Trivia for today - Page 12 - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

02mach1 · 08-01-2003, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcongtho3
Next question; in '73, if you opted to get the Ram Air package on your Mustang what engine performance option was not available to you?

It could be stright six, but I think it was the 302 V8.

falcongtho3 · 08-01-2003, 08:36 PM

You could not get the inline 6 with ram air, but you could get it on a 302. I'll leave the question open for now, the key word is 'performance'.:THUMBSUP:

Frank · 08-01-2003, 09:00 PM

Four barrel carburator.

falcongtho3 · 08-03-2003, 07:18 PM

Right on the money, Frank! The only 351C you could get that year with the ram air package was the 2V version!

For today; The Drag Pak 428 Cobra Jet cars had both horns located on one side of the radiator. Why?

Twister Special · 08-04-2003, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcongtho3
Right on the money, Frank! The only 351C you could get that year with the ram air package was the 2V version!

For today; The Drag Pak 428 Cobra Jet cars had both horns located on one side of the radiator. Why?

oil cooler lines went through radiator support where one horn was located on non drag pac car.

falcongtho3 · 08-08-2003, 09:33 PM

Right !

For today; what was the name of the exotic Autolite inline 4V carburetor that was used on the racing Boss 302's?

Twister Special · 08-08-2003, 09:51 PM

was it "cross boss"????

falcongtho3 · 08-09-2003, 08:45 AM

Yes, it was!:THUMBSUP:

Weekend bonus question: Ford built a 'street' version of the original GT-40, what was it called? Why is Ford not calling its' new supercar the GT-40, and how many are being built for the '03 model year and what does that number of cars commemorate?

FL Mach 1 · 08-10-2003, 11:26 PM

I know part of it. Ford isn't using the GT-40 cause someone already has a trademark on it. And they wanted a boatload of money for Ford to use the name so for just went with GT. I'll be nice and leave the rest for others. That and I don't know the answers

badjoey · 08-10-2003, 11:46 PM

aren't they only building 3 of the gt's?
as far as the rest my mind is going to sleep

falcongtho3 · 08-11-2003, 08:23 AM

The holder of the trade rights to "GT 40" (Safir Automotive)wanted $40 Million for the name. Ford offered 3 cars and $1 Million. No deal. Ford has built (see photo section under Ford 100) 3 cars in red, white, and blue for their 100th Anniversary to commemorate the 1-2-3 victory at LeMans.

badjoey · 08-11-2003, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcongtho3
The holder of the trade rights to "GT 40" (Safir Automotive)wanted $40 Million for the name. Ford offered 3 cars and $1 Million. No deal. Ford has built (see photo section under Ford 100) 3 cars in red, white, and blue for their 100th Anniversary to commemorate the 1-2-3 victory at LeMans.

i was going to say it was because of the lemans victory but i didn't want to get beat up if i was wrong-guess i'm chicken

AZDave · 08-11-2003, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falcongtho3

Weekend bonus question: Ford built a 'street' version of the original GT-40, what was it called?

Since the other questions have been answered, I'll take a shot at this part.
Was it "road coupe"?

falcongtho3 · 08-11-2003, 10:48 PM

The road version was called GT 40 Mk III, original ain't it? The fenders had to be modified so the headlights would be height requirements, so it wasn't as attrative as the competition cars.
And don't be affraid to answer...this isn't being graded, it's for fun and (heaven forbid) a chance to learn some cool trivia from each other...especially if some others would toss out some question, after seven pages of Q&A I'm starting to come up a little dry...:THUMBSUP: (And I don't want to get into the really trivial stuff like paint stripes on coil springs and the like...)

falcongtho3 · 09-12-2003, 11:06 PM

After so many (OK, one) requests, I'll do my best to keep this thing running a little longer. Feel free to put out your own trivia questions at if you feel like it!

For today; For the most part, when you optioned a particular engine in a classic Mustang you pretty much knew what to expect under the hood. In 1970 there was an engine option that could get you drastically different engines, even though, technically, either engine had the same displacement and carb. What was it?

69mach · 09-13-2003, 12:11 AM

AF-42,AF-32

Am I gettn warm?
:THUMBSUP:

Ed

falcongtho3 · 09-13-2003, 08:58 AM

Could beeeee...

(or C, or W):THUMBSUP:

69mach · 09-13-2003, 11:49 AM

falcongtho3,

Do you know what actually determined which of the two you would get?

