Removing trans with kooks longtubes. - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club

my305pony · 07-31-2009, 09:50 AM

I was wondering if anyone has removed there trans with kooks longtubes installed without loosning them. my clutch finally decided to die on me and was wondering if there was a special way to position the trans or if it just dropped out... thanks in advance.

SparksMach1 · 07-31-2009, 12:40 PM

I'm wondering the same thing, at 57K on the stock clutch, I have a feeling mine is going quick!! I'm running Kooks longtubes too...

Stupid 3650.... why couldnt they have put the bolts that connect it to the bellhousing on the OUTSIDE so you could seperate the two and make it easier to take out????

R-code17815 · 07-31-2009, 12:47 PM

If I'm not mistaken you need to remove 1 header (either side)to get the room needed to get the trans out, one of the few drawbacks for long tube headers.

Mid-length headers don't need to be removed for clutch swaps.

T-56 6-speeds have the bellhousing seperate from the trans.

2k4mach · 07-31-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by R-code17815

If I'm not mistaken you need to remove 1 header (either side)to get the room needed to get the trans out, one of the few drawbacks for long tube headers.

Mid-length headers don't need to be removed for clutch swaps.

T-56 6-speeds have the bellhousing seperate from the trans.

KOOKS do NOT need to be removed to get the trans out........

SparksMach1 · 07-31-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2k4mach

KOOKS do NOT need to be removed to get the trans out........

This is what I've heard in the past.... but standing under my car on the lift I dont see how its possible to get a trans stand under there and move the transmission around without f-ing up the headers...

R-code17815 · 07-31-2009, 01:04 PM

LOL, It's always easier at a big decked out garage or, just have someone else do it for you....

R-code17815 · 07-31-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Dude..........if a dang SFI belled C-4 can fit without pulling the headers, a 3650 is cake!

I know what he's saying, I had to pull the Merge collectors off my mid-lengths, twist it a certain way and still had to use some persuasion to get my 3650 out...I guess it's just me?

SparksMach1 · 07-31-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by R-code17815

I know what he's saying, I had to pull the Merge collectors off my mid-lengths, twist it a certain way and still had to use some persuasion to get my 3650 out...I guess it's just me?

It wont drop straight down, I can see that much... the bellhousing is wider than the two closest pipes, so I'm going to have to hold that **** trans with my shoulder, and twist it around until I can fumble that POS out?? Jesus, sounds like I'm going to have a fun Saturday ahead of me haha...

SparksMach1 · 07-31-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Especially if you're doing it on your back!

Nah my buddy has a lift in his garage with a transmission stand and the all important set of air tools. Shouldn't be too bad.

SparksMach1 · 07-31-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Pretty easy job then

I'm just stumped on how I'm going to get the bellhousing to clear the headers/bottom of the car?? do i have to rotate it so the input shaft is facing up and then slide it back or do you have to turn the tail shaft towards the pass or drivers side of the car and then angle it down from there??
how would you guys do it?

R-code17815 · 08-02-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

Especially if you're doing it on your back!

LOL, thats how I did it, by the time I remembered the Bell was attached to the trans it to late, thank god T-56 have a separate bellhousing, now it's swapping a clutch on a 70's 2wd truck....

R-code17815 · 08-02-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by my305pony

I was wondering if anyone has removed there trans with kooks longtubes installed without loosning them. my clutch finally decided to die on me and was wondering if there was a special way to position the trans or if it just dropped out... thanks in advance.

How did this work out for ya?

my305pony · 09-02-2009, 02:32 PM

Attempting this right now. I cant get the second start bolt out though so im stumped. Any ideas on how to get to the bolt?

R-code17815 · 09-02-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by my305pony

Attempting this right now. I cant get the second start bolt out though so im stumped. Any ideas on how to get to the bolt?

A bunch of extensions and a swivel, go in from the front of your K-member, just be patient, it's a real prick.

weaver · 09-02-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by my305pony

Attempting this right now. I cant get the second start bolt out though so im stumped. Any ideas on how to get to the bolt?

You talkin bout the one on top of the starter? I used many extensions and went through the front of the k-member to get to it.

weaver · 09-02-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by R-code17815

A bunch of extensions and a swivel, go in from the front of your K-member, just be patient, it's a real prick.

i am a slowwww typer

my305pony · 09-02-2009, 02:49 PM

How many bolts hold the starter in? i dont remember from the header install. Im hoping its just these two.

CompOrange · 09-02-2009, 02:54 PM

Just takes a little patience with the starter bolds and a good set of long extensions and either a universal joint or my preferred method is with a wobble extension. They are cake after you do them a few times. Get well acquainted with them now as I'm sure you'll be taking them out again for one reason or another.

CompOrange · 09-02-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by my305pony

How many bolts hold the starter in? i dont remember from the header install. Im hoping its just these two.

Three buddy, three.

my305pony · 09-02-2009, 03:28 PM

i cant get these dang things. i broke two swivels already im gonna try jacking the engine up a little and see if that helps.

weaver · 09-02-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by my305pony

i cant get these dang things. i broke two swivels already im gonna try jacking the engine up a little and see if that helps.

If you have to get a new swivel buy a Kobalt one from Lowes. I put a breaker bar on my Kobalt swivel and it has held up to much abuse. Good luck.

my305pony · 09-09-2009, 02:25 PM

Anyone have any tricks to remove the pilot bearing?

weaver · 09-09-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder

grease under pressure

i can see him scratching his head now

no offense op

Ben99GT · 09-09-2009, 08:04 PM

I've done it in my driveway, I had to rotate the trans for the starter boss to clear the PS header, but it comes out pretty easily without loosening headers or even jacking up the engine.

