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07-26-2012, 12:28 PM | #1 |
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Coolant Mod
Ok I have my heads out and I'm thinking of doing the coolant mod on the drivers side head. What does everyone think?
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07-26-2012, 12:32 PM | #2 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Cooling mod costs alot less than an engine rebuild in the event those back cylinders get hot and detonate. I think its a no brainer if your boosted and the car see's full throttle and/or high speeds, or you have an aggressive tune or setup thats more prone to detonation.
I think its a safe bet to have even if your NA and drive the car hard. I put it on mine.
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07-26-2012, 02:15 PM | #3 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Never hurts to do it IMO.
I've heard mixed reviews on the usefulness of it but I think it would be good.
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07-26-2012, 02:27 PM | #4 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
for a DD with big boost yes....
I didnt do it on mine.....
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07-26-2012, 02:57 PM | #5 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
My car has no mods on it at all, completely stock. I just picked it up last fall so I don't know how hard it has been driven. That being said my valve still burned, you can follow my other posts on it. With the mixed reviews I'm just not sure if it will really fix anything.
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07-26-2012, 03:06 PM | #6 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
If you have the money, it won't hurt anything.
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07-26-2012, 08:03 PM | #7 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
It will definitely improve coolant flow through the heads, in my opinion there is no question about that. There would be no better time to do it.
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10-13-2012, 03:12 PM | #8 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
I'm thinking about doing this mod. How difficult is it to do?
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10-13-2012, 03:47 PM | #9 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
depends on the brand...certain ones you will have to drop the trans..just no way around it
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10-13-2012, 04:00 PM | #10 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Lethal Performance gen 2 cooling head cooling mod.
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10-31-2014, 12:55 PM | #11 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
I know it's merits are debateable but, I'm wondering if directing more flow to the 2 left rear cyls will starve others or create other issues?
Can't seem to find any mention of this so, any feedback would be appreciated.
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10-31-2014, 01:41 PM | #12 | |
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OP - the old LDC cooling mod was acquired by Dagistino Racing or however you spell it, do NOT purchase from them! Youll be lucky to ever see your order, it looks like they may have actually gone under but their site is still up taking orders and processing cards. Cobra engineering has a setup now but you have to buy AN fittings and lines, sounds like its $. As mentioned you might want to look into the Lethal Performance Gen 2 mod that uses a plug on top of the motor at the rear instead but I cant remember how it ties in upfront.
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10-31-2014, 04:42 PM | #13 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Get a new issue of "Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords" they have a complete article with pictures on how to install the Cylinder Head Mod plus why you should do it, about 4 pages worth. The one they installed is "The Cobra Head cooling Mod, but they list 3 others and where to purchase them. They say you can't go wrong with any of them and they highly recommend it.
Bill www.cobraengineering.net www.d'agosting.com www.lethalperformance.com www.modularmotorsportsracing.com
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10-31-2014, 06:00 PM | #14 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Thanks Guys- I was leaning toward doing it though I don't want to create a problem somewhere else. I've had "issues" with #7 and especially #8 cylinders (a long sad, ongoing story) I'd like to see what kind of testing MM&FF did. Thanks for the input.
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10-31-2014, 08:17 PM | #15 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
They talked about NO# 7 & 8 having problems because of not getting coolant to those back 2 cylinders.
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11-03-2014, 06:47 PM | #16 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Cobra engineering stuff is bad a$$..worth the cash imo
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11-03-2014, 08:38 PM | #17 |
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I read it complete, doesn't really seem to hard, especially without an Eaton sitting on top !!
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11-03-2014, 10:42 PM | #19 |
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12-07-2014, 10:30 PM | #20 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
I am slightly confused on this mod and would like to do it because I drive my car at the track. What I am confused about is the installation process, is there a mod that that does not require me to drop the trans or engine? and what does it look like installed?
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12-08-2014, 09:20 AM | #21 | |
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Re: Coolant Mod
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the one sold by lethal performance does not require dropping the transmission to install. If you look at where the stock coolant crossover installs at the front of the motor, there are 2 ports in the same place at the back of the motor. You knock out one of the freeze plugs and put their fitting in then run a hose up from there up toward the coolant crossover or radiator hose...I really cant remember where it hooks in up front though
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Re: Coolant Mod
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http://www.lethalperformance.com/sho...oling-mod.html Here are some pics http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ng-mod-install
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12-08-2014, 09:59 AM | #23 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
^^^ the issue is in the stock setup coolant cant exit the rear of the driver side head so it has to do a big loop through the head instead of just a single pass. Adding either style coolant mod lets coolant flow out of the back of the head
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12-08-2014, 11:19 AM | #24 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
Why not run exits from the passenger and the drivers side to the crossover? Instead of just the one.
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12-08-2014, 11:25 AM | #25 |
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Re: Coolant Mod
the pass side head has an exit at the rear that goes to the heater core
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