Official Vortech HP/TQ/mods thread
 

i see we have a sticky for all other power adders and i know there are a few members that run Vortech on there Mach's. so i figure it be a good thing if they put there info down like in the other ones, to help guys at, i just copy and paste the format from the procharger thread, also please make this a sticky

Please use the following format.

Stock bottom end:

Head unit:

Pulley size and boost level:

Fuel system:

Tuner/Dyno shop info:

Other notable mods:

RWHP/RWTQ:

ASh

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Stock bottom end: no forged 10.2 compression

Head unit: V2 SC

Pulley size and boost level: 3.12 9psi

Fuel system: return style stealth 340 pumps and 80lb injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Travis Franklin at Gearheads Performance

Other notable mods: Intercooler, power pipe, full exhaust

RWHP/RWTQ: 536rwhp 444rwtq on e85 23* timing, 8 psi 464rwhp 402rwtq on 91 12* timing

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Stock bottom end: Yes

Head unit: V2 S-Trim

Pulley size and boost level: 3.48 with 10lbs of boost

Fuel system: 39lb Cobra injectors and Focus fuel pump w/Kenne Bell BAP (20amp)

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Mustang Magic

Other notable mods: Intercooler, PHP 3/8 Intake Spacer, Bassani Catted X-Pipe, Borla Stinger Cat Back.

RWHP/RWTQ: 455RWHP & 396RWTQ

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Bottom end: Build over at Modular Performance 9.5.1 compression.

Head Unit: V2 SQ-Trim with aftercooler.

Pulley size: 3.25

Fuel System: Return style system with two walbro 255 pumps and 80lb injectors

Tuner: Matt from MMP.

Other notable mods: 98 cobra intake cams and a few other things.

RWHP/RWTQ: The car made 551 rwhp and 512 rwtq at only 10 psi of boost and +10 on the timing at only 5900 RPMs.

Note: When I get back to the states in Feb going to put a T-Trim head unit and up the timing and see what happens.

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Stock bottom end: Yes

Head unit: V2 sq-trim with aftercooler

Pulley size and boost level: 3.48" 9.1 lbs

Fuel system: 255 svt focus pump, 42 lb frpp injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Dan Carlson (owner) Realspeed Automotive, Bohemia, NY

Other notable mods: Anderson Powerpipe, 90mm maf, frpp 4.10's

RWHP/RWTQ: 455/389

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Stock bottom end: No, Aluminator NA short block 10.1 compression.

Head unit: V2 (Upgraded impellor to SI spec)

Pulley size and boost level: Stock, boost unknown (10-sih?)

Fuel system: Cobra tank and fuel pumps, BAP, 60lb injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: JPC Racing

Other notable mods: Intercooler, PHP 3/8 Intake Spacer, Bassani ceramic coated mid lenght headers, Bassani Catted X-Pipe, Dynomax cat back

RWHP/RWTQ: 514 RWHP 462 RWTQ

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Nice results for sure.

Is that the Vortech pulley that normally comes with the intercooled kit? I believe those are 3.48". That SI wheel seems to be a nice upgrade from an SC.

What all did the heads need? Any guide work or milling?

Lastly is that on stock cams and are the cams degreed or dot-to-dot?

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Is that the Vortech pulley that normally comes with the intercooled kit? (YES) I believe those are 3.48". That SI wheel seems to be a nice upgrade from an SC.

What all did the heads need? Any guide work or milling? (Complete rebuild...so they are cam ready when I'm ready)

Lastly is that on stock cams and are the cams degreed or dot-to-dot? (Stock...no idea on the other questions)

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Then those are impressive numbers for that pulley and overall combo.

:CHEERS:

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I think that sound about right with his combo.

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On an SC with a 3.6" pulley and headers, about 440-450 rwhp seems to be common.

With an S-trim and a 3.48", maybe 470 (My previous non-IC setup).

So 514 rwhp with stock cams and 3.48" pulley is really good.

The difference must be the SI upgrade. I think I want one.

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vortech e -trim numbers in sig

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The SI upgrade is worth a few lbs over the s/sc with the same pulley.