Ed

falcongtho3 · 09-13-2003, 06:47 PM

The story I got was that the earlier cars had the 'W', while later in the years the 'C' was phased in. Other than that I've never seen any official statements. Kinda like the '67 Shelby inboard/outboard headlight thing...:THUMBSUP:

falcongtho3 · 09-14-2003, 01:54 PM

For those of you who were trying to keep up with this dissertation, the answer was; In 1970, if you ordered a Mustang with the 351-2V (standard in the Mach 1, optional ina ll other non-Boss Mustangs)you may have gotten a Cleveland engine or you may have gotten a Windsor engine. Even though these are totally different engines they shared displacement as well as even the same engine code in the VIN.

69mach · 09-14-2003, 03:04 PM

falcongtho3,
I was actually thinking that the H code 2V was only a Windsor and was the Standard Mach 1 engine, and that the M code 4V optional could be had as a 290 HP Windsor or 300HP Cleveland. Of course this was Fords choice not the buyer.

Side Note:
And where you only able to get a Windsor on the 69 & 70 Shelby GT 350 with a M code? I think so? Shelby sales were off for 69/70.(70's were just rebadged 69 correct ?)Could this explain maybe left overs for the regular production 70 Model year to be used up ? We just use Windsors and Clevelands both till we run out of Manifolds for the Windsors.

Would be curious to know if any late builds in 70 got 4V Windsors.(regular productions)
They were putting these in other models too.

Mach On
Ed

69mach · 09-14-2003, 03:11 PM

OK, here's my little bit of Trivia

What does the phrase "Too Young, Too Old, Just Right "

Have to do with Ford engine tuning?

Mach On
Ed

falcongtho3 · 09-14-2003, 09:06 PM

For '70, all 351-4Vs were Clevelands. 351-2Vs could be either. As far as the '69/'70 Shelbys, since the '70's were really only leftover '69's then they were all 351W's. The only Shelbyized Clevelands were the ultra-rare Shelby Europa in '71, and then only in Europe.
I've never seen a '70 with a 4V Windsor from the factory, and I cry 'uncle' as far as your question...I bow to others to answer this one...

AZDave · 09-14-2003, 10:45 PM

How about Ford 6cyl firing order? 1-5-3-6-2-4

69mach · 09-15-2003, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AZDave
How about Ford 6cyl firing order? 1-5-3-6-2-4

Very Good AZDave, :THUMBSUP:

I picked that up from my High School Auto Teacher, one of the few things that stuck. I have actually had to refer to it a number of times, and when working on cars too....

15 Too Young, 36 Too Old, 24 Just Right

Mach On
Ed

08-01-2003, 08:36 PM	#277
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	You could not get the inline 6 with ram air, but you could get it on a 302. I'll leave the question open for now, the key word is 'performance'.:THUMBSUP: __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-03-2003, 07:18 PM	#279
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	Right on the money, Frank! The only 351C you could get that year with the ram air package was the 2V version! For today; The Drag Pak 428 Cobra Jet cars had both horns located on one side of the radiator. Why? __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-08-2003, 09:33 PM	#281
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	Right ! For today; what was the name of the exotic Autolite inline 4V carburetor that was used on the racing Boss 302's? __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-08-2003, 09:51 PM	#282
Twister Special Shaken, Not Stirred Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Kansas Posts: 493	was it "cross boss"???? __________________ 03 Yellow mach 1 #395354

08-09-2003, 08:45 AM	#283
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	Yes, it was!:THUMBSUP: Weekend bonus question: Ford built a 'street' version of the original GT-40, what was it called? Why is Ford not calling its' new supercar the GT-40, and how many are being built for the '03 model year and what does that number of cars commemorate? __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-01-2003, 09:00 PM	#278
Frank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 63	Four barrel carburator.

08-10-2003, 11:26 PM	#284
FL Mach 1 Nitrous Lizard Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 1,149	I know part of it. Ford isn't using the GT-40 cause someone already has a trademark on it. And they wanted a boatload of money for Ford to use the name so for just went with GT. I'll be nice and leave the rest for others. That and I don't know the answers __________________ 1965 Mustang Convertible 200 cid 1965 Mustang Fastback 200 cid 1993 Mustang GT Convertible 2003 Azure blue Mach 1 member #13

08-10-2003, 11:46 PM	#285
badjoey former mach1 owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: bradford,pa Posts: 2,495	aren't they only building 3 of the gt's? as far as the rest my mind is going to sleep

08-11-2003, 08:23 AM	#286
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	The holder of the trade rights to "GT 40" (Safir Automotive)wanted $40 Million for the name. Ford offered 3 cars and $1 Million. No deal. Ford has built (see photo section under Ford 100) 3 cars in red, white, and blue for their 100th Anniversary to commemorate the 1-2-3 victory at LeMans. __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

