Trick Flow OEM style Ford Roller Followers

[na svt]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Randy
Aren't the lash adjusters different in the GT(40)?

Yes, the lash adjusters for the GT heads have a smaller diameter.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by na svt

Yes, the lash adjusters for the GT heads have a smaller diameter.

Are they like the 2000 Cobra R?

[na svt]

same height I think...

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

I have been selling FGT valve train for high reving applications and it appears to be the shiznit. The follower has a deeper recess that the tappet fits into. This setup is alot more stable at RPM's and I havent had one reported failure. The engines I'm speaking of live in the 8K+ range.

But; it's an expensive setup ($1000+) for 32 followers and 16/16 tappets.

Originally Posted by RandyStinchcomb

Phil, another good choice for an oem follower is the GT(40) follower, part # 4G7Z-6564-AA, seems some of my engine building customers prefer it over the F8AZ-6564-AA "standard" follower....
iirc, it had something to-do wth the oil spray pattern, which is aimed at the cam lobes instead of straight up at the cam cover...

still cant answer you PM wth 100% certainty about whether or not FoMoCo heat treats the followers body, which I highly doubt because of cost

Beat ya too it.

Originally Posted by Phil

Thanks for the info Joe! The Jesel double roller/solid lifter kit is about $3500+... Glad you chimed in!!!! Can you check the price for factory OEM roller followers & hydraulic lash adjusters? Also, do you know if the factory OEM stamped steel follower body is heat treated, along with the lash adjusters?

I know the roller itself, is hardened. Thanks!

I dont know if the body itself has been heat treated either. I have never seen one fail, but I have seen them pop off the lifter.

Retail on the rocker arm is $19.46, M1R discount would be $14.34 ea. Retail on the lifter would be $12.05, M1R discount would be $8.88 ea. *$734.04 for 32 of each.

FGT parts Randy and I are talking about:

4G7Z-6564-AA (FGT/GT500) Follower
4G7Z-6500-AA (FGT/GT500) Tappet Exhaust
F77Z-6500-AB (FGT/GT500/4.0L) Tappet Intake

Full set of these would cost $1048.96 with M1R discount. I hope this helps.

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by Phil

Are they like the 2000 Cobra R?

They would be very similar, if not the same. The 2000R, FGT and 2007-up GT500 use the same basic head that was developed way back in the Ford Rough Rider Off Road Truck program.

FWIW: I know my customers have used these in both 2V and 4V applications.

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Randy
Aren't the lash adjusters different in the GT(40)?

well, yes and no....the Ford GT(40) uses 2 different lash adjusters....
on the Exhaust side, it uses a F77Z-6500-AB, which is also used on the 4.0 SOHC engines and on the Intake side it's a 4G7Z-6500-AA....

also of note:
the '07 up Shelby Mustangs also use the same lash adjusters and cam followers as the Ford GT(40).....



****-it all Joe, you beat me to it................again

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by RandyStinchcomb

Dam-n Joe, you beat me to it................again

You busy too this afternoon!?!?!?! Edit: its slow here this afternoon.

[na svt]

How much are 16 FR500 (4.0) followers?

Also, will the GT followers work with the standard lash adjusters in a set of non-GT heads?

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

You busy too this afternoon!?!?!?! Edit: its slow here this afternoon.

LOL, yeah, so sloooow here that Im taking off in an hour to-go Bow Hunting

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by na svt

How much are 16 FR500 (4.0) followers?

Also, will the GT followers work with the standard lash adjusters in a set of non-GT heads?

4.0 followers (YL2Z-6564-AA) would cost $150.56 for 16 or $9.41 each.

I honestly dont know what will interchange on these followers/lifters. I'm just the poor sap that sells them.

[Linumup]

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

4.0 followers (YL2Z-6564-AA) would cost $150.56 for 16 or $9.41 each.

I honestly dont know what will interchange on these followers/lifters. I'm just the poor sap that sells them.

Hes trying to piece together the balance of the kit i sent him .
My old FR500 kit .

I think !

[na svt]

Originally Posted by Linumup

Hes trying to piece together the balance of the kit i sent him .
My old FR500 kit .
I think !