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Here's a list of the most recent mods to get the 514 RWHP. On top of this, I already had the Cobra tank, dual pumps, Boost a Pump. In retrospec...I should have sprung for a return style fuel setup. The Vortech upgrade plus keeping 10:1 compression with the NA shortblock helped.

ALUMINATOR 4.6L FORGED N/A Shortblock
Shipping and Handling
Rebuild cyl heads w/new vlaves and springs---est
60lb High Impedence Fuel Injectors (SET)
Oil Pump, High-Volume, Ford, 4.6L SOHC / DOHC
MODULAR OIL PAN GASKET
4.6/5.4 Oil Pan Powdercoated Black
4V OIL PUMP PICK UP TUBE
4.6L DOHC & SOHC, 5.4L SOHC : LEFT .040
4.6L DOHC & SOHC, 5.4L SOHC : RIGHT .040
99-up 4V only Even Flow GEN 2 Head Cooling Mod
MODULAR CYLINDER HEAD STUD KIT
MODULAR CAM BOLT
4V HEADER GASKET (03-04) P.S.
4V HEADER GASKETS (03-04) D.S. (2 NEEDED)
4V TIMING CHAIN GASKET
4V TIMING COVER GASKET (center)
4V TIMING COVER GASKET
MODULAR REAR MAIN SEAL
Mach1 Intake Gasket ( requires 2 )
4V VALVE COVER GASKET (99-up)
4V VALVE COVER GASKET (99-up)
4V including SHELBY CAM CHAIN TENSIONER
4V including SHELBY CAM CHAIN TENSIONER
2V/3V/4V TIMING CHAINS
MODULAR FRONT CRANK SEAL
Mach 1 Upper Intake Gasket ( requires 2 )
Mach 1 Throttle Body Gasket
MODULAR PILOT BEARING
4.6 // 4V: Valve Springs Set of 32****
Ford 4.6L 4V Steel Retainer for 26123***
SAE : 5w30 Oil
Modular Oil Filter
Antifreeze (GREEN)
Vortech rebuild---APPRX
96-04 MUSTANG MOTOR MOUNTS **
96-04 4.6 Starter Kit Ford
Oil seperators / filters tbd ????
Remove Engine Assembly and Disassemble. Reassemble New Engine and Install in Vehicle. Break Engine In and Road Test
Added Charge for Removal and Installation of an Engine w/ a Power Adder ( ie. Supercharger or Turbocharger )
CUSTOM DYNO TUNING

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Stock bottom end: No, Aluminum Block bored .010 over, Forged Stroker Steel Racing Crankshaft by Kellogg, MANLEY 4340 Forged H-beam Rods(shotpeened, magnafluxed and weight matched), MANLEY Forged Notched Pistons with tool steel Pins and teflon skirts 9.5:1 CR, Total Seal Rings, ARP everything, Clevite Performance bearings, Melling Racing Oil pump teflon coated, 15/16 oil pickup, Felpro gaskets, 1 piece rear main seal, 7qt Oil Pan, Windage Tray

Head unit: Vortech V-1 S-Trim

Pulley size and boost level: 2.8RR pulley, 12ish psi(if I was lucky, with major slippage) Gone through 3 belts in a year and a half. Probably alignment though too!

Fuel system: Cobra Tank, Dual Ford GT Supercar Pumps, Fore Precision Billet Fuel Hat, 60lb Injectors, Zone 5 FPDM..

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Greg at Racers Edge Tuning in Downey, CA http://racersedgetuning.net/

Other notable mods: Stage 2 Ported and Polished Heads, Stainless Valves, Paxton A/A Innercooler, Anderson Boost Pipe, Vortech Mini-Race BOV, PMS HPX Slot MAF, Custom PCV Delete with Catch Can and breather for both Valve Covers, TKO600 with cryo treated gears, MGW Shifter, McLeod Twin Disc with Billet Flywheel, Lakewood Bellhousing, MM Firewall/Clutch Quadrant, JBA Shorties, Stock Cats with Custom 3.5" anti-reversion bubbles to 3" Magnaflow X pipe with SLP LM1s(custom done by Ed Hansons Muffler Shop in Spring Valley,CA), Energy Suspension Motor and Trans mounts, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Suspension goodies..

