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ylopony · 04-30-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by geoffav

Jeffy will never be as well liked as guys with "0" championships like Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, and Ricky Rudd. He and his car owner have history and problems that make them unattractive to the knowledgeable fan.

I don't think it's fair to lump Dale Sr fans into a "low IQ" heap. Until I see someone better come along, he is the greatest of all time. His style also attracted a rough element that just ain't the average "Big E" fan.

I agree with you that it's unfair to lump Sr fans as having low iq's. That is not a fair sterotype. The minority of those fans doing that crap are the ones who have the intellegence of a flea on a dog's butt.

As for the containers. It will end up being ALL containers banned if this keeps up. That includes beer, pop, water, and the kiddies Kool-Aide. I have brought in water and even a couple of beers to the track in the past and even with my least favorite driver winning I was never temptd to through it at the driver in the #20 car.

birdman941 · 04-30-2007, 05:29 PM

I think Jr. is 10x the driver his old man was.
Sr. couldn't pass anyone without hitting them.
All those years of purposely messing with Bill who nearly always drove CLEAN.
I still remember Sr. as Ironhead.

dcpatters · 04-30-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

GORDON IS A LITTLE EGOTISTICAL AZZ! His "little bigman" syndrome led him to screw around on his beautiful first wife. I don't give a flying f how good a driver he is, he'll never amount to a dang thing in my book.

Oh Sh!t a Jeff Gordon bash! Subscribed

I am a Dale Jarrett fan. Although it pains me to watch the races now.

was he thinking by moving to Toyota. To say he is struggling would not even be an understatement

birdman941 · 04-30-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dcpatters

Oh Sh!t a Jeff Gordon bash! Subscribed

I am a Dale Jarrett fan. Although it pains me to watch the races now.

was he thinking by moving to Toyota. To say he is struggling would not even be an understatement

Jarrett is a clean driver.
Very clean.
All washed up and everything........................

machths · 04-30-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman941

Jarrett is a clean driver.
Very clean.
All washed up and everything........................

D@mn! No mercy.:LAUGH:

pic18 · 04-30-2007, 06:21 PM

Gordon got into this sport young, and had a lot of success young. We've seen him grow up a lot over the years. I can't understand people hating him anymore. 12 years after his first championship, he's still driving hard and winning races. I believe Dale Sr. is proud of him.

birdman941 · 04-30-2007, 06:29 PM

I was in Charlotte, N.C. when the booing started.
It was the week of the first Night Winston race. (One Hot Night they called it)
It was the Winston that Davey won crashing with Kyle Petty at the finish.

Anyway, Jeffy was driving the Baby Ruth Tbird for Bill Davis Racing.
Ford had helped Jeffy through Daytona, etc. and had sent engineering help
to his team.
This was back when the Busch series was running V6's. (annoying bumblebee sound)
Ford and Jeffy had a handshake deal where Ford would move him up
to (then) Winston Cup when he and Bill Davis were ready.
Well, convicted felon Rick Hendrick offered Jeffy
a ton of money to jump ship, and Jeffy did.
He did not go to Ford or Bill Davis and say
"Hey you guys have helped me, and I got this offer.
Match it.....".
That didn't happen,
He just signed and the deal was done.
Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think)
and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race.
The press was all over him and so were the fans for
not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford.
Legal, yeah.
Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly?
Heck no.
Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be.

dcpatters · 04-30-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

I was in Charlotte, N.C. when the booing started.
It was the week of the first Night Winston race. (One Hot Night they called it)
It was the Winston that Davey won crashing with Kyle Petty at the finish.

Anyway, Jeffy was driving the Baby Ruth Tbird for Bill Davis Racing.
Ford had helped Jeffy through Daytona, etc. and had sent engineering help
to his team.
This was back when the Busch series was running V6's. (annoying bumblebee sound)
Ford and Jeffy had a handshake deal where Ford would move him up
to (then) Winston Cup when he and Bill Davis were ready.
Well, convicted felon Rick Hendrick offered Jeffy
a ton of money to jump ship, and Jeffy did.
He did not go to Ford or Bill Davis and say
"Hey you guys have helped me, and I got this offer.
Match it.....".
That didn't happen,
He just signed and the deal was done.
Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think)
and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race.
The press was all over him and so were the fans for
not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford.
Legal, yeah.
Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly?
Heck no.
Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be.

Sounds similar to Kasey Kahne's deal. If I recall, he was bound to the Ford camp too.

dcpatters · 04-30-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

Jarrett is a clean driver.
Very clean.
All washed up and everything........................

Yep, it's a shame. Going to go out just like Daryl Waltrip, riding around in the back of the pack his last few years.

