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What do guys and gals think of having a thread strictly about NASCAR. I know this subject can get pretty nasty sometimes though.

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I am all in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Who thinks Jr. will win the Championship? NOT ME!!!!! (at least I hope not). I'm thinking Kenseth or Harvick. My driver (#12) is not in the chase. I'm glad Stewart is out. He is such a hipicrit.

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He was my driver till this year. Want to by a #8 leather jacket??????

I think I might be a Toyota fan next year. #55

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My wife might want it but I would probably have to throw it in the garbage on her though. LOL I hope MW does better in the Toyota then how he did this year. I think he was concentrating on his Toyota team for next year which may have dampered this season. We'll see how he does. I'm sure with him and DJ together, Both of their perfomances will be better. Not too sure on Yates Racing for next year though. Sounds like he is going to have a bunch of rookies next year.

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Yates might get Mark Martin, but I doubt it.
I refuse to support any co. that sponsors a Toiletta.
I hope Mark martin wins the Campionship, but my money is on Kenseth.
Best crew, steady driver.

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Martin said he wasn't going to race the full schedule next year. He wanted to take time off to spend time with the family. Are you saying he might race part time for Yates? He did say that if he missed it too much, he might race some more in 2008. As for Toyota, we all seen it coming for a couple of years now.

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NASCAR is interesting to watch... for about two minutes, then it bears a striking resemblence to my commute home every night. OK, so those boys are driving faster, but factor in that most of the people I'm in traffic with are talking on cell phones and eating and it raises driving difficulty factor.

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I will admit, SOME of the races get to be boring at times but I still watch it every weekend. If I know I will miss it, I tape it and watch it later. Just imagine driving your car to it's very limits and at the verge of spinning out and smashing into the wall anywhere from 500 to 1000 times in a 3-4 hour period. Not to mention sit in a car that is well over 100 degrees. I'm sure that is not easy. I know I'm not cut out to drive 1/4 inch from other cars doing 200 MPH while at the verge of spinning out. Just a little food for thought for the NASCAR haters and to the one's that say it's not a real sport. :ORANGE:

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I have season tickets for Charlotte (Lowes). Will get my fix in a few weeks.

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Awesome! I've only been to three races so far. Atlanta, Chicago, and Bristol. Bristol was by far the best race I have ever been to. Not a bad seat in the house. If I ever get a chance to go back, I'm definetly there. I went to the day race but would love to go the night race.

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I think they should take off the restrictor plates and put the drivers back in control of the cars. I wonder how the younger drivers would do if they had to let out and tap the brakes going into the turns at Talledega or Daytona?

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I have been to Daytona, Charlotte (for the first night WInston)
and MIS (on my 40th BD).

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I have season tickets to Texas. I have been a NASCAR fan for a long time but some of the races are boring, too long. Either shorten the races or pay more money or points for leading laps and maybe finishing first at halfway. They kinda lay back on long races and race when they have too. I really like Talladega, have been going for years.

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I have serious doubts about a NASCAR thread. After all we have rules against politics or religion threads and depending where you're from NASCAR is either one or both of those... :LAUGH: :borg:

But for what it's worth, my heart's on Mark but my money's on Kenseth...

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Championship????

Martin, if it was my choice! :worship:

Harvick, because he is on FIRE right now. I didn't like him early on but he seems to have pulled his head out of his butt. :23:

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But his hair is still brown...............

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No one named Mohammed, Clinton or Allah in ASSCAR.
There is a Busch series though.

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I hear Mohammed's car keeps blowing up. :grr: Not the engine --- the whole car. :23:

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How do you figure NASCAR has anything to do with politics or religion? It's just a sport like football or baseball. I've seen plenty of threads on sports.

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Well, they do all turn left.............
I recall NBC or some commie network trying to goad ASSCAR fans
into saying or doing anti- "Religion of Peace" ( :notsure: ) things.
It didn't work.

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That's just a result of some network being retarded. NASCAR wanted nothing to do with it because it had nothing to do with the sport.

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Exactly.

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So anyway, what do you all think of the "car of tomorrow" which will be in a few races next year. I think the thing is :butt: ugly. I guess it will make it better though because it won't rely on aerodynamics so much. It will put it more in the drivers hands.

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Looking at the front end of the thing,
I now know why plywood is so expensive at Home Depot.
ASSCAR teams bought it all.

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I agree 100%. If you are too scared to go that fast, don't race then. Racing is about speed. I think if they flip their car over at 200 MPH compared to 220-230 MPH, it won't make much of a difference. Again I could be wrong but I think the result will be pretty much the same. I think Rusty reached just over 230 MPH without the plate when he was testing radio equipment last year.

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I wonder how effective the rear spoiler actually is on them cars.

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Can't see the Uncle Ben's stickers with those things on there.

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Bill Elliot hit 218 back in the mid 80s. Thats when the racing was interesting and the drivers actually had to drive the cars. Dont get what Im saying wrong,The drivers now are in better physical shape than ever before. But is that for their job or for the corporate sponsors?

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For those who didn't see the car of tomorrow.

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From what I recall, Lynn St. James, in an Elliott prepared 89 Tbird,
hit 217 at Talladega.
Bill hopped into it and hit 220.
I have met both drivers.
Really cool people.

