Intake Spacer prob - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

PhillyMach1 · 04-17-2006, 06:26 PM

I just installed the PHP intake spacer and when I went to start it up the engine shakes and smoke comes out of the exhaust and it doesn't run right, it sounds like air is coming out from some where in the engine, could it be the EGR? I didn’t get any check engine lights and I recheck ever thing that I disconnected and made sure it was connected. Any thoughts?

ThatsBAD06 · 04-17-2006, 06:37 PM

Maybe you didn't torque the bolts to spec and there's a leak?? Aside from that maybe the EGR valve is cracked but I really dunno.. have you check to see where the noise is coming from?

2k4mach · 04-17-2006, 06:46 PM

sounds like a vacum leak

PhillyMach1 · 04-17-2006, 06:49 PM

I just had my brother listen when I started the car up and its coming from the passenger side, near the back. Maybe the intake isnt sitting wright, but it looks ok to me, I am going to just take it apart again.

PhillyMach1 · 04-17-2006, 06:49 PM

How could i fix the vacum leak?

ThatsBAD06 · 04-17-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyMach1

I just had my brother listen when I started the car up and its coming from the passenger side, near the back. Maybe the intake isnt sitting wright, but it looks ok to me, I am going to just take it apart again.

If it's coming from over there then it's probally you either need to tighten the bolts down more or check the gaskets and make sure they aren't cracked. I hope you figure it out I know it's scary when you start up the car for the first time after doing stuff to it and it doesn't work right.

I set my accelerator cable wrong when I installed my spacer so when I started her up she was at WOT and i almost shat myself

threefitydotcom · 04-17-2006, 08:52 PM

This happend to me but my problem ended up being that i forgot to connect one of the hoses right next to the throttle body. Make sure you check all your hoses (you might not see if the first few times, looks good!)

But it still might be a install problem, is the sound very loud?

birdman941 · 04-17-2006, 09:01 PM

There's a vacuum hose that goes below the upper intake on the passenger side, and heads toward the RF inner fender apron.
It's 3/8" diameter and plugs right into the intake manifold.
It's direct Manifold vacum, and if it's off, it will do what you describe.
I really think this is the issue at hand.

PhillyMach1 · 04-17-2006, 09:09 PM

Thanks a lot for the info guys I had to stop working on it because it got dark, but tomorrow after school I will mess around with it again. threefitydotcom It is pretty loud.

JJPMach1 · 04-17-2006, 11:07 PM

Do yourself a favor and just take it all apart and start over. Maybe you missed something .

IZZY · 04-17-2006, 11:31 PM

Philly, you didn't mention if you replaced your EGR gasket. Sometimes when reused or damaged during install, a leak may occur at the EGR. Check all vac lines before disassembly. The fix may be as simple as reconnecting a vac line. Also, ensure all bolts are torqued in sequence to specs. Good luck.

PhillyMach1 · 04-17-2006, 11:36 PM

I am going to check to see if I missed any vac lines, if that don’t work I will go get a new EGR gasket, maybe a new intake gasket and then redo everything. The bolts should have been torque correctly because I used a torque wrench with inch-lbs.

threefitydotcom · 04-18-2006, 10:37 AM

i think they are supposed to be at 89 in/lbs

PhillyMach1 · 04-18-2006, 10:39 PM

Hey guys thanks for all the help, birdman941 hit it right on the head, I missed the hose because it was pushed down and looked connected. I didn't get to reconnect it yet; I was in school all day. Now I am going to install the JLT intake.

birdman941 · 04-18-2006, 10:43 PM

COOL!!
Glad to help.
Mach on.

04-17-2006, 06:26 PM	#1
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Intake Spacer prob I just installed the PHP intake spacer and when I went to start it up the engine shakes and smoke comes out of the exhaust and it doesn't run right, it sounds like air is coming out from some where in the engine, could it be the EGR? I didn’t get any check engine lights and I recheck ever thing that I disconnected and made sure it was connected. Any thoughts? __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-17-2006, 06:37 PM	#2
ThatsBAD06 The Thread Killer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Burke,VA Posts: 814	Re: Intake Spacer prob Maybe you didn't torque the bolts to spec and there's a leak?? Aside from that maybe the EGR valve is cracked but I really dunno.. have you check to see where the noise is coming from? __________________ 2004 Black Mach 1 297.77 RWHP & 320.27 RWTQ 1/4 mile: 13.230 @ 106.43, 1.979 60' 1/8 mile: 8.568 @ 84.54, 1.979 60' -MAC Catted Prochamber w/ Magnaflow MagnaPacks -Ported/Polished Intake & PHP Intake Spacer -K&N Drop In Air Filter w/ snorkel & maf screen removed -MGW Short Throw Shifter (Blue) -FRPP 4.10's & Aluminum Driveshaft -Moser 31 splines w/ Detroit Truetrac posi -Black Bullitts(17x9,10.5) wrapped in GSD3's (255x40x17 F 285x40x17 R)

04-17-2006, 06:46 PM	#3
2k4mach LuLz Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 19,294	Re: Intake Spacer prob sounds like a vacum leak __________________ 11 Sterling gray GT500 coupe 08 Silver Z06 1058rwhp/1073rwt @ 15psi 14 Silver Q50S Vortech blown 04 DSG Mach 1 (stolen) 03 OW Mach 1 (sitting in a field rotting away)