07-31-2009, 09:50 AM	#1
my305pony Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 235	Removing trans with kooks longtubes. I was wondering if anyone has removed there trans with kooks longtubes installed without loosning them. my clutch finally decided to die on me and was wondering if there was a special way to position the trans or if it just dropped out... thanks in advance. __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1 IUP Born:6/24/03 JLT RAI MGW ShortThrow Roy's 1/2" Spacer Steeda Subframe Connectors Magnaflow Catback KOOKS Headers KOOKS Catted X Eibach Pro-kit Springs Awaiting Install FRPP 4.10 Coming Soon UPR Chrome-Moly K-member MM Caster/Camber Plates Speed Inc/Bob Kurgan xcal2 Tune Eaton?? Twins??

07-31-2009, 12:40 PM	#2
SparksMach1 Shitin 'n Gitin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 1,416	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. I'm wondering the same thing, at 57K on the stock clutch, I have a feeling mine is going quick!! I'm running Kooks longtubes too... Stupid 3650.... why couldnt they have put the bolts that connect it to the bellhousing on the OUTSIDE so you could seperate the two and make it easier to take out???? __________________ 2003 AB Mach -- 442/435 @ the rear ALL MOTOR -Race Gas FRPP BOSS 5.0 block, 10.6:1 compression, Manley H-Beams; Diamond flat-top pistons, P&P heads W/ 5-angle valve job & ARP Head studs, PP upper/lower intake, Comp Stage 2 N/A cams, FR500 springs, valves, and followers, Tube K with coilovers and Bilsteins, Kooks, Stingers, 2.97 T-56 Magnum, 31 Spline Superior axles & Auburn-pro dif, built battle boxes, KB BAP w/ 39lb injectors, and 4:10's.

07-31-2009, 12:47 PM	#3
R-code17815 The MODfather #7046 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 1,360	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. If I'm not mistaken you need to remove 1 header (either side)to get the room needed to get the trans out, one of the few drawbacks for long tube headers. Mid-length headers don't need to be removed for clutch swaps. T-56 6-speeds have the bellhousing seperate from the trans. __________________ R-code17815 2003 Mach1 6-spd. Black Black Sunshine... The never ending "Work in Progress" RTCTTFMF

07-31-2009, 01:04 PM	#6
R-code17815 The MODfather #7046 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bloomsburg, PA Posts: 1,360	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. LOL, It's always easier at a big decked out garage or, just have someone else do it for you.... __________________ R-code17815 2003 Mach1 6-spd. Black Black Sunshine... The never ending "Work in Progress" RTCTTFMF

09-02-2009, 02:32 PM	#13
my305pony Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 235	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. Attempting this right now. I cant get the second start bolt out though so im stumped. Any ideas on how to get to the bolt? __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1 IUP Born:6/24/03 JLT RAI MGW ShortThrow Roy's 1/2" Spacer Steeda Subframe Connectors Magnaflow Catback KOOKS Headers KOOKS Catted X Eibach Pro-kit Springs Awaiting Install FRPP 4.10 Coming Soon UPR Chrome-Moly K-member MM Caster/Camber Plates Speed Inc/Bob Kurgan xcal2 Tune Eaton?? Twins??

09-02-2009, 02:49 PM	#17
my305pony Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 235	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. How many bolts hold the starter in? i dont remember from the header install. Im hoping its just these two. __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1 IUP Born:6/24/03 JLT RAI MGW ShortThrow Roy's 1/2" Spacer Steeda Subframe Connectors Magnaflow Catback KOOKS Headers KOOKS Catted X Eibach Pro-kit Springs Awaiting Install FRPP 4.10 Coming Soon UPR Chrome-Moly K-member MM Caster/Camber Plates Speed Inc/Bob Kurgan xcal2 Tune Eaton?? Twins??

09-02-2009, 02:54 PM	#18
CompOrange PSR Mafia Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 2,011	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. Just takes a little patience with the starter bolds and a good set of long extensions and either a universal joint or my preferred method is with a wobble extension. They are cake after you do them a few times. Get well acquainted with them now as I'm sure you'll be taking them out again for one reason or another. __________________ 2010 Triumph Daytona 675 2003 Mach 1 - Azure Blue 5 speed Mostly stock...except for a few goodies

09-02-2009, 03:28 PM	#20
my305pony Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 235	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. i cant get these dang things. i broke two swivels already im gonna try jacking the engine up a little and see if that helps. __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1 IUP Born:6/24/03 JLT RAI MGW ShortThrow Roy's 1/2" Spacer Steeda Subframe Connectors Magnaflow Catback KOOKS Headers KOOKS Catted X Eibach Pro-kit Springs Awaiting Install FRPP 4.10 Coming Soon UPR Chrome-Moly K-member MM Caster/Camber Plates Speed Inc/Bob Kurgan xcal2 Tune Eaton?? Twins??

09-09-2009, 02:25 PM	#22
my305pony Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 235	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. Anyone have any tricks to remove the pilot bearing? __________________ 2003 DSG Mach 1 IUP Born:6/24/03 JLT RAI MGW ShortThrow Roy's 1/2" Spacer Steeda Subframe Connectors Magnaflow Catback KOOKS Headers KOOKS Catted X Eibach Pro-kit Springs Awaiting Install FRPP 4.10 Coming Soon UPR Chrome-Moly K-member MM Caster/Camber Plates Speed Inc/Bob Kurgan xcal2 Tune Eaton?? Twins??

09-09-2009, 08:04 PM	#24
Ben99GT 4V GT Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MS Posts: 1,205	Re: Removing trans with kooks longtubes. I've done it in my driveway, I had to rotate the trans for the starter boss to clear the PS header, but it comes out pretty easily without loosening headers or even jacking up the engine.

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