08-11-2003, 10:48 PM	#289
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	The road version was called GT 40 Mk III, original ain't it? The fenders had to be modified so the headlights would be height requirements, so it wasn't as attrative as the competition cars. And don't be affraid to answer...this isn't being graded, it's for fun and (heaven forbid) a chance to learn some cool trivia from each other...especially if some others would toss out some question, after seven pages of Q&A I'm starting to come up a little dry...:THUMBSUP: (And I don't want to get into the really trivial stuff like paint stripes on coil springs and the like...) __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

09-12-2003, 11:06 PM	#290
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	After so many (OK, one) requests, I'll do my best to keep this thing running a little longer. Feel free to put out your own trivia questions at if you feel like it! For today; For the most part, when you optioned a particular engine in a classic Mustang you pretty much knew what to expect under the hood. In 1970 there was an engine option that could get you drastically different engines, even though, technically, either engine had the same displacement and carb. What was it? __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

09-13-2003, 12:11 AM	#291
69mach Lurker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 465	AF-42,AF-32 Am I gettn warm? :THUMBSUP: Ed __________________ Mach On Ed 2003 TorchRed Stick IUp

09-13-2003, 08:58 AM	#292
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	Could beeeee... (or C, or W):THUMBSUP: __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery Last edited by falcongtho3; 09-13-2003 at 09:06 AM.

09-13-2003, 11:49 AM	#293
69mach Lurker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 465	falcongtho3, Do you know what actually determined which of the two you would get? Ed __________________ Mach On Ed 2003 TorchRed Stick IUp

09-13-2003, 06:47 PM	#294
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	The story I got was that the earlier cars had the 'W', while later in the years the 'C' was phased in. Other than that I've never seen any official statements. Kinda like the '67 Shelby inboard/outboard headlight thing...:THUMBSUP: __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

09-14-2003, 01:54 PM	#295
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	For those of you who were trying to keep up with this dissertation, the answer was; In 1970, if you ordered a Mustang with the 351-2V (standard in the Mach 1, optional ina ll other non-Boss Mustangs)you may have gotten a Cleveland engine or you may have gotten a Windsor engine. Even though these are totally different engines they shared displacement as well as even the same engine code in the VIN. __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

09-14-2003, 03:04 PM	#296
69mach Lurker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 465	falcongtho3, I was actually thinking that the H code 2V was only a Windsor and was the Standard Mach 1 engine, and that the M code 4V optional could be had as a 290 HP Windsor or 300HP Cleveland. Of course this was Fords choice not the buyer. Side Note: And where you only able to get a Windsor on the 69 & 70 Shelby GT 350 with a M code? I think so? Shelby sales were off for 69/70.(70's were just rebadged 69 correct ?)Could this explain maybe left overs for the regular production 70 Model year to be used up ? We just use Windsors and Clevelands both till we run out of Manifolds for the Windsors. Would be curious to know if any late builds in 70 got 4V Windsors.(regular productions) They were putting these in other models too. Mach On Ed __________________ Mach On Ed 2003 TorchRed Stick IUp

09-14-2003, 03:11 PM	#297
69mach Lurker Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Evansville, Indiana Posts: 465	OK, here's my little bit of Trivia What does the phrase "Too Young, Too Old, Just Right " Have to do with Ford engine tuning? Mach On Ed __________________ Mach On Ed 2003 TorchRed Stick IUp

09-14-2003, 09:06 PM	#298
falcongtho3 Moderating at Mach 1 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, La. Posts: 16,278	For '70, all 351-4Vs were Clevelands. 351-2Vs could be either. As far as the '69/'70 Shelbys, since the '70's were really only leftover '69's then they were all 351W's. The only Shelbyized Clevelands were the ultra-rare Shelby Europa in '71, and then only in Europe. I've never seen a '70 with a 4V Windsor from the factory, and I cry 'uncle' as far as your question...I bow to others to answer this one... __________________ Krewe de la Mach Rouge #340804 13th Mach 1 built 11/07/02 Build Date 12/13/02 Delivery

09-14-2003, 10:45 PM	#299
AZDave FORD GUY Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ / Southlake,TX Posts: 185	What does the phrase "Too Young, Too Old, Just Right " How about Ford 6cyl firing order? 1-5-3-6-2-4 __________________ Torch Red 378403 my garage: 02/06/03, now in the caring hands of the "other Dave" '66 GT350H #1497 [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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