Thunderbolt · 04-30-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

I was in Charlotte, N.C. when the booing started.
It was the week of the first Night Winston race. (One Hot Night they called it)
It was the Winston that Davey won crashing with Kyle Petty at the finish.

Anyway, Jeffy was driving the Baby Ruth Tbird for Bill Davis Racing.
Ford had helped Jeffy through Daytona, etc. and had sent engineering help
to his team.
This was back when the Busch series was running V6's. (annoying bumblebee sound)
Ford and Jeffy had a handshake deal where Ford would move him up
to (then) Winston Cup when he and Bill Davis were ready.
Well, convicted felon Rick Hendrick offered Jeffy
a ton of money to jump ship, and Jeffy did.
He did not go to Ford or Bill Davis and say
"Hey you guys have helped me, and I got this offer.
Match it.....".
That didn't happen,
He just signed and the deal was done.
Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think)
and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race.
The press was all over him and so were the fans for
not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford.
Legal, yeah.
Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly?
Heck no.
Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be.

Yep, sounds like a Gordon move. Just like yesterday when at the driver's meeting he was crying about bump drafting, and in the race I saw him doing more bump drafting than anyone. "Do as I say, not as I do" I guess.

birdman941 · 04-30-2007, 07:27 PM

Actually, convicted felon Rick Hendrick did the same thing
with Ken Schrader only he did it to Junie Donleavey.(sp)

G · 04-30-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Yep, sounds like a Gordon move. Just like yesterday when at the driver's meeting he was crying about bump drafting, and in the race I saw him doing more bump drafting than anyone. "Do as I say, not as I do" I guess.

The normal rules don't apply to Gordon, Johnson, and Stewart. Haaaa don't drive for the cat in the hat or the rules apply double. I don't know that JJ might be a good person but he is associated with AzzClown Gordon. I like Robby Gordon better than jeffy.

dcpatters · 05-01-2007, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffav

The normal rules don't apply to Gordon, Johnson, and Stewart.

Now there's a clown, Tony Stewart. Aside from being a clown, a total nut case too!!!!

pic18 · 05-01-2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Yep, sounds like a Gordon move. Just like yesterday when at the driver's meeting he was crying about bump drafting, and in the race I saw him doing more bump drafting than anyone. "Do as I say, not as I do" I guess.

He asked if and how NASCAR was going to police bumpdrafting. Mike Helton said they were basicly leaving it up to the drivers unless anything got extreme. After hearing their answer, he raced within Mike's guidelines. Last year people were bumping badly. This year was much calmer.

ylopony · 05-01-2007, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Yep, sounds like a Gordon move. Just like yesterday when at the driver's meeting he was crying about bump drafting, and in the race I saw him doing more bump drafting than anyone. "Do as I say, not as I do" I guess.

Bash Gordon all you want. That's what's fun about being a fan of any sport. It's fun to root for your team or driver and bash the ones you hate.

But when you make opinion fact, have your facts straight first. He was not crying. Gordon spoke up and the drivers agreed with what Gordon had to say.

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ega/index.html

http://www.adelphia.net/sports/read....=auto%20racing

pic18 · 05-01-2007, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think)
and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race.
The press was all over him and so were the fans for
not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford.
Legal, yeah.
Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly?
Heck no.
Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be.

Pretend you are Jeff Gordon. Someone asks you what the one single smartest career choice you made was. What do you think it would be? How old was he then? 22? Did he have someone like his stepdad or manager helping him make those decisions? Was every decision you made at 22 the perfect choice? Lighten up.

birdman941 · 05-01-2007, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pic18

Pretend you are Jeff Gordon. Someone asks you what the one single smartest career choice you made was. What do you think it would be? How old was he then? 22? Did he have someone like his stepdad or manager helping him make those decisions? Was every decision you made at 22 the perfect choice? Lighten up.

Yeah, never mind integrity, which Jeffy has none.
Grow up.

pic18 · 05-01-2007, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941

Yeah, never mind integrity, which Jeffy has none.
Grow up.

Grow Up?

03mach69mach · 05-01-2007, 07:23 AM

Careful how you use the word integrety along with NASCAR. Here is the rule, learn it, love it and believe it, NASCAR is about one thing and one thing only....

MONEY!

ylopony · 05-01-2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03mach69mach

MONEY!

You hit the nail right on the head. Just about any one of us would have done the same thing if the $$$ were flashed in front of us. We see it every year in every sport, athletes with integrity, athletes without integrity, leave their teams to free agency and chase the last dollar. Why shouldn't they? A team will let them go without a warning themselves if they so choose.

