install that will basically tell you and give pictures of where you can put the sensors

Ooooo will check sir

4-v mach · 09-27-2009, 10:39 PM

Autometer Part# 2275 allows you to put a mechanical water temp in the drain plug Scott is talking about. Works great on mine. =)

If you do a mech oil pressure, then you can remove the NPT plug that is below the stock electrical sensor (connected to the oil filter adapter) and use copper tubing with compression fittings

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

Autometer Part# 2275 allows you to put a mechanical water temp in the drain plug Scott is talking about. Works great on mine. =)

If you do a mech oil pressure, then you can remove the NPT plug that is below the stock electrical sensor (connected to the oil filter adapter) and use copper tubing with compression fittings

The drain plug on the back of the block? How's the clearance back there with the sensor and the firewall (as in is it hard to do with the motor still in the car)

And that thread was exactly what I needed to read, it cleared up a ton of questions I had. Now to find the adapter to run the oil pressure gauge so that it fits with the power steering junk in the way

03Mach1BoyAdam · 09-28-2009, 05:02 AM

For the oil pressure unit I tapped into the T off of the stocker where the oil filter and stock unit are. For the water temp unit I used the fill plug on top, underneathe the shaker.

4-v mach · 09-28-2009, 08:46 AM

ill post pics when i get home this afternoon for you

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach1BoyAdam

For the oil pressure unit I tapped into the T off of the stocker where the oil filter and stock unit are. For the water temp unit I used the fill plug on top, underneathe the shaker.

did you buy a plug that fit in the crossover and allowed a sensor to be screwd in? or did you drill into the plug?

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Originally Posted by 4-v mach

ill post pics when i get home this afternoon for you

and thank you again sir, and would this gauge work with the above mentioned adapter for the block

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-4337/

03Mach1BoyAdam · 09-28-2009, 12:13 PM

I bought a plug from Home Depot that was tapped 1/8 NPT, it was pretty inexpensive too.

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach1BoyAdam

I bought a plug from Home Depot that was tapped 1/8 NPT, it was pretty inexpensive too.

oooo the only way id do this is if i had a few plugs, in case i mess up

03Mach1BoyAdam · 09-28-2009, 12:28 PM

I didn't tap it, it came like that from the store it was an adapter.

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach1BoyAdam

I didn't tap it, it came like that from the store it was an adapter.

oh oh oh i see what you mean, ill look into that thanks

4-v mach · 09-28-2009, 06:49 PM

here is the mechanical oil pressure in the bottom of the oil filter adapter. the sensor in the front is the stock one.

here is the mechanical water temp. the brass piece is the adapter (part number i gave you). as you can see, it is just before the rubber inspection plug on the drive side.

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 07:23 PM

oh wow the oil pressure sensor fit without an adapter of somesort that's awesome, do you have a link to the oil press gauge you ordered??

4-v mach · 09-28-2009, 07:37 PM

if i remember correctly, the 1st brass piece is 1/4 NPT male to 1/8 NPT female, then 1/8 NPT male to 1/8 compression fitting with 1/8 copper tube. most of that should come in this kit

Autometer 3224 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3224/

this is the gauge i have but you can decide on what color scheme you want
Autometer 4323 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-4323/

metric adapter for water temp
Autometer 2275 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-2275/

again, what i have but feel free to pick your style
Autometer 4331 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-4331/

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 08:11 PM

Good god you're making this too easy, thank you! Did you just use an add a fuse and tap into the fuse for the radio?

4-v mach · 09-28-2009, 10:48 PM

i'll take a pic tomorrow on the electrical connection.

i just got a fuse tap (with separate fuse) and put it in the fuse that controls the dimmer. the gauges have their own fuse but also dim with the dimmer switch. i think it's a 5A fuse... they don't need much current to light up

MachMeHard · 09-28-2009, 11:31 PM

Cool dude I look forward to it! And thanks you couldn't have been more help

MachMeHard · 09-30-2009, 12:19 PM

one quick question, how the hell did you get to the plug on the back of the block? from under the car?

09-27-2009, 04:38 PM	#1
MachMeHard My fox was easier Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 114	Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges Where would I hook up an aftermarket temp sensor in my mach? I'm a lil confused where I can connect it without making the stock gauge unfunctional (like I did with my fox) Also any links to an accurate oil pressure gauge? I'm sick of the stock dummy gauges, thanks

09-27-2009, 06:02 PM	#2
Scott McClure Mach1 member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: East Haven, CT Posts: 3,349	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges I used a spot in the block for my temp gauge around cylinders #7+8. For the oil pressure gauge I used the stock location. __________________ 2011 Mustang GT Grabber Blue Automatic 2003 Mach 1 Whipple 2.3 718 rwhp 735 rwtq @25 psi SOLD

09-27-2009, 06:06 PM	#3
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges are you looking for mechanical or electrical gauges? it does make a difference on where i'd recommend __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-27-2009, 08:29 PM	#8
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges a search would reveal Phil's awesome thread on his install that will basically tell you and give pictures of where you can put the sensors __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

