New Project "R" thread

[birdman941]

Thanks Kevin, me too.
Shifter is in, no biggie.
All that's left is the motor from Al and the paint work.
Also, if possible, want to get it on a dyno too see what the stock Navi long block will do for numbers.
I think it's a bit lean right now from the added displacement.

[birdman941]

After a LOT of work and some hard decisions,
here is a pic of the final intake design.
I will not be doing the sheetmetal style,
mainly due to the extremely high cost.
This is a modified Aussie Boss upper on a stock Boss lower.
Throttle linkage mounting still needs to be done,
and I currently have several on hand.
I will put it on the car in the next few weeks.
Comments?

[Shinigami]

that is SEXY. i guess it wouldn't never fit on a 4.6 huh?

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by Shinigami

that is SEXY. i guess it wouldn't never fit on a 4.6 huh?

Like Wild Bill said, a 5.4 is wider.

I am not sure if I should post this or not, but..................
This upper intake would not have been possible
without the help of Scott Boda and Kevin Hill of Steeda manufacturing
in Pompano Beach, Florida.
It also would not have happened without the blessing of Dario Orlando,
Steeda owner.
Many thanks go to the management and Manufacturing wings of Steeda.
This part is NOT available from Steeda, so don't ask them.

[Angus66]

Looks nice!

Originally Posted by birdman941

Like Wild Bill said, a 5.4 is wider.

I am not sure if I should post this or not, but..................
This upper intake would not have been possible
without the help of Scott Boda and Kevin Hill of Steeda manufacturing
in Pompano Beach, Florida.
It also would not have happened without the blessing of Dario Orlando,
Steeda owner.
Many thanks go to the management and Manufacturing wings of Steeda.
This part is NOT available from Steeda, so don't ask them.

It should be easy enough to duplicate without help from Steeda as long as you have obtained an Australian upper.

It looks like it's simply an Aussie upper with an '03/'04 Cobra inlet welded on to the reverse side...

[birdman941]

Thanks.
My design and their assistance.
I do not have a tig welder and cannot tig weld.
They have assisted in other aspects of the kit as well.
I was just saying thanks.
There is a minimum of 12 hours of work in each lid BTW,
that's after finding one from the other end of the planet.
I could not find better place to have things made on CNC equipment,
and the QC is pretty tight there.

[Angus66]

Originally Posted by birdman941

My design and their assistance.
I do not have a tig welder and cannot tig weld.
They have assisted in other aspects of the kit as well.
I was just saying thanks.
There is a minimum of 12 hours of work in each lid BTW,
that's after finding one from the other end of the planet.

I didn't mean to sound like I was bagging on the lid and/or Steedas help in making it.

My apologies if my post sounded that way...

[birdman941]

It didn't sound like you were bagging.
The logistics of making these is pretty intense.
Steeda mfg. is also making other portions of the kit as well,
but they will not have these parts available through them.

[Lx5.4]

Steve the new lid is awsome, I'm the one that e-mailed you about your kit for my fox- body. I know that your kit works with the Boss 290 intake, but it only works if you us the 4.6 Cobra heads, I'm running the Navigator heads, that is why I was asking about the kit w/o the intake. Now that you are using the actual Boss 290 hat I might be interrested in the hole deal & switch to the Cobra heads, so how much with intake & w/o it?

[Bulldogging]

It looks great.

How will the Boss upper affect the kit pricing(as in more/less expensive)? Any idea how far off you are from production and final pricing?

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by Lx5.4

Steve the new lid is awsome, I'm the one that e-mailed you about your kit for my fox- body. I know that your kit works with the Boss 290 intake, but it only works if you us the 4.6 Cobra heads, I'm running the Navigator heads, that is why I was asking about the kit w/o the intake. Now that you are using the actual Boss 290 hat I might be interrested in the hole deal & switch to the Cobra heads, so how much with intake & w/o it?

It can work with Navi heads, if you get the kit I will explain how.
Mine still has Navi heads and the lower seals just fine,
it's just making people aware that there is an intake port mismatch.

Originally Posted by Bulldogging

It looks great.

How will the Boss upper affect the kit pricing(as in more/less expensive)? Any idea how far off you are from production and final pricing?

It will remain about the same as I hoped.
It makes the kit less expensive, but the exchange rate between the US and Au dollar is almost even.
That makes the parts from Au more expensive.
One kit is spoken for and about ready to go out the door,
and another one is about finished.
Currently, it's about 4k shipped.
Just so all of you are aware,
I am out of town A LOT and have very limited internet access during the week,
so if I do not answer you right away, I am not ignoring you.

[birdman941]

Update:
I went and bought an SCT X Cal 2 today and had a custom tune put on it
with a lot of input from Al Papitto and Wild Bill. (M1M)
I uploaded the tune into the PCM and took it for a drive around the block.
Let me give you my biased opinion.
I have driven cars with blowers both Eaton and centrifugal.
The 5.4 32V engine, even in stock Navi long block configuration,
with the Aussie intake and LT's will rip your friggin head off.
Proper spelling is T O R Q U E
The car literally can shed the tires if I wanted to at any throttle position now.
And it's not even running a proper dyno tune.
Imagine what a Boss 330 motor with a proper tune will do.
Another kit almost ready to ship ( as stated above).