Very few of us in our current jobs would not leave it in a heartbeat if someone was offering us far more money and a greater opportunity. Jeff Gordon did nothing that most of us wouldn't have done themselves. When you are an athelete or a driver it's a business, it's about the money.

ylopony · 05-01-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

He's still a tittybaby!!!!

<---------Jeffy!

Ok, now that's funny.

Perhaps we should add Tony Stewart to that list. Biggest whinner I've ever seen in any sport.

G · 05-01-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ylopony

Ok, now that's funny.

Perhaps we should add Tony Stewart to that list. Biggest whinner I've ever seen in any sport.

I'm nowhere close to being a Stewart or Gordon fan but the only thing I respect about them is their skill and that they HATE to lose.

If you show me a driver that's happy to just run with the Cup crowd but is ok with not winning. I'll show you someone who is acustomed to losing. I want my driver to never be happy with second but have normal reactions to stress. Look at Burton, Martin, Kenseth, and the other drivers with class.

EVEN Harvick is learning from Jeff Burton and growing up some.

birdman941 · 05-01-2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoffav

...............EVEN Harvick is learning from Jeff Burton and growing up some.

It's about time.

G · 05-01-2007, 01:21 PM

Wishing well to one of the greats in LMS and Busch racing.

Sam Ard

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ury/index.html

gvervoren · 05-02-2007, 05:49 PM

Look at what my wife caught me doing. Introducing NASCAR to my 4 month old son. He seems to like it.

04-30-2007, 05:29 PM	#452
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: NASCAR thread I think Jr. is 10x the driver his old man was. Sr. couldn't pass anyone without hitting them. All those years of purposely messing with Bill who nearly always drove CLEAN. I still remember Sr. as Ironhead. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

04-30-2007, 06:21 PM	#456
pic18 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cumberland,RI Posts: 590	Re: NASCAR thread Gordon got into this sport young, and had a lot of success young. We've seen him grow up a lot over the years. I can't understand people hating him anymore. 12 years after his first championship, he's still driving hard and winning races. I believe Dale Sr. is proud of him. __________________ Jeff's All American Car Page 2004 Black Mach1 Sold 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Magnetic Gray Metallic Sold 2009 Pontiac G8 GT Liquid Red 2011 Z71 Silverado

04-30-2007, 06:29 PM	#457
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: NASCAR thread I was in Charlotte, N.C. when the booing started. It was the week of the first Night Winston race. (One Hot Night they called it) It was the Winston that Davey won crashing with Kyle Petty at the finish. Anyway, Jeffy was driving the Baby Ruth Tbird for Bill Davis Racing. Ford had helped Jeffy through Daytona, etc. and had sent engineering help to his team. This was back when the Busch series was running V6's. (annoying bumblebee sound) Ford and Jeffy had a handshake deal where Ford would move him up to (then) Winston Cup when he and Bill Davis were ready. Well, convicted felon Rick Hendrick offered Jeffy a ton of money to jump ship, and Jeffy did. He did not go to Ford or Bill Davis and say "Hey you guys have helped me, and I got this offer. Match it.....". That didn't happen, He just signed and the deal was done. Jeffy won the Busch race (May 92 I think) and the entire grandstands booed him even though he won the race. The press was all over him and so were the fans for not being a gentleman about the business deal he had with Ford. Legal, yeah. Sportsmanlike or gentlemanly? Heck no. Jeffy is a POS in my mind and always will be. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

04-30-2007, 07:27 PM	#461
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: NASCAR thread Actually, convicted felon Rick Hendrick did the same thing with Ken Schrader only he did it to Junie Donleavey.(sp) __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

05-01-2007, 07:23 AM	#469
03mach69mach Ford Guy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 1,406	Re: NASCAR thread Careful how you use the word integrety along with NASCAR. Here is the rule, learn it, love it and believe it, NASCAR is about one thing and one thing only.... MONEY! __________________ Mark Blountville TN 1969 Winter Blue Mach 1 428CJ 1988 White LX 5.0 Convertible SOLD 2000 White Taurus SE 3.0 SOLD 2001 BMW 330i SOLD 2002 Harley F150 5.4 Supercharged 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 4.6 DOHC 2003 Lincoln Town Car 4.6 SOHC 2011 Infiniti G37xS 3.7 DOHC

05-01-2007, 01:21 PM	#474
G Undocumented Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 15,828	Re: NASCAR thread Wishing well to one of the greats in LMS and Busch racing. Sam Ard http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ury/index.html __________________ _____________________________________________ 2003 Mach1 AB 5spd 2004 Mach1 TR 5spd (sold) 1933 Ford 3W Coupe (4.6 dohc Stack Injection) 2003 Cobra TR (sold) 2014 Mustang GT (Track Pack) in Black

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