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Old 08-06-2004, 12:15 AM   #601
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Sorry Frank, AZDave nailed the last three right on the head. Those are some of the most 'unknown' and unique Mustangs out there. There is even a website dedicated to the overseas built Mustangs, and they do include the Aussie built/modified cars as well. There is an excellent feature on the German Mustang site on a recently uncovered Mexican built car. :THUMBSUP: (PS This is getting tough!)

For today, there was one 'real' Super Snake built in '67. It is a GT-500 powered by a 427 side oiler engine. What was the one cosmetic feature that set it apart from other Shelby's?
I believe it is in the striping. The over the car striping was one large stripe with a smaller stripe on each side of it. The car was white with blue stripes.
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:34 AM   #602
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I believe it is in the striping. The over the car striping was one large stripe with a smaller stripe on each side of it. The car was white with blue stripes.
If sameone I saw on my Classic Car tv last year

it didn't have stripes on it.
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The Super Snake (the real one, not that fake stuff they're churning out of Texas) was built for high speed tire testign for Goodyear. It had a large single center stripe, unlike the dual LeMans stripes which themselves were an option on the Shelby Mustangs and came on much fewer cars than you see now.

For anyone who wants to see some unique pictures, the newest issue os Muscle Car Review has some vintage photos of Mustangs. The Boss 302 shown has a prototype grille with an offset tri bar logo and long style Magnum center caps. There is also a review of the King Cobra project which also shows a drawing of what is listed as a Boss King Cobra, but is in fact a Ranchero King Cobra, which was never actually built! Very cool!

For today; Shelby started his 'production' facility on the grounds of what place? Where was Shelby Mustang production moved to later on?
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:44 PM   #604
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The Super Snake (the real one, not that fake stuff they're churning out of Texas) was built for high speed tire testign for Goodyear. It had a large single center stripe, unlike the dual LeMans stripes which themselves were an option on the Shelby Mustangs and came on much fewer cars than you see now.

For anyone who wants to see some unique pictures, the newest issue os Muscle Car Review has some vintage photos of Mustangs. The Boss 302 shown has a prototype grille with an offset tri bar logo and long style Magnum center caps. There is also a review of the King Cobra project which also shows a drawing of what is listed as a Boss King Cobra, but is in fact a Ranchero King Cobra, which was never actually built! Very cool!

For today; Shelby started his 'production' facility on the grounds of what place? Where was Shelby Mustang production moved to later on?
It started in CA then move to TX.
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a)sort of but not really the answer I was looking for.
b) No, unless you count the 'Eleanors', and I don't!

PS The continuation cars are built in Las Vegas, but that's not the answers I was looking for, either.
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The Venice, California, airport originally then all 1968 Shelby Mustangs were built in Metuchen, New Jersey, and shipped by rail to Ionia, Michigan. The Shelby add-ons replaced stock Ford pieces, so the cars were shipped minus those body parts.

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The '68 and up cars were finished at the A.O. Smith plant where all the Shelby unique pieces were finally added, before that they were indeed built at the airport.:THUMBSUP:
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Been a while!

For today; even though the first generation Mustang an dCougar shared platforms, there were many differences in the details. For the most part they shared all drivetrains, but what was the one engine option available for the Cougar that was only an urban legend when it came to the Mustang? (This is for first gen only 67-70) Bonus, what engines that came in the Mustang wer not available in the Cougar? (Hint; it was not the Boss 302 or 429 engines, those did happen although in very small numbers):THUMBSUP:
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For today; even though the first generation Mustang an dCougar shared platforms, there were many differences in the details. For the most part they shared all drivetrains, but what was the one engine option available for the Cougar that was only an urban legend when it came to the Mustang? (This is for first gen only 67-70) Bonus, what engines that came in the Mustang wer not available in the Cougar? (Hint; it was not the Boss 302 or 429 engines, those did happen although in very small numbers):THUMBSUP:

You could get a Cougar with a 427. I have an article from "Car Life" magazine that has a road test of one. Best I remember it was low 15-second quarter miler in the road test.

Well, no Cougar's came with 6-cyliners back then. I guess one of those would be more rare than a Boss 429 Cougar (LOL).

