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07-05-2009, 05:15 PM | #2601 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
I missed the race but I did see highlights of the wreck. I say that was pretty much Kyles fault. Stewart shouldn't feel so bad about it.
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07-05-2009, 06:57 PM | #2602 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
You can guarantee if the table's were turned that Busch would have had no problem doing the same thimg, and then praising himself for winning.
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07-05-2009, 10:41 PM | #2603 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
I agree with that one! Tony was appologizing in Victory Lane and really showed remorse over what happened, even though he realyl wasn't at fault IMHO. But if Shrub had done it to him? Totally different story. The officials had to keep KB from going on to VL for a confrontation that would have probably shown that Tony hold his own...maybe they sould have let him go!
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07-06-2009, 10:45 AM | #2604 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
Tony was right for being remorseful. He hit the back of Kyle's car thus lifting the rear of the car causing Kyle to have to turn left to keep from wrecking. Granted he had no control of Kyle turning right but if he hadn't hit Kyle in the first place Kyle wouldn't have had to turn right.
I just wonder if Tony would have been leading with Kyle in second and the same thing happened if you guys would be saying Kyle was not at fault. The days of working to pass someone cleanly are gone. We've returned to the push them out of the way mentality. I'm am not a fan of Kyle or Toyota but the aftermath included the driver I like, so instead of spending money on research they have to rebuild a car. It's a real shame there aren't more drivers like Mark Martin that will wreck themselves before taking a chance that would wreck another car. Winning should not be put over the safety of others. If Tony hadn't bumped Kyle just before the incident I would agree that Tony shouldn't have been remorseful and it would have been all Kyle's fault but it didn't happen that way.
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07-06-2009, 12:11 PM | #2605 | |
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Let me be a little clearer for you. I can not stand Kyle or Toyota. I just commented that Tony was right to be remorseful for what happened because he helped cause it.
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07-06-2009, 12:16 PM | #2606 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
It's not blocking anymore when the other guy is beside you instead of behind you. I would have done the same thing and not had any remorse.
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07-06-2009, 01:31 PM | #2607 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
Agree totally. Stewart would have taken a 2nd if the rolls were reversed. Just look at his performance this year --- very adult. It's like he's the team owner or something. I'm no Stewart fan but if he takes the championship this year I will be happy for him.
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07-06-2009, 06:06 PM | #2608 | |
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ITS F'ING RACING AND YES SHRUB WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING! DO YOU NOT WATCH ANY RACES? |
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07-06-2009, 08:29 PM | #2609 | |
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07-06-2009, 08:48 PM | #2610 | |
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I'm glad he was not killed, do you feel better now? |
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07-06-2009, 10:07 PM | #2611 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
The new car has made NASCAR utterly boring. But boy they can take one hell of a hit! Can't stand the Shrub and I thought it was awesome that he was whacked, but it's a true testament to the car that the only thing injured on him was his pride.
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Where did I say it was Tony's fault for Kyle turning right. Tony had a hand in what happened because he hit the back of Kyles car causing the rearend to shift to the right which made Kyle go left at which point Kyle turned back right. I said Kyle may not have had to turn right if Tony wouldn't have hit him. I still have yet to hear anyone say it would have just been racing if the roles were reversed. Al I heard was that Kyle would have done the same thing. Tony showed he is a true driver by apologizing for his part of what happened which to me was the right thing to do.
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07-06-2009, 10:54 PM | #2613 |
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Do you actually think Kyle would have apologized if the roles were reversed?
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07-07-2009, 05:25 AM | #2614 |
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07-07-2009, 08:09 AM | #2615 | |
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07-07-2009, 08:22 AM | #2616 |
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Re: NASCAR thread
Since when do we base what is right on what some ***hole would do?
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07-07-2009, 03:23 PM | #2617 |
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Were you on the Debating team in high school or something? It does'nt get any clearer than what's been explained already. You're just playing dumbazz word games.
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07-07-2009, 11:00 PM | #2618 | |
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07-08-2009, 08:24 AM | #2619 | |
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I realize bumping has been part of racing for awhile now, that doesn't mean I have to like it. If you have to take the air off of someone's car or bump them to pass then your car isn't that much better than theirs. Either pass them cleanly or stay behind them. Having to repair a car because someone couldn't pass you cleanly sucks. That's time and money that could be better spent. I'm referring to personal experience, not this event. Another thing I realize is that this conversation is about as relevant as the event that started. You're not going to change my point of view and I have no desire to change yours. I still feel Tony did the right thing in Victory Lane.
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07-08-2009, 08:45 AM | #2620 |
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I don't care for either of these drivers, so I don't feel that I'm being biased in what I saw and what almost all of the commentators and media saw; Kyle Busch blocked Stewart at 200 miles an hour with Stewart next to him. I really have no idea where Stewart could have put that car once Kyle made that move. The bottom line is week in and week out without fail Kyle Busch is always and I say always in some kind of controversy because of aggressive driving on the track.
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07-10-2009, 05:15 PM | #2621 |
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I am surprised this thread isn't blowing up again after last night's press conference. Did anyone else think he was acting like a petulant sniveling little punk or was it just me?
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07-10-2009, 05:33 PM | #2622 |
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07-10-2009, 05:47 PM | #2623 |
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oh yea he hasn't lean let.
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07-10-2009, 05:52 PM | #2624 |
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