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- - Official Whipple/KB/Eaton HP/TQ/mods thread: (http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=78452)

nickster

10-16-2009 11:26 AM

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my rwhp and tq is in my sig.:smokin:

d18urzr1

10-16-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure (Post 1062638)

Mine is a weekend only car. Sure it can be driven everyday. I still get low 20's for gas mileage when I dont get in it all the time. I had a Procharger before. Granted I only ran it on 11 lbs. of boost but my Whipple blows it away in every aspect. But I'm sure I'll get flamed for that.:12:

wtf procharger procarger better than whipple....thanks for reminding me i almost missed this post......id still love a swing at you with you using a strick pump gas tune no additives....

we both make the same power cheating using the torco mix and timing advance( unless you changed already from the 700)....pump gas to pump gas woman......any times yet for god sakes?

Scott McClure

10-16-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1 (Post 1212987)

You quoted my post that's 5 days short of a year there Sherlock. Time slips? Yep. Going to post them up here or any of the major boards and ruin my chances in area events? Not going to happen. Lets try and stay on topic here. You slowcharger, I mean Procharger guys have your own thread going.

Madmax305

10-16-2009 03:34 PM

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What's up with the procharger guys? Why are they always so defensive and quick to talk smack? Are they feeling inadequate with what they have? They need to keep the smack talk in there own dedicated forums. :butt:

Scott McClure

10-16-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmax305 (Post 1213062)

It's called envy Doyle.:23:

Madmax305

10-16-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure (Post 1213067)

It's called envy Doyle.:23:

I agree Scott! :smokin:

d18urzr1

10-16-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmax305 (Post 1213069)

I agree Scott! :smokin:

yes lets all get serious......lol and what do you mean ruin your chances???

vtecDIS

10-18-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McClure (Post 1213059)

u guys got the numbers, now you should run the 1/4 and settle this :gears:

d18urzr1

10-19-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vtecDIS (Post 1213678)

u guys got the numbers, now you should run the 1/4 and settle this :gears:

we would have to do it close to an air port so his car doesnt run out of race fuel lol.....plus his mom will kick him out of the house if he gets a speeding ticket lol

Scott McClure

10-19-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by d18urzr1 (Post 1213886)

we would have to do it close to an air port so his car doesnt run out of race fuel lol.....plus his mom will kick him out of the house if he gets a speeding ticket lol

No race gas here. Just 93 octane plus Torco. A race gas tune would have put me in the high 700's.:smokin:

Mister L

11-03-2009 05:18 PM

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UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

wesking1

11-03-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister L (Post 1218675)

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

Very nice

Scott McClure

11-03-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister L (Post 1218675)

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

Marty, spin that puppy would you?:claus:

Glad your happy.:3amin:

lxh89

11-03-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister L (Post 1218675)

UPDATE for Mister L: New motor, +.020, 9:1 Mahle, Comp Stage 3 blower grind, Whipple 2.3 with 3.0 upper, stock lower (13 psi) (17deg timing) ported heads, ARP Main and Head studs, balanced, Stock fuel rails, 60 pound injectors, stock 57mm throttle body, Kenne Belle Cold Air Kit, Stock 90mm meter w/MAFia, 1-5/8 JBA Midlengths, off-road ProChamber, Magnaflow, KB Boost a pump, Stock waterpump, dual core intercooler and a stock thermostat. Results: 617RWHP, 580 RWTQ on 93 pump gas. This with 410 gears. I'm happy!

9:1 compression, 3" upper and only 13psi of boost?

Tony

Scott McClure

11-04-2009 06:23 AM

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That's what I was thinking Tony. Marty any belt slip?

Mister L

11-04-2009 10:10 AM

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I did initially have belt slip (around 5800 rpm) and tried to find a better fitting belt, but I couldn't find one for a 3.5 upper so I changed to a 3.0 and a different belt that worked. With the 3.0 it increased my HP about 70 but the torque came up a hundred. I know I can run more boost but it has enough for me (at the moment) and I want some longevity out of this motor. With a 91 octane tune it still put down 600/575 with 15deg.

Dyno day sucked. Moved car from OKC via trailer to Dallas a few days prior. Dyno day had rain and I find out my wipers are inop and I'm driving in Dallas where I haven't a clue where I'm going and trying to follow someone to get me there. Car won't hardly run (WTF?) I'm having to work the clutch, throttle, hand brake and keep the RPMs about 1500 at a gazillion enroute stop signs! No cash on me so I can't take the tollway and my stress is peaked. Get on the dyno and my Xcal2 takes a dump. Buy a 3, start the car and the MAFia is broke, (no MAF signal and I get another one)..........lets just say the day was long and 'spensive! Sorry for the long post but that was one heck of a day. I drove the car back to OKC with a smile and I like the Comp cams.

Mister L

11-04-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lxh89 (Post 1218770)

9:1 compression, 3" upper and only 13psi of boost?

Tony

Is that odd? Should it be higher? With a 3.5 upper and stock lower I was only showing 9psi on my Boost gage. With the 3.0 it shows 13.....maybe I'm missing something............perhaps the loss is stage 3 cams or are you saying "Dude, WTF, Spin that MOFO! ?

lxh89

11-04-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister L (Post 1218882)

Your boost gauge is wrong then...Is an electronic gauge or mechanical? You should find a mechanical and verify.. I dont trust the electronic ones at all.

With a stock lower, 3" upper, 9:1 compression, you should be seeing 17-18 psi of boost. The fact you are running 17 degrees of timing implies 18 psi as thats a safe timing for that boost level.

Tony

Mister L

11-04-2009 11:24 AM

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Its electric....I should put a mechanical on it and see what it reads. Thanks Tony!

Scott McClure

11-04-2009 04:17 PM

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As Tony stated get a mechanical boost gauge on there and see where your at. Another thing is when you up the compression your boost also goes up. Marty I can't remember but are you running the 03-04 Cobra belt setup or did you just piece together your own 8-rib setup? Sounds like you had a horrible ride to the dyno that day. I've removed my wipers and got caught once on a day it wasn't supposed to rain and had a nice 45 minute ride home in a torrential downpour.

Mister L

11-05-2009 10:15 AM

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I'm using the Billet Flow 90 and 100mm pulleys throughout and added the one that mounts near the top to get almost a full wrap on the blower pulley. I do still have the 03-4 Cobra lower braced pulley. I'm sure my wipers is a wiring or relay issue. The fuses check ok but then I normally won't drive in the rain so its not a big deal. I just like my stuff to work when you activate a switch!

I'll check into a mechanical boost gage and see what it displays.

32VALVR

11-30-2009 07:56 PM

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I've had my K/B for about 2k miles now and now that its cooler out I was hoping the fan wouldn't run on high so much. Anyone have any success with a larger aftermarket radiator? Or if you've found another solution all input would be greatly appreciated.

Scott McClure

11-30-2009 08:23 PM

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I run the Mishimoto radiator and my car never goes above 180-185 but honestly your stock one should be sufficient. As far as the fan you can have it come on at different times or different speeds via a tune. Did you get a custom tune or are you using the chip from KB?

Linumup

11-30-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmax305 (Post 1213062)

I never feel inadequate ! Or do i need to Smack Talk ! :23:

Just interested in seeing what the competition is up too ! Everytime you turn around there is an upgrade on the market .

Scott McClure

11-30-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Linumup (Post 1226741)

I never feel inadequate ! Or do i need to Smack Talk ! :23:

Just interested in seeing what the competition is up too ! Everytime you turn around there is an upgrade on the market .

Hey Procharger boy please stay out of the "REAL" power adder forum!:smack: :claus:

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