For those too young to remember, "Car Life" magazine had THE BEST ROAD TESTS back then. It was bought out by Motor Trend in the 70's but in reality........It just died
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Right on all counts. The 'W' code 427 Mustang has remained a myth for many years (like the Tunnel Port 302), but for '68 you could actually get a 427 in a Mercury Cougar, but they were no screamers and a 428 would eat it alive. The Cougar came with only V-8's, so there were no 6 cyl. Cougars in those years.
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You could not get a hipo 289 in a cougar either.
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Right as well. I overlooked the K code HiPo, but it could not be had in a Cougar, although oddly enough it could be had in other Mercury products as well as other Ford cars (Comet, Cyclone, Fairlane, Falcon)
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I will have to double check, but I believe in 67 the mustang was the only car optioned with the 289 hipo.
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Probably true, but I was only using the '67 as a reference to the Cougar, as it was its' first year of production. My comments about the other cars was a general statement covering all years of the K-code engine.
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Todays triva What years did the Mustang had German motor in the Mustang and what was the name of Mustang over Germany call?
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The exported Mustangs were called T-5, since the Mustang brand name was already coprighted in Germany. The european sourced V-6 used from '74 (in the Mustang II) until mid-'79 was later replaced by an inline 200cid 6 cyl. engine.

For today, what transmission what used in the first gen. Mustangs was sourced in europe, and what was its unique application?
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The exported Mustangs were called T-5, since the Mustang brand name was already coprighted in Germany. The european sourced V-6 used from '74 (in the Mustang II) until mid-'79 was later replaced by an inline 200cid 6 cyl. engine.

For today, what transmission what used in the first gen. Mustangs was sourced in europe, and what was its unique application?

You miss one more year on German V6 2005 Mustang 4.0 V6
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I haven't seen any informaiton indicating that the 4.0 SOHC is German sourced. It does sound vaguely familiar as an Explorer motor, but I don't think those are German.

You still didn't answer my question...
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I haven't seen any informaiton indicating that the 4.0 SOHC is German sourced. It does sound vaguely familiar as an Explorer motor, but I don't think those are German.

You still didn't answer my question...
Was it T5
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Not that one, the transmission question...

More of this and I'm putting you on the Hooters Trivia thread!
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For today;

What was the original advertised base price of the Mustang when it was introduced? (It's not as obscure as it seems, it was blatantly shown in nearly all of the original advertising.)

Shelby fans; The 427 Cobra used a standard Ford shifter on the 4 speed cars (there were two autos, so I'm trying to be precise). It was the same as shifters found on Mustangs, Falcons, and Fairlanes...except for what one major change? Bonus; on all Cobras the VIN# starts with either COB or CSX, what was the difference between the two designators?

PS, still waiting on the answer to the transmission question.
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The exported Mustangs were called T-5, since the Mustang brand name was already coprighted in Germany. The european sourced V-6 used from '74 (in the Mustang II) until mid-'79 was later replaced by an inline 200cid 6 cyl. engine.

For today, what transmission what used in the first gen. Mustangs was sourced in europe, and what was its unique application?
vell let's zee, herr falconetc., i belief dat vas de scalet down werzun of de blohm und voss tranzmission dey ust in der tiger tank. :LAUGH:
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Vun mohr annnzer lik dat, und huw vill be shott ven der zun comz uppun der mornink! Nutink lezz den der Panzer fer das Mushtanger!
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The exported Mustangs were called T-5, since the Mustang brand name was already coprighted in Germany. The european sourced V-6 used from '74 (in the Mustang II) until mid-'79 was later replaced by an inline 200cid 6 cyl. engine.

For today, what transmission what used in the first gen. Mustangs was sourced in europe, and what was its unique application?

There were also first generation (well, 64-66 at least) mustangs that were T-5's. They too had the 289 option and again the K was one of the 289's, rare, but true.


Falcon, I knew you were refering to 67 as cougar and mentioning the rest as K optioned. I was just trying to give a little extra info. :THUMBSUP:
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For today;

What was the original advertised base price of the Mustang when it was introduced? (It's not as obscure as it seems, it was blatantly shown in nearly all of the original advertising.)

Shelby fans; The 427 Cobra used a standard Ford shifter on the 4 speed cars (there were two autos, so I'm trying to be precise). It was the same as shifters found on Mustangs, Falcons, and Fairlanes...except for what one major change? Bonus; on all Cobras the VIN# starts with either COB or CSX, what was the difference between the two designators?


PS, still waiting on the answer to the transmission question.

It was for around $2500 (base cost)

I am not a shelby fan so I don't know. But I believe, the CSX and COB references the build plant. I don't think all cobras came from shelby's factory in So. Cal.

Not sure on the tranny....

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