RWHP/RWTQ: 539/499 Peak HP was around 6200 and fell almost 100hp by the time it hit 7k.. Trying to find the culprit behind that still..

I just ordered an 8-rib kit and a 2.7RR pulley today! So as soon as I get them put on, ALIGNED PROPERLY this time and take the car to the dyno I will post the new numbers. Hopefully this time it doesnt slip like my current setup! Im going to be spinning the hell out of my little S-Trim but we'll see what she can do and go from there LOL. If anything I might do the 928 Motorsports Impeller upgrade.. Who knows. HAH. Im sure im missing some things in the above catagories but its pretty close off the top of my head.. Also going to Ford GT Cams and upgraded Springs as soon as the money is in my pocket! Then a new tune/new numbers again.. Gotta love the performance bug.

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Stock bottom end: Stock block [3,500 miles]

Head unit: V2 SCi Trim

Pulley size and boost level: Stock 3.6" [unknown, guessing 8-10 psi]

Fuel system: Stock deliverysystem with 47lb. Ford Injectors & Focus SVT fuel pump

Tuner/Dyno shop info: DCT in Toronto, Diego Lopes

Other notable mods: Anderson Power Pipe, Stock Exhaust Manifolds, Stock H-Pipe, Borla Catback (turbo design, not stingers), Devilsown Water/Meth Injection, 4.10 gears w/31 spline axles, SCT BA-2600 MAF

RWHP/RWTQ: 428/385 @ 19*timing

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UPDATE

Stock bottom end: no forged 10.5:1 compression

Head unit: V2 S

Pulley size and boost level: 3.12 12psi

Fuel system: return style stealth 340 pumps and 80lb injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Travis Franklin at Gearheads Performance

Other notable mods: Intercooler, power pipe, full exhaust

RWHP/RWTQ: 631rwhp 528rwtq on e85 23* timing

ET/MPH 10.69@129.98

just swapped to a SI blower no dyno numbers or ET's yet.

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Great number:orange:

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Definitely will be interested to see how the SI #'s compare.

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Never dynod with the SI head unit but went from 12lbs at 6300rpm to 15lbs at 6300 and 129mph to 134!

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Stock bottom end: yes

Head unit: v2 t trim

Pulley size and boost level: 3.48 11psi

Fuel system: 255lph, kb bap, 60# injectors, sct ba2400 maf (blow through)

Tuner/Dyno shop info: ernie/ vindictive motorsports/ extreme performance

Other notable mods: off road h and flowmasters

RWHP/RWTQ: 485/419

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Stock bottom end: Yes

Head unit: V2 S-Trim

Pulley size and boost level: 3.40 @ 6lbs and 3.125 @ 9lbs

Fuel system: Division X 340, pprv delete, wire upgrade, Cobra 39lb injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: DynoEdge

Other notable mods: 4.5" core air to air treadstone intercooler, Tial 50 bov, HPX maf, custom 4" powerpipe, stock runner ported intake, flowtech long tubes, 98 Cobra Cams, o/r x pipe, Borla catback, ac delete,

RWHP/RWTQ:

highest: 3.55 gears, 9lbs, 3.125" pulley stock lower, 16* timing
below that: 4.56 gears, 6 lbs, 3.40 pulley stock lower, 16* timing
below that: NA, bolt ons, cobra cams, 4.56 gears, 22* timing

Added a walbro 465, 60lb injectors, e85, and threw 23* of timing at it for the last graph showing 91 vs e85.

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I have the v2 and running the 3.48" pulley, with and anderson power pipe, procharger a/a intercooler and I'm at about 11lbs

I am also running Vortech Race Bypass vavle. I do have long tubes and a ported stock runner length intake

I'm sitting around 470rwhp and 410rwtq on a mustang dyno

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Post up your dyno graph.

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Stock bottom end: yes

Head unit: V2

Pulley size and boost level: 9lbs

Fuel system: 42 lb injectors, KB BAP, SVT Focus Fuel pump, lethal performance wiring upgrade.