You are correct. Oh, and thanks again. I have a set of new FR valves, 04 heads, lash adjusters, and 32 followers, of which 16 can be used on the intake side with the FR valves. The 16 4.0 followers are for the exhaust side.

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

4.0 followers (YL2Z-6564-AA) would cost $150.56 for 16 or $9.41 each.
I honestly dont know what will interchange on these followers/lifters. I'm just the poor sap that sells them.

Thanks, how can I go about getting them?

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by na svt

You are correct. Oh, and thanks again. I have a set of new FR valves, 04 heads, lash adjusters, and 32 followers, of which 16 can be used on the intake side with the FR valves. The 16 4.0 followers are for the exhaust side.


Thanks, how can I go about getting them?

You can call me at 888-FORD-SVT and I can process your order. If you give me you zipcode I can figure freight and you can pay via PayPal if you want to.

[na svt]

Okay, I saw some GT followers this weekend while visiting with John Tymensky. They are different...very different. The "cup" that the lash adjuster sits in seems to be deeper which cuold ahve the potential to reduce "thrown" followers.

[RandyStinchcomb]

Originally Posted by na svt

Okay, I saw some GT followers this weekend while visiting with John Tymensky. They are different...very different. The "cup" that the lash adjuster sits in seems to be deeper which cuold ahve the potential to reduce "thrown" followers.

those should be the GT(40) ones, as John is the one who turned me on to them some years back

[birdman941]

Originally Posted by RandyStinchcomb

LOL, yeah, so sloooow here that Im taking off in an hour to-go Bow Hunting

Did you catch any bows?
I just buy mine at the stationary store.
It's easy to find 'cuz it never moves. (pun)

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

That seems silly because the 5.4 won't see near the rpm a 4.6 would.

They were developed in the CORE Off Road Truck Racing program back in the day. Who knows what else they were doing in that program.

[Phil]

So far the best price I have found for genuine Ford factory roller followers is from Modular Motor Racing. Listed on their web site for $299.99 for 32 followers. Figure about $20 shipping, if that...??!!!

Puts the cost at $9.99 ea. or slightly less.

[na svt]

Originally Posted by Phil

So far the best price I have found for genuine Ford factory roller followers is from Modular Motor Racing. Listed on their web site for $299.99 for 32 followers. Figure about $20 shipping, if that...??!!!

Puts the cost at $9.99 ea. or slightly less.

Yes, but they won't work with the FR500 exhaust valves, for that setup the 4.0 followers are needed.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by na svt

Yes, but they won't work with the FR500 exhaust valves, for that setup the 4.0 followers are needed.

I was just quoting the cheapest factory followers for my 4.6l DOHC motor. Not following FR500 valves/followers or 4.0 followers, or any other motor, or thinking I could use those. Just for my 4.6l DOHC, with factory valves.

I started this thread in hopes to find out if anyone had used/tried the heat treated trick flow factory roller followers..

[ITLRUN]

Originally Posted by Phil

So far the best price I have found for genuine Ford factory roller followers is from Modular Motor Racing. Listed on their web site for $299.99 for 32 followers. Figure about $20 shipping, if that...??!!!

Puts the cost at $9.99 ea. or slightly less.

I dunno how they do that.... my cost is $2+ each higher. Killer Deal ifs it's legit New FoMoCo parts!!!

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

I dunno how they do that.... my cost is $2+ each higher. Killer Deal ifs it's legit New FoMoCo parts!!!

I don't know if it's legit new Ford followers..??? I will be contacting them soon. I have not bought/ordered any followers/lifters yet. Just researching and taking my time..!! Thanks Joe!

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

You damm well know Mark Lutton is selling USED followers!!!

Thanks for the heads up Bill..!!! I will be checking into this..!

[na svt]

Originally Posted by Phil

I started this thread in hopes to find out if anyone had used/tried the heat treated trick flow factory roller followers..

we kinda jacked yoru thread, sorry about that.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ITLRUN

I dunno how they do that.... my cost is $2+ each higher. Killer Deal ifs it's legit New FoMoCo parts!!!

How is Trick Flow getting these factory followers, then heat treating the bodies and selling them for $11.95..?? Summit Racing did buy Trick Flow back in 1992, but I guess kept the Trick Flow name.