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Old 03-06-2008, 01:52 AM   #1601
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it's because it's the COT! No body messes with the COT. What I don't understand is, didn't it go thru a pre-race inspection? Didn't they find all that stuff before the race?





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Old 03-06-2008, 02:03 AM   #1602
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Not that I'm a fan but I hope R. Gordon gets off the hook for his ?? violation. The more I read about it, I'm convinced they were screwed over on the deal.
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:11 AM   #1603
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Carl gets 100 points docked plus loses the 10 points earned toward the chase. Causing him to drop to seventh in the standings and Rousch is fined $100,000 along with the crew chief is suspended for six weeks.

Seems a little harsh doesn't it.
Nah, they are not messing around with the COT. They are trying to make an example out of them.
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Not that I'm a fan but I hope R. Gordon gets off the hook for his ?? violation. The more I read about it, I'm convinced they were screwed over on the deal.

Carl got screwed over, but it looks like (acoording to nascar.com) that RG will have his penalty overturned. He's has it rough the last few months. He lost over $4mil. of his own money when the Paris/Dakar Rally was cancelled this year.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:10 AM   #1605
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Something don't sound right when Roush and Ford does real good on the track?
I don't think that is the case at all. Last year Nascar levied the same fines to Michael Waltrip, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. Nascar is not screwing around. Mess with the COT and you will be hit hard.

(For the record, I don't hate Roush or Ford. I do like Edwards, Kenseth, and Biffle).
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I hoping one Roush cars get the pole this friday in Atanta see what Nascar would say about that.
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OK, so Gordon got the pole (proceed with appropriate Gordon/Johnson/pole references as needed). Carl didn't qualify bad. He won't have many to get by to win a third straight (OK, proceed with Gordon/Johnson/straight jokes as needed).

Now: to more important stuff. I apparently have not been keeping up well with new automotive technology. I must now get a new, NASCAR approved and Roush built, self loosening oil cap for my car.
Why?
According to some Toyota hack:
"On Friday, Lee White, general manager for Toyota Racing Development, told USA Today that removal of the oil cap would provide up to 21 percent more downforce and as much as 50 horsepower. He added that he fully believed the Roush team knew what it was doing going into the race to create an competitive advantage"
If I can get 50 HP and 25% better dowforce at speed from an oil cap loss, then I'm all in on that deal!
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OK, so Gordon got the pole (proceed with appropriate Gordon/Johnson/pole references as needed). Carl didn't qualify bad. He won't have many to get by to win a third straight (OK, proceed with Gordon/Johnson/straight jokes as needed).

Now: to more important stuff. I apparently have not been keeping up well with new automotive technology. I must now get a new, NASCAR approved and Roush built, self loosening oil cap for my car.
Why?
According to some Toyota hack:
"On Friday, Lee White, general manager for Toyota Racing Development, told USA Today that removal of the oil cap would provide up to 21 percent more downforce and as much as 50 horsepower. He added that he fully believed the Roush team knew what it was doing going into the race to create an competitive advantage"
If I can get 50 HP and 25% better dowforce at speed from an oil cap loss, then I'm all in on that deal!
I think it's time put the Toyotas in wall during the race.
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OK, so Gordon got the pole (proceed with appropriate Gordon/Johnson/pole references as needed). Carl didn't qualify bad. He won't have many to get by to win a third straight (OK, proceed with Gordon/Johnson/straight jokes as needed).

Now: to more important stuff. I apparently have not been keeping up well with new automotive technology. I must now get a new, NASCAR approved and Roush built, self loosening oil cap for my car.
Why?
According to some Toyota hack:
"On Friday, Lee White, general manager for Toyota Racing Development, told USA Today that removal of the oil cap would provide up to 21 percent more downforce and as much as 50 horsepower. He added that he fully believed the Roush team knew what it was doing going into the race to create an competitive advantage"
If I can get 50 HP and 25% better dowforce at speed from an oil cap loss, then I'm all in on that deal!
That is a real smart statment! I'm going to go take the oil cap of my cars and marvel at the improvements!

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I think it's time put the Toyotas in wall during the race.
LMAO!!! I second that motion and move to proceed!
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:04 AM   #1610
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I think it's time put the Toyotas in wall during the race.

Now, now...they seem to do that just fine all by themselves. They need help wiht that about as much as Hendrat cars need finishing waaaayyy back!

