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01-23-2019, 12:59 PM | #1 |
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Rack and pinion “build”
So my plan, so far, is to go with the Summit rack and pinion (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-22-2000/), Steeda bump steer kit (https://www.steeda.com/steeda-mustan...-555-8104.html) and, possibly, urethane or billet Steeda offset rack bushings. My original plan was to go with the LMR rack and pinion kit (https://lmr.com/item/LRS-3504E-K/mus...-rack-kit-9904), but at $369.99, I can get all of the above mentioned for just under the cost of the LMR rack kit! At the moment my front suspension consists of H&R race springs and some OLD Koni struts. I have some tubular lower control arms that I bought from a member here (brtnstrns) almost 5 years back that I never got around to installing because they require coil overs. So guess what, once the rack and pinion “project” is done, I’m FINALLY gonna get some coil overs! Lol I’m also interested in the Steeda X2 ball joints, but the tubular lowers I have are brand new, so I kinda don’t want to swap out a brand new ball joint unless it’s absolutely necessary. I don’t have money galore to throw around, so the coil over/lowers project probably won’t be for another couple months from now, but by then, who knows, I may have some extra cash to throw at those X2?! Anyway, what does everyone think? Am I missing anything? Perhaps I’m overlooking something? Any help, tips, and advice is much appreciated! Thanks!
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01-23-2019, 03:38 PM | #2 |
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Re: Rack and pinion “build”
Forget the ball joints and offset rack bushings.
By the way what are you going to do with this car?
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01-23-2019, 04:26 PM | #3 |
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Re: Rack and pinion “build”
It’s my daily driven car that I want lowered with a suspension I can have fun with on the freeway, street and track (straight line and twisties). I can see xinay’ing the ball joints, but why the offset rack bushings? Are they really not worth it? More “hype” than anything else?!
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01-23-2019, 06:54 PM | #4 |
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Re: Rack and pinion “build”
And that’s what I want at the moment, it being my daily. Once I have a devoted daily, I plan on either building/stroking my motor, or swapping in a different motor. Either way, I plan on adding boost, a pair of twins or possibly twin screw, but that’s waaay later into the future. I want to enjoy my car as my daily as it sits at the moment. My rear suspension is almost completely “built.” I’ve got MM lowers, adjustable uppers, 31 spline axels, 4.56s, cobra posi, extended wheels studs and I believe that about covers it. One thing I do know I need are sub frame connectors for sure! Not sure if I need a pan hard bar tho, but that’s not on my list at the moment anyway.
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01-24-2019, 08:24 AM | #5 |
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Just installing every part on the market does not make the car better. You can easily spend tons of cash and have a car that's good at nothing, no fun to drive, unreliable and a money pit. For one, offset rack bushings create a problem that wasn't there to start with. I suggest you go to the MM website and spend some time reading in their FAQ/tech sections. You will save yourself lots of problems.
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Oh, and word on the shop info?! I don’t plan on getting rid of my stock rack, would love to have it rebuilt and put away for the future
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01-24-2019, 05:45 PM | #8 |
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That’s awesome, really appreciate it!!
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01-24-2019, 06:15 PM | #9 |
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Re: Rack and pinion “build”
yup. and chasing too much hp can easily become another ruiner of a perfectly good car, especially when not done by pros or people who are extremely competent in the shop and have the resources and dedication to see the project all the way out.
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01-25-2019, 08:16 AM | #10 |
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The name of that rebuilder is Turn One and I just looked at their website. Looks like they are exactly who we are looking for when it's time for a rebuild.
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01-26-2019, 01:15 AM | #13 |
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I’m gonna give them a call. Only reason I’m leaning towards the Summit rack is because I just started working on the 2nd of this month (after having gone back to school for about 2 1/2 years), and being that the Mach is my daily, I can’t afford for it to be down for long. If I get the Summit unit, I can take a day or two to install it, whereas if I ship it, it’s gonna take who knows how long until I’m able to install it. I do hear you on the seals drying out over time, makes sense.
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Ok! So after reading through their site and giving Turn One a call, for the circumstances I’m in at the moment, I’m going to have to go with the Summit unit. Nothing bad or “wrong” with the company, they seem to be a great quality shop! For me, as I mentioned earlier, it comes down to time and cost. This is straight from their site:
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So with that being said, I’m looking at the Summit rack and pinion, MM solid rack bushings for a stock k-member, and either MM bumpsteer kit or Steeda bumpsteer kit. Which is better, Steeda or MM? Or would it be best to stick with one company and go MM for everything?
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Nice! I would have definitely gone that route if I had a back up car!
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Good to know! Is there anything else I should get/do while I’m at it?
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Have you done SFCs and K member brace?
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Put the stock rear UCAs back on and get a PHB.
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Not yet, but SFCs are on my to do list! As far as a k member brace, I’ve never heard of doing that, I was planning on going with an MM k member in the future.
I don’t have the stock uppers, they’re long gone (when I started piecing things together, I was geared towards 8th/quarter mile racing in mind). PHB will have to be added to my list!
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What’s the benefit/advantage of stock uppers over adjustable uppers?
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Just a friendly reminder to go to the MM website and start reading. 99.9% of your current and future questions will be answered and explained. You also seem to be getting some things out of order. MM will address the order you should do mods.
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