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I agree 100%. If you are too scared to go that fast, don't race then. Racing is about speed. I think if they flip their car over at 200 MPH compared to 220-230 MPH, it won't make much of a difference. Again I could be wrong but I think the result will be pretty much the same. I think Rusty reached just over 230 MPH without the plate when he was testing radio equipment last year.

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I wonder how effective the rear spoiler actually is on them cars.

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Can't see the Uncle Ben's stickers with those things on there.

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Bill Elliot hit 218 back in the mid 80s. Thats when the racing was interesting and the drivers actually had to drive the cars. Dont get what Im saying wrong,The drivers now are in better physical shape than ever before. But is that for their job or for the corporate sponsors?

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For those who didn't see the car of tomorrow.

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From what I recall, Lynn St. James, in an Elliott prepared 89 Tbird,
hit 217 at Talladega.
Bill hopped into it and hit 220.
I have met both drivers.
Really cool people.

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I think a little of both. With this new car coming out, I think it will put more emphasis on the driver and not so much on the car. We'll see how it goes. I think they are going to race it at Bristol next year but I feel they should try it at one of the restrictor plate and 1 1/2 mile tracks also. I'm not exactly sure on all the races the will race it on next year.

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June of 2004, Rusty Wallace hit 228 MPH (Average 221 MPH for entire lap) while doing a test to assure quality audio at high speeds. He says he figured they could hit 235 MPH with a little tweaking.

http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/head...ace_talladega/

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I think 235 or 240 would be very possible with the technology today.

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Oh yeah, I see those all the time on the highway. :rolleyses

They need to start STOCK CAR racing again. WTH are they thinking. :grr:

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Buy a car off the lot and race it. That's the way it used to be. That's the way it should be.

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No Toilettas that way.

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You've obviously never been to a race in the south...it'a religion. I'm not closing or warning anybody...I was making a funny! Mods do that too... :borg:

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I was in Atlanta. I figured out what you meant about it being a religion. I'm just a little slow sometimes. LOL

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i really dont watch enough tv to justify cable during the summer. then nbc takes over and puts all races on tnt pisses me off :23: . i hope there ratings are down way down

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TNT/NBC race coverage absolutely blows.
Time for pit stops!!
We'll be back after this hour of commercials!
FOX RULES!

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I actually was timing their commercials one day. It averaged out to be about every 10-11 minutes of racing and then the commercials came on. That was throughout the whole race. Kind of irritating. On NASCAR.com, someone asked the question and their reply was, "they are the sponsors and we have to have so much air time allotted for them" BS, They should do what I think is IRL does. They have split screen during commercial breaks. The race on one half and commercials on the other.

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I totally agree with you on the split screen deal. NASCAR put out some corporate blah-blah on its website about how it won't work! It's not like it's any different than that OTHER series who does do it...oh, wait...that's another network...:borg:

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How bout lets not and say we did... Face it, NASCAR is just not as good as it use to be. Esp with the foreign makes wanting to be apart of what use to be an American tradition. Now iam afraid it is spoiling my mood to even watch it anymore. It doesnt have that special intrest anymore when American automotive makers rival each other. As Americans.... this was our sport.... Not anymore more.

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Watch the first 50 laps.....ZZZZZZZZ........last 30 laps. I love the night races and Bristol is one bad azz night race. I would like more Left and Right races but I know I'm a minority on this.

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Your logic is fine, but part of the reason for the restrictor plates is to keep the cars out of the stands when they wreck.

Check this out...

http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsr...a/12800309.htm

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I knew the whole story behind it but remember, that was back in 1987 when aerodynamics were not very good and safety was no way like it is now days.. Now days the cars litteratly get sucked to the race track. They also have roof flaps, side windows and that little strip on the back window to keep them from flipping. Obviously it doesn't always work but if you flip a car over going 200 as compared to 225 or 230, I don't think the car is going to act much differently if it's going to fly in the air at them speeds. On the other hand, if they can figure something out like Newman said. Find a set-up where they would have to slow down in the corners. One way is that they could always put the roof rail back on and raise the rear spoiler like they do in the Busch series. I know alot of drivers liked that set-up. The restrictor plates gets them too bunched up and it makes it unsafe also. I think they should lose the plate and flatten the corners. Then they would naturally have to slow down for the corners and make for an exciting race just like back in the day. Just my $0.02

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The roof flaps do help, but they're not fool-proof. Remember Ryan Newman and Elliott Sadler both got some serious air time when they crashed recently. Plus, the article said that Bobby Allison blew his motor. It actually came apart, and it was the fact that he ran over a large chunk of it is what kicked his car up, off of the ground in the first place. There is no current safety feature on the cars today that would have changed anything in his scenario, therefore, slowing the cars down was the only "sure thing." I personally don't like the restrictor plates, I've been to Talladega, and I would love to see a race there where they were hitting 220+. Just one occurance though, that's all it would take. Could you imagine one of those sled's barrel-rolling down the main grandstand there. That lawsuit would be sooo big that both the track owner and probably NASCAR itself would never financially recover from that.

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I agree with you 100%. They should do like they did at Homestead but instead of making progressive banking, take some of the banking away. I know it would cost the track a lot of money but it would make it much safer. Besides the money shouldn't be a problem for the tracks, they make enough of it. LOL

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I was at the wind tunnel in mooresville doing some testing on my brothers camaro. The engineer at the wind tunnel said aerodynamicly the CAR OF TOMORROW is a piece of $h!t. It has alot of drag to slow the cars down.
Also that b/s that NASCAR gave everyone about it being cheaper to produce is a bunch of crap. The engineer said the have like 30k templates which include; the inner fender wells (as a rediculous example). Talk about not being able to get ahead. You wont be able to do anything to give your car an advantage.
Sorry for the rant but Nascar is making me lose intrest by the second and I used to watch it religously.

In my opinion; You know who is going to win the NEXTEL CUP this year; Whom ever NASCAR wants to win it.

Let the flaming begin.













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