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Old 03-08-2008, 07:56 AM   #1611
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Every person that I have heard on tv and in the press all say that the removal of the cap does reduce the drag on the car. Even the old timers said they use to do something similar in their days. As for the increase in hp, I'm not buying that statement.

For some reason I believe Roush and the Edwards team that they did not intentionally remove the cap. Perhaps if they investigate it further they may be able to determain that there was a defect in the piece.

As for the race, it's a nice 1-2 at the start for Hendricks with Gordon and Earnhardt.(notice the lack of the word pole here, you sick Gordon haters. LOL)

My prediction of the top 5 are,

1. Jeff Gordon(of course)
2. Carl Edwards(with or without a cap the dude is hot)
3. Kyle Busch(Hoping he finds the wall)
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I know I'm a week late here but my internet was turned off for a week cause I moved but when Carls tire rolled out in the grass last week, he didn't get penalized for it but I thought it was a godd call cause it wasn't their fault. Now I didn't hear anything complaining about it in the news or no polls about it but if that were to happen to JJ or JG, people would complain about it cause it was a Hendrick car.
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OK, so Gordon got the pole (proceed with appropriate Gordon/Johnson/pole references as needed). Carl didn't qualify bad. He won't have many to get by to win a third straight (OK, proceed with Gordon/Johnson/straight jokes as needed).

Now: to more important stuff. I apparently have not been keeping up well with new automotive technology. I must now get a new, NASCAR approved and Roush built, self loosening oil cap for my car.
Why?
According to some Toyota hack:
"On Friday, Lee White, general manager for Toyota Racing Development, told USA Today that removal of the oil cap would provide up to 21 percent more downforce and as much as 50 horsepower. He added that he fully believed the Roush team knew what it was doing going into the race to create an competitive advantage"
If I can get 50 HP and 25% better dowforce at speed from an oil cap loss, then I'm all in on that deal!

Leave it to those Toyo guys to figure out where we American's get our superior horsepower. Now, if they find the muffler bearings, we are screwed. No wait, the ricer guys already know about them!
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"Now: to more important stuff. I apparently have not been keeping up well with new automotive technology. I must now get a new, NASCAR approved and Roush built, self loosening oil cap for my car.
Why?
According to some Toyota hack:
"On Friday, Lee White, general manager for Toyota Racing Development, told USA Today that removal of the oil cap would provide up to 21 percent more downforce and as much as 50 horsepower. He added that he fully believed the Roush team knew what it was doing going into the race to create an competitive advantage"
If I can get 50 HP and 25% better dowforce at speed from an oil cap loss, then I'm all in on that deal!
"

I can't wait til I see ricers at car shows missing the oil caps!! They already have the Nascar decals.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:45 AM   #1615
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Reminisent of the race in...... what '91ish? We've had flurries down here in middle Ga. as well. Winds a b!tch today!
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Leave it to those Toyo guys to figure out where we American's get our superior horsepower. Now, if they find the muffler bearings, we are screwed. No wait, the ricer guys already know about them!
Nascar should check brush's NW #20 car he has to big of lead
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Brush blew a tire yes!
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Matt won in NW I am going get some free fries on monday!
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Nascar should check brush's NW #20 car he has to big of lead
I think Shrub heard about Edwards oil cap trick and figured if one was good, four must be better. Unfortunately the caps he left off were the valve stem caps!!!

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Reminisent of the race in...... what '91ish? We've had flurries down here in middle Ga. as well. Winds a b!tch today!

I'll switch weather with you. Here in Northeast Ohio I have 16 inches of freaking snow on the ground the winds a b!tch as well and the freaking snow plow hasn't been around for two days so I can't get out and get some of life's necessities like Budweiser and Dorito's.
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How in the heck can an oil cap increase downforce?
Or HP for that matter?
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I know I'm a week late here but my internet was turned off for a week cause I moved but when Carls tire rolled out in the grass last week, he didn't get penalized for it but I thought it was a godd call cause it wasn't their fault. Now I didn't hear anything complaining about it in the news or no polls about it but if that were to happen to JJ or JG, people would complain about it cause it was a Hendrick car.
You are correct. It was the right call with Edwards. But you are also right that if it were JJ or JG it would be called a favoritism toward the Hendricks teams.
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How in the heck can an oil cap increase downforce?
Or HP for that matter?
Money talks when Toyota and GM buys Nascar.
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