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droptop mach 07-27-2009 08:43 PM

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Great thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

xXAzureMach1Xx 08-03-2009 06:51 PM

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Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

machgsxr 08-03-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx (Post 1184423)
Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...5&postcount=16

xXAzureMach1Xx 08-03-2009 09:40 PM

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Didnt see it in there but dose it matter which wire connects to which wire out of the two wires?

GhostRiderblk 08-11-2009 11:03 PM

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any kits anyone knows of ???? or best place to buy parts?

vtecDIS 08-20-2009 11:34 AM

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d@mn i want to do this swap so bad!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQkPkuu0CQI

Mustang92 08-27-2009 11:02 PM

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Next step in my Eaton/Whipple swap.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8931/1000733h.jpg

UIN2IT 08-28-2009 05:31 AM

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What kinda boost levels is everyone running safely on a stock bottom end?
What is the hp/tq GAINS you are seeing with the eaton swap (+90hp...+120hp!?)

When doing the eaton are you guys having them ported and such like the Cobra guys do, or would that be too much power for the stock Mach block!?

xXAzureMach1Xx 09-04-2009 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx (Post 1184491)
Didnt see it in there but dose it matter which wire connects to which wire out of the two wires?

Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

help with this. startin on the swap saturday and planning on finishing most of it up monday.

machgsxr 09-04-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UIN2IT (Post 1194440)
What kinda boost levels is everyone running safely on a stock bottom end?
What is the hp/tq GAINS you are seeing with the eaton swap (+90hp...+120hp!?)

When doing the eaton are you guys having them ported and such like the Cobra guys do, or would that be too much power for the stock Mach block!?

I can't say before dyno #, but assuming I was at 300/300 which is pretty common for bolt on machs, It was more like +140/+130.

I thought about having mine ported, but didn't have the money. Porting I don't feel would hurt as it's making the power more efficiently rather than adding more boost which would hurt. I think 1 or 2 had a stg. 1 port, but nothing bigger than that.

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Originally Posted by xXAzureMach1Xx (Post 1197497)
Pretty much the last thing i need to know before i start the swap. Where does the IAT2 sensor get wire to the harness?

help with this. startin on the swap saturday and planning on finishing most of it up monday.

Cut the outside two wires from the maf and run them to either the iat1 or iat2 sensor. I chose to do the iat2 which would be post blower temps.

xXAzureMach1Xx 09-08-2009 10:31 PM

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should have worded it alittle better. Im using the IAT2 and i have the plug with 4 wires. i know what 2 wires to use on the plug but dont know which wire is the IAT and the SIG RTN when i cut them from the MAF plug.

Mudd92 10-12-2009 07:58 PM

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I am planning on starting on my parts search by the end of the year, and was curious. Ive got 98 cobra intake cams, how will these perform with FI? And esp. with a eaton/whipple, maybe kb.

Thanks!

1qkmch 12-01-2009 01:34 PM

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I might consider selling my stock long block and buying an '04 cobra long block once I have the car paid off next year. The engine swap sounds like the cheapest and easiest route to take. I'm not sure how much money I could get for my stock engine but I would imagine a fair amount, considering it will have under 40k miles on it next year.

TRMach1 12-01-2009 02:26 PM

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^^^ I'd give a little more thought about adding the weight of that cast iron block, plus the weight of the blower and accessories to the front end of the Mach. The Aluminator gives you all the benefits of the Cobra engine with the weight advantage of being all aluminum. Less filling, tastes great!

1qkmch 12-01-2009 02:31 PM

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I guess I could pull the rods and pistons out of the cobra shortblock and swap them into the mach aluminum block, then swap over the upper half of the cobra engine. There's so many options that one could go with.

TRMach1 12-01-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1qkmch (Post 1227056)
I guess I could pull the rods and pistons out of the cobra shortblock and swap them into the mach aluminum block, then swap over the upper half of the cobra engine. There's so many options that one could go with.

Most of the differences are in the bottom end, not the top end. The top half of a Terminator and Mach 1 motor are pretty much identical.

1qkmch 12-01-2009 02:47 PM

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Yes I know, but it's probably easier to buy the whole thing rather than piecing together parts.

ArcAngel 12-01-2009 03:10 PM

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or just buy a swap kit for alittle over 2 grand. and run 8/9lb of boost
Swap kit is better, then that would allow you to save up for a new shortblock if you need one. I had alittle over 3500 in my swap how ever I done some other stuff, and I just got my whipple in today so its early christmas :)

1qkmch 12-01-2009 03:13 PM

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If I could get everything I need as far as the eaton setup goes for around $2000 that would be a good deal. I mainly just want to quit using nitrous. Right now I'm making 422hp 504tq on a 100 shot and I would like to make somewhere around that with the blower. Though I have a goal of hitting 11's N/A before I do anything.

Cgav8t0r 01-07-2010 01:11 AM

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So based on what I have read, I am better off using the Mach wiring even though I have the cobra harness?

Machdis1 01-11-2010 02:31 PM

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Sorry to jack thread, I was curious to know why you have to grind down the block slightly to accpet the 03-04 Intake manifold? why is that, is that just an option or is that mandatory? all though everything was a direct fit, since the mach's use 03-04 Cobra Heads to begin with.

1qkmch 01-11-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Machdis1 (Post 1238980)
Sorry to jack thread, I was curious to know why you have to grind down the block slightly to accpet the 03-04 Intake manifold? why is that, is that just an option or is that mandatory? all though everything was a direct fit, since the mach's use 03-04 Cobra Heads to begin with.

It's because of the knock sensor bungs. They stick up too far and hit the intake.

ScreamingMach46 01-11-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cgav8t0r (Post 1237952)
So based on what I have read, I am better off using the Mach wiring even though I have the cobra harness?

You only have to modify two sensors on the Mach harness I believe, so you might as well sell the Cobra harness and make some money back.

Machdis1 01-11-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1qkmch (Post 1238986)
It's because of the knock sensor bungs. They stick up too far and hit the intake.

thats weird, why aren't they like that on a Terminator.

Scott McClure 01-11-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Machdis1 (Post 1239049)
thats weird, why aren't they like that on a Terminator.

Because the cast iron Cobra block doesn't have them.


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