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I think a little of both. With this new car coming out, I think it will put more emphasis on the driver and not so much on the car. We'll see how it goes. I think they are going to race it at Bristol next year but I feel they should try it at one of the restrictor plate and 1 1/2 mile tracks also. I'm not exactly sure on all the races the will race it on next year.

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June of 2004, Rusty Wallace hit 228 MPH (Average 221 MPH for entire lap) while doing a test to assure quality audio at high speeds. He says he figured they could hit 235 MPH with a little tweaking.

http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/head...ace_talladega/

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I think 235 or 240 would be very possible with the technology today.

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Oh yeah, I see those all the time on the highway. :rolleyses

They need to start STOCK CAR racing again. WTH are they thinking. :grr:

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Buy a car off the lot and race it. That's the way it used to be. That's the way it should be.

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No Toilettas that way.

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You've obviously never been to a race in the south...it'a religion. I'm not closing or warning anybody...I was making a funny! Mods do that too... :borg:

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I was in Atlanta. I figured out what you meant about it being a religion. I'm just a little slow sometimes. LOL

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i really dont watch enough tv to justify cable during the summer. then nbc takes over and puts all races on tnt pisses me off :23: . i hope there ratings are down way down

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TNT/NBC race coverage absolutely blows.
Time for pit stops!!
We'll be back after this hour of commercials!
FOX RULES!

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I actually was timing their commercials one day. It averaged out to be about every 10-11 minutes of racing and then the commercials came on. That was throughout the whole race. Kind of irritating. On NASCAR.com, someone asked the question and their reply was, "they are the sponsors and we have to have so much air time allotted for them" BS, They should do what I think is IRL does. They have split screen during commercial breaks. The race on one half and commercials on the other.

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I totally agree with you on the split screen deal. NASCAR put out some corporate blah-blah on its website about how it won't work! It's not like it's any different than that OTHER series who does do it...oh, wait...that's another network...:borg:

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How bout lets not and say we did... Face it, NASCAR is just not as good as it use to be. Esp with the foreign makes wanting to be apart of what use to be an American tradition. Now iam afraid it is spoiling my mood to even watch it anymore. It doesnt have that special intrest anymore when American automotive makers rival each other. As Americans.... this was our sport.... Not anymore more.

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Watch the first 50 laps.....ZZZZZZZZ........last 30 laps. I love the night races and Bristol is one bad azz night race. I would like more Left and Right races but I know I'm a minority on this.

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Your logic is fine, but part of the reason for the restrictor plates is to keep the cars out of the stands when they wreck.

Check this out...

http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsr...a/12800309.htm

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I knew the whole story behind it but remember, that was back in 1987 when aerodynamics were not very good and safety was no way like it is now days.. Now days the cars litteratly get sucked to the race track. They also have roof flaps, side windows and that little strip on the back window to keep them from flipping. Obviously it doesn't always work but if you flip a car over going 200 as compared to 225 or 230, I don't think the car is going to act much differently if it's going to fly in the air at them speeds. On the other hand, if they can figure something out like Newman said. Find a set-up where they would have to slow down in the corners. One way is that they could always put the roof rail back on and raise the rear spoiler like they do in the Busch series. I know alot of drivers liked that set-up. The restrictor plates gets them too bunched up and it makes it unsafe also. I think they should lose the plate and flatten the corners. Then they would naturally have to slow down for the corners and make for an exciting race just like back in the day. Just my $0.02

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The roof flaps do help, but they're not fool-proof. Remember Ryan Newman and Elliott Sadler both got some serious air time when they crashed recently. Plus, the article said that Bobby Allison blew his motor. It actually came apart, and it was the fact that he ran over a large chunk of it is what kicked his car up, off of the ground in the first place. There is no current safety feature on the cars today that would have changed anything in his scenario, therefore, slowing the cars down was the only "sure thing." I personally don't like the restrictor plates, I've been to Talladega, and I would love to see a race there where they were hitting 220+. Just one occurance though, that's all it would take. Could you imagine one of those sled's barrel-rolling down the main grandstand there. That lawsuit would be sooo big that both the track owner and probably NASCAR itself would never financially recover from that.

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I agree with you 100%. They should do like they did at Homestead but instead of making progressive banking, take some of the banking away. I know it would cost the track a lot of money but it would make it much safer. Besides the money shouldn't be a problem for the tracks, they make enough of it. LOL

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I was at the wind tunnel in mooresville doing some testing on my brothers camaro. The engineer at the wind tunnel said aerodynamicly the CAR OF TOMORROW is a piece of $h!t. It has alot of drag to slow the cars down.
Also that b/s that NASCAR gave everyone about it being cheaper to produce is a bunch of crap. The engineer said the have like 30k templates which include; the inner fender wells (as a rediculous example). Talk about not being able to get ahead. You wont be able to do anything to give your car an advantage.
Sorry for the rant but Nascar is making me lose intrest by the second and I used to watch it religously.

In my opinion; You know who is going to win the NEXTEL CUP this year; Whom ever NASCAR wants to win it.

Let the flaming begin.













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