What to do to get 300 rwhp on a Mach 1
Well I have done a few mods and have done my best to dyno after each mod or group of mods to see what the gains were and my last dyno put me at 301 rwhp and 319 rwtq.
Bone Stock = 266 hp Bassani SS Offroad X-Pipe and Catback K&N Air Filter (Drop In) = 283 hp SCT Custom Chip = 292 hp PHP Intake Spacer and JLT RAI = 301 hp Also noteworthy, its not all about the peak HP/TQ, on the curve there are some areas of significant gain from mod to mod. I just thought this might help some of you who might be questioning as I did what mods make the most difference. By far the exhaust/K&N was the single largest gain so far. Like many of you I hate spending money on stuff that doesn't help the car, or causes a loss in power. What a waste. |
Something I forgot to say, before the dyno with the chip, I put Bassani High Flow CATS into the x-pipe....
So the #'s with chip and JLT RAI and PHP Intake Spacer are with Bassani CATS. I am comtemplating taking the cats back out. |
Good job Southbeachmach1! So are you going to run it soon? Going to Ford Fest this weekend?
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Congrats on the 300+ club:CHEERS: I don't know about sobe but I'll be there on Sat. BTW sobe, aren't you alittle north of Miami to be the Southbeach Mach. 'Sides you aren't comporange. :COOL:
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Darnit the Fun Ford thing is this weekend.:(
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Hey guys I ran it last night (Friday) and pulled 13.09 w/ 2.08 60 ft. so I'm real close to pulling a 12 with a hair off the 60 ft.
I think I'm gonna give the car a rest and take out my other toy, the jet ski this weekend. :THUMBSUP: TheBlkMach1, where are you dynoing your car? I wonder if there is a variation in dyno's. Do you guys think headers and pulley's will yield an additional 25 hp?:confused: Anyway take care everyone!! |
bassani mid-length's added about 15 hp through out
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I got 300.2 HP and 317.8 TQ with only K&N Air Filter, Magnaflow Catted X, and Magnaflow Catback :COOL:
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Check my sig only 5 hp short.
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Good run southbeachmach1, you're almost there. My cars getting worked on and dyno'd at Razor's Edge Performance. I'm sure there will be variations in the dyno, especially since my first dyno was done in STD and this one is in SAE.
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where and when is ford fest?
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just curious, is that an 03 or 04? and do you have the tmx2 computer? (says on the passenger door, next to the latch)
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Hey southbeach, where did you get your car dyno'd at?
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I've been getting my Chip and Dyno's done at SRC Racing
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Benefold, your lucky or you have a dyno that's off. Did you do a baseline dyno first to see what your's did stock? Some cars pull 280+ out of the box... very lucky
Mine was 266 corrected when tested on a dyno at 5000' when I used to live in Albuquerque. I have heard the magnaflow cat back might be yielding a little more power than Bassani, had I known, I would have gone magnaflow catback. I wonder if I can buy the magnaflow mufflers and mount them in the bassani cat back. |
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One better? Is the tune different? |
wow, my car only took a O/R H-Pipe and a chip to get to 303rwhp.:D
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I had a drop in K&N weld in magnaflows and a offroad slp xpipe
308rwhp, 323rwtq SAE |
Well unless my dyno is reading low. It definitley took a few extra parts to get my car pushing 301 on that dyno at SRC. I think its a good idea to use the same dyno each time though. Regardless of whether its low or high, at least you know what your static gains are in general. Maybe I am pushing more power, because look at my track #'s, If I can get my launch under 2.0, I'm an easy 12.8 - 12.9. What do you guys think?
I have heard alot guys around 300 still are having trouble breaking 13.3, so maybe I am pushing more. Maybe I should try the dyno at Razor's edge out just to see. How much do they charge? |
Razor's Edge is, i believe something like $150 an hour. Not too sure though. My friend said he saw the rate fee posted on the wall.
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southbeachmach1, i see those are STD numbers (in your sig). most people go by SAE numbers ;)
I'm at 296/315 sae, 302/321 std, so like me, you're about 5 hp short of 300 :p my mods are JLT cai, mac prochamber and a chip. stock catback/headers. |
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Yeah SAE is like 293 :concerned
For the same run, my uncorrected is actually 299 and it was a pretty average South Florida day....humidity and warm - it was mid summer. Interesting how your turning that much w/o the intake spacer and no-catback/mufflers... What was your baseline stock? I started from like 267 (SAE) |
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:bs: Hard to belive 308 with xpipe and mufflers.
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We offer a chip and CAI kit that will put you over 300rwhp/tq
Also, adding exhaust helps! |
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What the CAI look like? What's the design?
Most Mach's baseline around 270 rwhp, I find it hard to believe that a chip and a CAI would generate 30+ rwhp on a stock mach with no exhaust. |
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You have Dyno sheets to prove this?
