Finally started the build! - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

SparksMach1 · 01-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Just got back from the shop (horsepower by herman) and bought my block, got the BOSS 5.0 modular.
Going with 9.2:1 compression, and matched with a small KB or 2.3 whipple, haven't decided yet, going to keep it low power, around 550 to the wheels. Soon to follow is the T-56 Magnum with the 2.97 1st ratio and some custom comp blower cams similar to the stage 3's.

Putting the Mach on the lift tonight or tomorrow morning at my buddies house to drop the motor/k-member and send it off to the machine shop.

More info to follow as the build continues.

halemach1 · 01-07-2011, 02:09 PM

Whipple ftw!

JDWmustangs · 01-07-2011, 02:11 PM

Sounds awsome, whipple all the way!!!

Mach828 · 01-07-2011, 02:32 PM

Twin 57s

Scott McClure · 01-07-2011, 03:34 PM

Why an expensive block only to keep the power around 550?

YellowMenace · 01-07-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

Why an expensive block only to keep the power around 550?

What he said. I'm about 550 with an iron 4.6 block bored and stroked. Probably could have gotten there without the boring even.

quikcobra · 01-09-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach828

Twin 57s

+2 but he wants to stay around 550 rwhp so no need for the turbo's.

SparksMach1 · 01-09-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure

You can throw all the money you have into it and build it as strong as humanly possible, that still wont guarantee something wont break. Again your spending an awful lot of money on a block that you don't plan on pushing too it's limits.

Yeah I agree with you Scott, but it seems logically that if i buy the best parts available, it should not only hold a ton of power, but also have the longevity that i'm looking for.

orangemach23 · 10-20-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SparksMach1

Just got back from the shop (horsepower by herman) and bought my block, got the BOSS 5.0 modular.
Going with 9.2:1 compression, and matched with a small KB or 2.3 whipple, haven't decided yet, going to keep it low power, around 550 to the wheels. Soon to follow is the T-56 Magnum with the 2.97 1st ratio and some custom comp blower cams similar to the stage 3's.

Putting the Mach on the lift tonight or tomorrow morning at my buddies house to drop the motor/k-member and send it off to the machine shop.

More info to follow as the build continues.

Awesome build man! I am jealous and Whipple FTW!!!!! Keep us posted once it's all done and running!!!!

Brain · 11-13-2011, 11:53 PM

It took me 6 months to get my machine work done by an uncles friend. I think these guys only do overtime on their own projects. Not much respect for the customer.

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SparksMach1 · 11-22-2011, 07:28 PM

Called the shop again today.... they said the machine shop is closed all this week for the holidays??? So pretty much it will be week 4 since they got the cams and before I get the stuff back from the machine shop.... can anybody tell me that has done this before, how long does it take to put cams in heads? I don't think it would take any more than an hour.... and if the performance shop is planning on putting the engine together (short block and heads are apparently done and already assembled, minus dropping the cams in) why would we be waiting for the machine shop to drop 4 cams in the heads if he has the knowledge to put the entire engine together? Is it some kind of complex process? He said he is going to degree them in and everything during the assembly process. I think it's a stall technique that he's using because of some other issue.

So 4 weeks to do what I assume is an hour job. FML

Stopsign32v · 11-22-2011, 08:13 PM

Welcome to the world of having other people build a motor for you. Just relax and look forward to it, it will be worth the wait.

If you are close by stop by the shop. If you aren't close by then that's your main problem. Here is a short story...

I drove my car down 8 hours to a shop in Florida to have a turbo kit installed. 2 months later I was PISSED and said if something wasn't done I was going to come get the car how it sat and pay them nothing. They hurried and a week later I got a phone call that the car was done by the owner's wife. The next day at 11am I was at the airport in Florida in a taxi to get my car. I get there and he says "What are you doing here? Your car isn't done...the transmission mount doesn't line up, the hood wont close, and some other stuff. I basically told him "Well it better get done because I'm driving this thing home". He finished it while I was there and on the way home in Savannah my charge pipe blew off in the fender. I had no tools and had to fix it with my keys. Just calm down and take a breather...it can be worse.

chernandez88 · 11-25-2011, 02:01 PM

I waited 4 months to get my cams in a motor as well in a machine shop. So the guy who did my last motor is a reputable mechanic and he assembled it himself. Its hard to find someone like him, he promised me the car on a specific day and he worked the last days on it till about 12 pm at night so he can meet the deadline and he didn't charge a penny extra. But if your motor is in a machine shop, don't rush to much, especially when it comes to timing the motor, a dumb mistake and it will cost you to pull out the motor and spend extra bucks. Also make sure you never pay the whole amount of money upfront if not they will take their sweet time.