09-27-2009, 10:39 PM	#10
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges Autometer Part# 2275 allows you to put a mechanical water temp in the drain plug Scott is talking about. Works great on mine. =) If you do a mech oil pressure, then you can remove the NPT plug that is below the stock electrical sensor (connected to the oil filter adapter) and use copper tubing with compression fittings __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-28-2009, 05:02 AM	#12
03Mach1BoyAdam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cecil County, MD Posts: 785	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges For the oil pressure unit I tapped into the T off of the stocker where the oil filter and stock unit are. For the water temp unit I used the fill plug on top, underneathe the shaker. __________________ 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 - 5 Speed IUP Steeda Tri Ax Short Throw,Steeda Clutch Quadrant, Steeda Firewall Adjuster, Steeda Shock Tower Brace, MMR Rear Seat Delete, FRPP UCA's, Roush Stage 2 LCA's, Moser 31 Spline Axles, FRPP 31 Spline LSD, FRPP 4.10's, FRPP Aluminum DS, Swarr Rear Axle Brace, GMS Girdle, Steeda G Trac Bar, PHP Spacer, JLT RAI, Predator Tuner, 1/2" Shaker Extension, H&R SS Springs, MM C/C Plates, MAC Long Tubes, MAC O/R H Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, 17x9 & 17x10.5 Black FR500's.

09-28-2009, 08:46 AM	#13
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges ill post pics when i get home this afternoon for you __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-28-2009, 12:13 PM	#15
03Mach1BoyAdam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cecil County, MD Posts: 785	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges I bought a plug from Home Depot that was tapped 1/8 NPT, it was pretty inexpensive too. __________________ 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 - 5 Speed IUP Steeda Tri Ax Short Throw,Steeda Clutch Quadrant, Steeda Firewall Adjuster, Steeda Shock Tower Brace, MMR Rear Seat Delete, FRPP UCA's, Roush Stage 2 LCA's, Moser 31 Spline Axles, FRPP 31 Spline LSD, FRPP 4.10's, FRPP Aluminum DS, Swarr Rear Axle Brace, GMS Girdle, Steeda G Trac Bar, PHP Spacer, JLT RAI, Predator Tuner, 1/2" Shaker Extension, H&R SS Springs, MM C/C Plates, MAC Long Tubes, MAC O/R H Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, 17x9 & 17x10.5 Black FR500's.

09-28-2009, 12:28 PM	#17
03Mach1BoyAdam Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cecil County, MD Posts: 785	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges I didn't tap it, it came like that from the store it was an adapter. __________________ 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 - 5 Speed IUP Steeda Tri Ax Short Throw,Steeda Clutch Quadrant, Steeda Firewall Adjuster, Steeda Shock Tower Brace, MMR Rear Seat Delete, FRPP UCA's, Roush Stage 2 LCA's, Moser 31 Spline Axles, FRPP 31 Spline LSD, FRPP 4.10's, FRPP Aluminum DS, Swarr Rear Axle Brace, GMS Girdle, Steeda G Trac Bar, PHP Spacer, JLT RAI, Predator Tuner, 1/2" Shaker Extension, H&R SS Springs, MM C/C Plates, MAC Long Tubes, MAC O/R H Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, 17x9 & 17x10.5 Black FR500's.

09-28-2009, 06:49 PM	#19
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges here is the mechanical oil pressure in the bottom of the oil filter adapter. the sensor in the front is the stock one. here is the mechanical water temp. the brass piece is the adapter (part number i gave you). as you can see, it is just before the rubber inspection plug on the drive side. __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-28-2009, 07:23 PM	#20
MachMeHard My fox was easier Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 114	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges oh wow the oil pressure sensor fit without an adapter of somesort that's awesome, do you have a link to the oil press gauge you ordered??

09-28-2009, 07:37 PM	#21
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges if i remember correctly, the 1st brass piece is 1/4 NPT male to 1/8 NPT female, then 1/8 NPT male to 1/8 compression fitting with 1/8 copper tube. most of that should come in this kit Autometer 3224 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3224/ this is the gauge i have but you can decide on what color scheme you want Autometer 4323 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-4323/ metric adapter for water temp Autometer 2275 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-2275/ again, what i have but feel free to pick your style Autometer 4331 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-4331/ __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-28-2009, 08:11 PM	#22
MachMeHard My fox was easier Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 114	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges Good god you're making this too easy, thank you! Did you just use an add a fuse and tap into the fuse for the radio?

09-28-2009, 10:48 PM	#23
4-v mach Sold & Parting Out Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,164	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges i'll take a pic tomorrow on the electrical connection. i just got a fuse tap (with separate fuse) and put it in the fuse that controls the dimmer. the gauges have their own fuse but also dim with the dimmer switch. i think it's a 5A fuse... they don't need much current to light up __________________ 04 AB 5sp IUP Every Bolt-On Imaginable Full Tubular Drag Suspension Moser 35-Spline, Spool, C-Elim's, 4.88's, etc. Zex 100 Shot SCT by Justin @ VMP Tuning 15x10 Beadlock & 17x4.5 Aluma-Star 2.0's M/T 28x10.5 ET Drags Massive Diet = 2950 lbs stock: 408hp, 438tq on 100 shot: 11.03 @ 127.3 Aluma-Star's 4 SALE Best Offer Al Papitto built ~11.5:1, .020 over Teksid, custom Comp cams, custom CP domed pistons, ported heads/intake by Kris Starnes 513hp, 410tq on 100 shot: 10.79 @ 133.1

09-28-2009, 11:31 PM	#24
MachMeHard My fox was easier Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 114	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges Cool dude I look forward to it! And thanks you couldn't have been more help

09-30-2009, 12:19 PM	#25
MachMeHard My fox was easier Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 114	Re: Aftermarket temp and oil pressure gauges one quick question, how the hell did you get to the plug on the back of the block? from under the car?

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