[machths]

Originally Posted by birdman941

I have driven cars with blowers both Eaton and centrifugal.
The 5.4 32V engine, even in stock Navi long block configuration,
with the Aussie intake and LT's will rip your friggin head off.
Proper spelling is T O R Q U E
The car literally can shed the tires if I wanted to at any throttle position now.
And it's not even running a proper dyno tune.

Now that's what I like to hear! Can't wait for video footage of the finished product.

[Lx5.4]

Now just imagine one of those in a light weight notchback. I can't wait to get mine in. Birdman in you e-mail you where not sure how your kit would work in the old fox body, but I am willing to try it on mine. I found a place around me that will make spacers for the k- member but obviously you have more in your kit to allow the motor to sit lower than just spacers to allow the HB system to be used. There are a ton of us with the old fox bodies looking for just this to put these motors in our cars as well. Please!!!!!!! let me know if you are willing to sell just the lower half or 'base' of your kit. I just can't afford 4k right now.

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by machths

Now that's what I like to hear! Can't wait for video footage of the finished product.

Thanks.
If I can, I might bring it to Valdosta for the Steeda 20th anniversary.
Maybe...............

Originally Posted by Lx5.4

Now just imagine one of those in a light weight notchback. I can't wait to get mine in. Birdman in you e-mail you where not sure how your kit would work in the old fox body, but I am willing to try it on mine. I found a place around me that will make spacers for the k- member but obviously you have more in your kit to allow the motor to sit lower than just spacers to allow the HB system to be used. There are a ton of us with the old fox bodies looking for just this to put these motors in our cars as well. Please!!!!!!! let me know if you are willing to sell just the lower half or 'base' of your kit. I just can't afford 4k right now.

The intake is the most expensive part of the kit,
and currently I really don't want to break up a kit.
There are a lot of things different on a Fox as compared to an SN95.
I am sure it could work, but a lot of fabrication would be needed.

[Lx5.4]

I'm sure that there are quite a few differences between the SN-95 & the old fox body, but I'm will to do the work to get everything to work. The reason I don't need the intake, other than the exspence, I was lucky enough to find a new GT-500 dirt cheap and as of right now the only intake other than a custom piece is to go w/ a Sullivan to fit the new 'R' heads. Which is the way I'm going. Then I will be installing a turbo setup. This is why I keep asking about just portion of your kit. Mainly the point of have the engine sit lower in the engine compartment, unless I missed something in all these pages.

[birdman941]

I really don't know if what I have will work or fit,
as it was not designed to work on a Fox,
and I do not have any Fox components to even try.

[Lx5.4]

May I ask what you do have as of right now that takes to get the engine to sit lower? Im not trying to still you thonder at all just try to make my car as bad as I can and hopefully w/ your help I can. I plan on changing everything over from an sn-95 so if that helps. I really would like to help you out as much as possible, but the bad deal is I live in Iowa so I'm no where near you to just drop by with the car or even have you come by to look at it.

[birdman941]

What I would suggest first is to test fit the motor into the car.
A 4.6 32V is a tight squeeze in a Fox, let alone a 5.4 32V.
After a fitment test,
you may want to reconsider what you are installing the motor into.
A Fox engine bay is quite a bit narrower than an SN95.
Major surgery is likely putting a Shelby motor in a Fox.
You will also likely have to run manual brakes,
as I highly doubt hydroboost will fit.
If you can make it work, more power to you.

[machths]

Originally Posted by birdman941

Thanks.
If I can, I might bring it to Valdosta for the Steeda 20th anniversary.
Maybe...............

That would be worth the trip down there for me to see this beast in person! Keep me posted.

[Lx5.4]

Thanks for your help. Everyone I talk says the same thing about the Hydroboost, but there is a guy on another web site that has done put the 5.4 32v w/ the HB, but I can't get him to respond to any e-mails or texts that I post on is threads. I was just hopping that you could give me a hand. I will keep reading & hoping you find a way.

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by Lx5.4

Thanks for your help. Everyone I talk says the same thing about the Hydroboost, but there is a guy on another web site that has done put the 5.4 32v w/ the HB, but I can't get him to respond to any e-mails or texts that I post on is threads. I was just hopping that you could give me a hand. I will keep reading & hoping you find a way.

One of the magazines is doing a Shelby motor in a Fox.

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by birdman941

What I would suggest first is to test fit the motor into the car.
A 4.6 32V is a tight squeeze in a Fox, let alone a 5.4 32V.
After a fitment test,
you may want to reconsider what you are installing the motor into.
A Fox engine bay is quite a bit narrower than an SN95.
Major surgery is likely putting a Shelby motor in a Fox.
You will also likely have to run manual brakes,
as I highly doubt hydroboost will fit.
If you can make it work, more power to you.

It's tight, but it fits. This car was built by a buddy of mine.

[birdman941]

Man that is tight!

[Lx5.4]

I am constantly reading about the build up in 5.0 & I even e-mailed the motorsports company about the build. I asked them some questions but I have not heard a word from them. Gene's old car is awsome I have every magizine that the car was in. That is where I got the idea from, to install the 5.4 in my car. I did some further investagition between the sn-95 & the fox, there is not that much difference between the two. From firewall to the front rad. support is the major difference, but from shock tower to shock tower is not that different. That is why I can use the same k-member, the arms are longer on the sn-95 though. Just keep me in mind if you want to do an experiment.