XSELLR8 · 11-27-2011, 02:33 AM

^^^^

I've had issues like that when I had a quarter panel replaced on my 97 Stang. If you thought they treated your car like it wasn't their own in the first place, you don't want to put a fire under them and have it get slapped together. I DO, however, understand your frustration of unnecessary delays!
Sorry to hear about the stolen transmission

Any reason you went with the Boss block over another option? Sounds like weight and durability were important, but the Boss isn't a blown car, so I'm just curious what info you found out to make your decision i.e price, you liked the name Boss, it was rated at 800 HP etc.

SparksMach1 · 11-28-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chernandez88

I waited 4 months to get my cams in a motor as well in a machine shop. So the guy who did my last motor is a reputable mechanic and he assembled it himself. Its hard to find someone like him, he promised me the car on a specific day and he worked the last days on it till about 12 pm at night so he can meet the deadline and he didn't charge a penny extra. But if your motor is in a machine shop, don't rush to much, especially when it comes to timing the motor, a dumb mistake and it will cost you to pull out the motor and spend extra bucks. Also make sure you never pay the whole amount of money upfront if not they will take their sweet time.

its funny, the guy is just putting the cams in the heads, he isn't degreeing them or anything, just literally placing the cams in the heads. that seems like the easy part!

01-07-2011, 01:41 PM	#1
SparksMach1 Shitin 'n Gitin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 1,416	Finally started the build! Just got back from the shop (horsepower by herman) and bought my block, got the BOSS 5.0 modular. Going with 9.2:1 compression, and matched with a small KB or 2.3 whipple, haven't decided yet, going to keep it low power, around 550 to the wheels. Soon to follow is the T-56 Magnum with the 2.97 1st ratio and some custom comp blower cams similar to the stage 3's. Putting the Mach on the lift tonight or tomorrow morning at my buddies house to drop the motor/k-member and send it off to the machine shop. More info to follow as the build continues. __________________ 2003 AB Mach -- 442/435 @ the rear ALL MOTOR -Race Gas FRPP BOSS 5.0 block, 10.6:1 compression, Manley H-Beams; Diamond flat-top pistons, P&P heads W/ 5-angle valve job & ARP Head studs, PP upper/lower intake, Comp Stage 2 N/A cams, FR500 springs, valves, and followers, Tube K with coilovers and Bilsteins, Kooks, Stingers, 2.97 T-56 Magnum, 31 Spline Superior axles & Auburn-pro dif, built battle boxes, KB BAP w/ 39lb injectors, and 4:10's.

01-07-2011, 02:09 PM	#2
halemach1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: fordyce, arkansas Posts: 735	Re: Finally started the build! Whipple ftw!

01-07-2011, 02:11 PM	#3
JDWmustangs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 254	Re: Finally started the build! Sounds awsome, whipple all the way!!!

01-07-2011, 02:32 PM	#4
Mach828 Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,759	Re: Finally started the build! Twin 57s __________________ Vortech V2 S-trim, E85, A2A Treadstone, Comp cams, built engine, full exhaust, built rear, built 4r70, more mods. Tuned by me with SCT Advantage

01-07-2011, 03:34 PM	#5
Scott McClure Mach1 member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: East Haven, CT Posts: 3,349	Re: Finally started the build! Why an expensive block only to keep the power around 550? __________________ 2011 Mustang GT Grabber Blue Automatic 2003 Mach 1 Whipple 2.3 718 rwhp 735 rwtq @25 psi SOLD

11-13-2011, 11:53 PM	#10
Brain I drive it! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Medina, TX Posts: 550	It took me 6 months to get my machine work done by an uncles friend. I think these guys only do overtime on their own projects. Not much respect for the customer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Brain Best 1/4 12.005@111.85 with 1.660 60' Best 60' 1.606 306 rwhp 317 rwtq 06 Mach1 Shootout Bracket 1st Place 06 Mach1 Shootout Super Street N/A 1st Place Sorry Dan, you have to enter the class to win. 05 Mach 1 Shootout Super Street N/A 1st Place 04 Mach 1 Shootout 8.0 ET 1st Place 04 Mach 1 Shootout Fastest Mach 1 04 Turbo Mustang Shootout 3rd Place 12.0 sec