04-17-2006, 06:49 PM	#4
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Re: Intake Spacer prob I just had my brother listen when I started the car up and its coming from the passenger side, near the back. Maybe the intake isnt sitting wright, but it looks ok to me, I am going to just take it apart again. __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-17-2006, 06:49 PM	#5
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Re: Intake Spacer prob How could i fix the vacum leak? __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-17-2006, 08:52 PM	#7
threefitydotcom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 440	Re: Intake Spacer prob This happend to me but my problem ended up being that i forgot to connect one of the hoses right next to the throttle body. Make sure you check all your hoses (you might not see if the first few times, looks good!) But it still might be a install problem, is the sound very loud? __________________ Mods: Bassani Mid-Length Headers Bassani Off-Road X-Pipe Black 18" Saleen Wheels CobraBob's Shifter Gasket Set FRPP 4.10 Gears K&N Aircharger Intake Magnaflow Catback PHP Intake Spacer Pro 5.0 Shifter VMP Tuning Custom Tune Steeda Sport Springs Tokico D-Spec Struts/Shocks Pictures - www.threefity.com Best run (stock) : 13.81 at 103.27 12/05/06 - 13.07 at 108.45 w/ 2.0 60ft Vehicles : 03 Black Mustang Mach 1 (Fun / Project Car) 94 Red BMW 318i (Daily Driver)

04-17-2006, 09:01 PM	#8
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: Intake Spacer prob There's a vacuum hose that goes below the upper intake on the passenger side, and heads toward the RF inner fender apron. It's 3/8" diameter and plugs right into the intake manifold. It's direct Manifold vacum, and if it's off, it will do what you describe. I really think this is the issue at hand. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

04-17-2006, 09:09 PM	#9
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Re: Intake Spacer prob Thanks a lot for the info guys I had to stop working on it because it got dark, but tomorrow after school I will mess around with it again. threefitydotcom It is pretty loud. __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-17-2006, 11:07 PM	#10
JJPMach1 Red IS the Fastest !!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,071	Re: Intake Spacer prob Do yourself a favor and just take it all apart and start over. Maybe you missed something . __________________ Previous Cars 73 Mustang Convertible, sold this when I bought the Mach 84 T-bird 5.0 Fila edition 66 Mustang Convertible 289, Currently in my 15th year of this restoration project Current Mods: Magnaflow Cat Back system, C&L CAI & MAF, Steeda Shifter, Accufab Throttle Body, UPR firewall Adjuster & Quadrant, IAC Restrictor Plate, Diablo Custom Tune, PHP Intake Spacer, 03 Cobra IRS, Steeda Bushings & 4.10's Wishlist: Cams, FR 500 Intake, Port & polish

04-17-2006, 11:31 PM	#11
IZZY Lidia...merely a dream. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MIAMI, FL. Posts: 1,565	Re: Intake Spacer prob Philly, you didn't mention if you replaced your EGR gasket. Sometimes when reused or damaged during install, a leak may occur at the EGR. Check all vac lines before disassembly. The fix may be as simple as reconnecting a vac line. Also, ensure all bolts are torqued in sequence to specs. Good luck.

04-17-2006, 11:36 PM	#12
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Re: Intake Spacer prob I am going to check to see if I missed any vac lines, if that don’t work I will go get a new EGR gasket, maybe a new intake gasket and then redo everything. The bolts should have been torque correctly because I used a torque wrench with inch-lbs. __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-18-2006, 10:37 AM	#13
threefitydotcom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 440	Re: Intake Spacer prob i think they are supposed to be at 89 in/lbs __________________ Mods: Bassani Mid-Length Headers Bassani Off-Road X-Pipe Black 18" Saleen Wheels CobraBob's Shifter Gasket Set FRPP 4.10 Gears K&N Aircharger Intake Magnaflow Catback PHP Intake Spacer Pro 5.0 Shifter VMP Tuning Custom Tune Steeda Sport Springs Tokico D-Spec Struts/Shocks Pictures - www.threefity.com Best run (stock) : 13.81 at 103.27 12/05/06 - 13.07 at 108.45 w/ 2.0 60ft Vehicles : 03 Black Mustang Mach 1 (Fun / Project Car) 94 Red BMW 318i (Daily Driver)

04-18-2006, 10:39 PM	#14
PhillyMach1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 547	Re: Intake Spacer prob Hey guys thanks for all the help, birdman941 hit it right on the head, I missed the hose because it was pushed down and looked connected. I didn't get to reconnect it yet; I was in school all day. Now I am going to install the JLT intake. __________________ 1996 GT - sold 2003 DSG Mach 1: 297HP 321TQ SAE MGW shifter SLP Loudmouth and Catted Prochamber PHP Intake Spacer JLT CAI Coming soon: Built rear

04-18-2006, 10:43 PM	#15
birdman941 Torque wins! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 13,167	Re: Intake Spacer prob COOL!! Glad to help. Mach on. __________________ The ORIGINAL Project R build thread is back ! 5.4 32V NA Streetable 404/387 26.56 MPG "I don't like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders" Ted Nugent "A big engine hardly working is more efficient than a little engine screaming its head off" Jay Leno

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