Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 814582)

I think the point was made very well with both Johnson and Gordon as well as Earnhardt. To just all of a sudden level something more would not be correct. If Nascar wants to make it tougher then they should announce from here on out the penalties will be more severe.

Some of you feel a driver suspension should have happened because of your disdain for the Hendricks cars and these two drivers in particular. They were penalized heavily and with past actions, especially earlier in the year with Waltrip, this was very fair.

Now here is something else for you all to think about. The question was brought up last night on the Speed Channel about Mark Martin driving for Gordon. If Gordon would not have been there to race and Martin was driving for him Mark would have received the driver point penalty and not Jeff. Now that would have really blown a few of your stacks out there. LOL

Originally Posted by Blackpony04 (Post 814596)

I agree with all the fines and points docking but I don't feel suspending drivers is necessary in these cases. These guys for the most part are not the drivers of old that used to turn their own wrenches and instead are celebrities spending 90% of their down time entertaining sponsors and fans. I'd shite a brick if I ever saw Jeff Gordon under one of those cars...which is why I like Ryan Newman...a Purdue graduate in Mechanical engineering! He knows how to build a car!

I still say however that Kurt Busch most definitely should have been suspended after nearly running over a jackman in the pits! :mad:

Originally Posted by G (Post 814666)

On further looking into this the guy did not have a jack and was not working on the car. He was inspecting the right front fender and was essentially a lookout. What you guys forget is these guys enter the pits all the time with guys fully to the right of the car. It's kind of like a ML pitcher hitting a batter, normally the ball is exactly where they want it. If Kurt intended to hit him he would have been hit.

The member of the 20 crew that came over with the deadblow hammer was ONLY there to use it on Kurt and or the 2 car. While Kurt was wrong for what he did, it has been blown way out of sight. Tim Brewer on the video is a former crew chief and has an axe to grind with Busch. I don't agree with his analysis and if you notice where the NASCAR official is, that's where the one guy over the wall should have been too.

It's NO excuse, Busch got what he deserved and NASCAR discussed the event with the 20 crew members involved as well. If you look at the entire race Stewart was an AZZ the whole time. Kurt should have got his car fixed and moved on to another event before putting him in the wall. Check out the video and tell me Stewarts not an AZZ.

http://video.nascarblog.org/item/NNTJ6Z2798R3V0FJ

I can't stand either one of these guys but Kurt may actually be getting his act together. I'm mad at Stewart for making me defend, ever so slightly, the actions of Kurt Busch. :OUCH:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 814690)

If you notice, Stewart never backed off until Busch was completly spinning out. He helped him get into the wall.

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 814703)

:agree:

If you watch closely, Tony Stupid...I mean Stewart spins him, and then after backing off to get a good run on him, rams him. Kurt was inthe wrong, but he was baited big time. NASCAR was right in its penalty towards KB, but shold have slapped Tony down as well. He's no angel, and has the history to prove it. Someone's goign to get real hurt one day, and he's going to be involved somehow, someway.
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Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder (Post 814730)

What Happened??????????????????????????????

Originally Posted by MCHNROL (Post 814846)

Kurt needs punched in the face....again!:23:

Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 814867)

I think Kurt and Tony both need something to hit them in the head. Both of these drivers are an absolute disgrace to Nascar. And to think that Joe Gibbs was so worried about image that he wouldn't want JR. with a Budweiser sponsor. I think Stewart hurts the teams imager more than a beer sponsor would.

Originally Posted by Mach1Marauder (Post 814730)

What Happened??????????????????????????????

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 816333)

The world as we know is is about to start crumbling around us. Toyota's got a pole...

:borg:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 816375)

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Well at least they didn't win a race yet.

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 816401)

Yeah, but they hadn't gotten a pole, YET...

Until today...

:borg:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 816524)

Should anyone think there's no equality in the penalties being handed out, the Brian Vickers Toyota (Red Bull) was booted out of the race for being 1/8" too low in the front! NASCAR is giving no quarter in compliance issues, none!
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