11-22-2011, 07:28 PM	#11
SparksMach1 Shitin 'n Gitin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 1,416	Re: Finally started the build! Called the shop again today.... they said the machine shop is closed all this week for the holidays??? So pretty much it will be week 4 since they got the cams and before I get the stuff back from the machine shop.... can anybody tell me that has done this before, how long does it take to put cams in heads? I don't think it would take any more than an hour.... and if the performance shop is planning on putting the engine together (short block and heads are apparently done and already assembled, minus dropping the cams in) why would we be waiting for the machine shop to drop 4 cams in the heads if he has the knowledge to put the entire engine together? Is it some kind of complex process? He said he is going to degree them in and everything during the assembly process. I think it's a stall technique that he's using because of some other issue. So 4 weeks to do what I assume is an hour job. FML __________________ 2003 AB Mach -- 442/435 @ the rear ALL MOTOR -Race Gas FRPP BOSS 5.0 block, 10.6:1 compression, Manley H-Beams; Diamond flat-top pistons, P&P heads W/ 5-angle valve job & ARP Head studs, PP upper/lower intake, Comp Stage 2 N/A cams, FR500 springs, valves, and followers, Tube K with coilovers and Bilsteins, Kooks, Stingers, 2.97 T-56 Magnum, 31 Spline Superior axles & Auburn-pro dif, built battle boxes, KB BAP w/ 39lb injectors, and 4:10's.

11-22-2011, 08:13 PM	#12
Stopsign32v Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 2,554	Re: Finally started the build! Welcome to the world of having other people build a motor for you. Just relax and look forward to it, it will be worth the wait. If you are close by stop by the shop. If you aren't close by then that's your main problem. Here is a short story... I drove my car down 8 hours to a shop in Florida to have a turbo kit installed. 2 months later I was PISSED and said if something wasn't done I was going to come get the car how it sat and pay them nothing. They hurried and a week later I got a phone call that the car was done by the owner's wife. The next day at 11am I was at the airport in Florida in a taxi to get my car. I get there and he says "What are you doing here? Your car isn't done...the transmission mount doesn't line up, the hood wont close, and some other stuff. I basically told him "Well it better get done because I'm driving this thing home". He finished it while I was there and on the way home in Savannah my charge pipe blew off in the fender. I had no tools and had to fix it with my keys. Just calm down and take a breather...it can be worse. __________________ 03 white Mach1 JLT RAI \| 1/2 spacer \| Catback \| 4.56s 7.76@87.8mph

11-25-2011, 02:01 PM	#13
chernandez88 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 510	Re: Finally started the build! I waited 4 months to get my cams in a motor as well in a machine shop. So the guy who did my last motor is a reputable mechanic and he assembled it himself. Its hard to find someone like him, he promised me the car on a specific day and he worked the last days on it till about 12 pm at night so he can meet the deadline and he didn't charge a penny extra. But if your motor is in a machine shop, don't rush to much, especially when it comes to timing the motor, a dumb mistake and it will cost you to pull out the motor and spend extra bucks. Also make sure you never pay the whole amount of money upfront if not they will take their sweet time. __________________ 2004-Torch Red 5 Speed W/ IUP Single 74mm Borg Warner S400 980HP-925TQ @ 25.8PSI & 15 degree Timing

11-27-2011, 02:33 AM	#14
XSELLR8 Mach-o-holic Join Date: May 2010 Location: La La Land Posts: 1,276	Re: Finally started the build! ^^^^ I've had issues like that when I had a quarter panel replaced on my 97 Stang. If you thought they treated your car like it wasn't their own in the first place, you don't want to put a fire under them and have it get slapped together. I DO, however, understand your frustration of unnecessary delays! Sorry to hear about the stolen transmission Any reason you went with the Boss block over another option? Sounds like weight and durability were important, but the Boss isn't a blown car, so I'm just curious what info you found out to make your decision i.e price, you liked the name Boss, it was rated at 800 HP etc. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 TR 5 Speed IUP Bolt ons: You name it! 4.10s too 2004 Cobra Screaming Yellow 2.3L Whipple Gear install vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJrAIDCpbDI Clutch Replacement Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFr0Rur_EWc Wideband Install Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmL1KBmWyhg Last edited by XSELLR8; 11-27-2011 at 12:48 PM.

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