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you would be suprised. I have got a k&n cai and off road x and I was.
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I also have 4.30s, 31 spline axles/tlok, and 10.5" wheels, which add quite a bit of unsprung weight, eating up a few hp. I figure an aluminum driveshaft and later on a flywheel will offset those :) Quote:
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My mach ran good when I bought it, but I had to put the parts on. First I put on my Catted prochamber, it made a little difference. Second I put on my C&l 85mm mass air and and intake tube, once again could tell a difference. Next I welded cutouts in front of my mufflers, made a noticable difference. Next I switched to Royal Purple synthetic, some say it makes a difference and some say it doesn't, well I'm a believer my engine ran a little smoother and maybe hair more performance. Next I repalced stock catback and cutouts with Borla Stingers not much different than having cutouts open. Sixth removed cats by welding pipes in place, once again noticable difference in performance and sound. Next I put Steeda underdrive pullies on, I could not tell a difference. Last I got Tim Barth at Modular Powerhouse to dyno tune my car using SCT flasher, big difference. Baseline dyno with all mods except SCT tune I put down 303rwhp STD but corrected it came to 291rwhp SAE and 316rwtq SAE. After a few pulls to get timing and air/fuel corrected (was 14 to 1 or higher) The new numbers came out at 308rwhp SAE. We decided to let engine cool down and see how high the numbers would go. With air/fuel set at 13 to 1 give or take a little my car put down 312.6rwhp SAE and 339.9rwtq SAE. That is how I got into the 300rwhp game.
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Get a JLT RAI and an intake spacer.... cheap mods and easy to install you should get at least 10 RWHP and some more torque. I personally think the C&L is not a good idea so I haven't messed with it. That Borla Stinger seems to be helping, and not just making it louder. I may change the catback out eventually. I like the sound and look of the bassani pipes, but the dyno's numbers is where it all counts.
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I'm doing php spacer next month, still debating hooker long tubes, knooks longtubes, or bassani midlength. Eventually electric waterpump and a kenne bell boost-a-spark. I want to try and get to 335rwhp SAE with boltons. It might be possible, only one way to find out. I think the Borla catback outflows bassani catback, I noticed my Borla stingers are 3 inch mufflers fitted to 2.5 inch pipe. I do like the sound of bassani pipes better. I'm curious about if JLT pipe and if x pipe would make more HP but I do not want to lose any torque.
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I have the C&L on my car and it ran a bit lean but i could feel a difference in performance. However, James over at Runnin With The Devil thinks that is worthless and told me that the stock maf is good till 400 hp and the screen isnt a restriction until the 350 hp mark. I think ill listen to james and put the stock maf in but leave the screen out. I always felt that throtle improved with the screen out. James sad that that would be ok. It sucks that i have to take the C&L out, but if the custom tune will give me more power without it, then ill gladly take it out.
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i dont mean to sound stupid but what is this php spacer sombody explain what it does where i can get it and so on
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The PHP intake spacer goes underneith the upper part of your intake manifold. It raises the top cover of the intake manifold up about 1/2 inch. I believe this allows a greater volume of air into the intake (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Its a cheap and well worth it do it yourself mod.
The only part that sucks about the install is getting that darn EGR to mount back up correctly. Let me know if you need pictures. |
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i put on off road pro chamber and slp cat back and i got 303 hp and 319 tq
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I have offroad Prochamberand K&N drop in filter... 304rwhp SAE and 333 RWTQ SAE
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sounds like the offroad prochamber is yeilding some serious numbers....
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Off road prochamber working for me too |
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just another question... who here has an auto, and who has a stick? I know some of you have it posted in your sigs but others dont
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Life is good with the factory freak :borg: |
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Off Road Pro-chamber Keeps The Torque In Line Because The Chamber Keeps The Back Psi In Line! No Poping On Downshifts Either.. Love The Sound
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guys, I have been reading your blog i have heard of many mustangs dyno at 265 and some at 280. I have been slowly modifying mine i have SLP cat back, K&N slip in filter with the fender tube removed, and i ported my intake from top to bottom, currently i ampersuing a 10psi procharger system, and a tru x pipe maybe a DR.gas. anyone try a DR.GAS?
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Bassani O/R X pipe, Mac cat-back, drop in K&N filter.........309hp/324trq. Sunshine Top and Accessories, Dynojet. Killeen TX
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I would like to chip the mach, any suggestions out there??
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I've got a Borla Cat Back, RWTD Tune, C&L CAI/MAF, PHP intake spacer and a Meziere electric water pump and I'm putting down 302rwhp.
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MRT CAI, K&N, Pro-M Meter, MRT Single Cat and Maganflow Mufflers, I have 289hp @ rear wheels. Stock Tune.
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