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Lethal Performance, San Antonio TX

Other notable mods: long tubes, o/r x, magnapacks, air to water intercooler

RWHP/RWTQ: 449/413

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Since vortech owns Paxton, any room for Paxton results? lol

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Stock bottom end: Yes, 2003 Mach 1 longblock, 2001 Cobra intake

Head unit:Vortech S-Trim V-2

Pulley size and boost level: 3.6 pulley and 9.8psi at 6400 RPMs

Fuel system: Return style-twin Walbro GS342s, 60lb injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Tuners Inc.

Other notable mods:Custom Treadstone A/A, Vortech Mini-Race BPV, BA5000 slot style MAF conversion, full Bassani exhaust, Accufab TB, custom power pipe.

RWHP/RWTQ: 488rwhp/401rwtq at 16.8 degrees timing

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I like the power, but the timing seems a bit high to me if your compression is stock.

I usually have 10 to 14 degrees in these with stock bottom end engines. I've never gotten to complete a run with that much timing and knock sensors working on stock compression and 10lbs of boost. could just be variance in the reluctor/crank trigger wheel.

Josh.

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The timing has been backed off because the car was making too much power for the stock shortblock. I'm running the stock 99 GT engine harness (adapted to the 4valve motor) and stock (reflashed obviously) 99 GT ECU on this car and I don't believe the knock sensors are used because of that. I'll run race gas with the this tune on the track. We didn't run it again to see what the power was with the timing backed off a couple degrees.

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Stock bottom end: yes

Head unit: v2 SC

Pulley size and boost level: 3.33 6 rib and 9.5lbs

Fuel system: 340 pump and 60# injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: Adam Maurer S&M Motorsports Cleves Ohio

Other notable mods: longtubes, ported stock runner intake, open blower(no filter), TB, 96 cams Dot-to-Dot, 4.10s, and procharger 3 core intercooler

RWHP/RWTQ:480+/430+ on a brand spanking new mustang dyno... Didn't ask about the timing but AFR was at 11.0 at that time.

Car performed well. On the street, made really good pulls with a c6 that made ~430. Id imagine the traps would have been between 123-125 if i had the rpm for it at the end. Car has since blown up haha

New motor has a smidge less compression but also going with a 3.125 pulley, KB BAP, 3.73 gear, and i think my new blower is an s trim. Oh.. and a built Promotion Tr3650 that i was able to put 8 miles on before it blew up (no i wasn't beating on my car with a new tranny, clutch, PP and flywheel haha.. blew up coasting to a stop).

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I have a question for all involved. I love seeing the hp numbers. It's very impressive. My Mach has decent street tires, 410's and a converter and turns 12.8 quarter miles times with terrible DA here in Phoenix.
As near as I can guess a Vortec with intercooler would run $7k+ by the time it was tuned. Is it really woth the money? I don't see any quarter mile times posted. I'm not complaining about big hp, but does all that money just buy you an impressive dyno printout?
I believe there would need to be a lot more money spent on suspension upgrades before any of that power could be put to the pavement.

I put together a used kit and i spent about $3.5k. My DAs are worse than yours, at 7,000. Best NA time was 13.1@104. With the blower I'm at 11.9@120 right now. Doing an auto swap and I think I'll run mid 11s after.

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Cool!
Has anyone found out the hard way just how much boost our all aluminum 4v can take considering the weaker than Cobra internals? I understand a bad tune can take out the motor no matter what the boost level.

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Bump for any new Vortech machs?

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I'm getting a V3 Si installed later this month. I'll post numbers once I get them.

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Stock bottom end: yes

Head unit: V3 Si

Pulley size and boost level: 3.48" pulley, almost 10 lbs at 6500 RPM

Fuel system: Walbro 255LPH Fuel Pump Module, 39# 03-04 Cobra injectors

Tuner/Dyno shop info: GTR High Performance

Other notable mods: CX Racing A2A intercooler kit, VMP 5000/HPX blow-through MAF sensor

RWHP/RWTQ: 476 rwhp 420 rwtq when cool, about 450 rwhp 400 rwtq when warmed up, see dyno chart