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Yep. Last time I was at TMS two seats cost me $200. And they never open up the back stretch anymore which is where I've been trying to sit for the longest time. Besides that, I just don't like our track enough to go anymore. The all-week tailgate parties on the other hand....

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This is how it's done.

Nascar is cheap compared to other sports for sure. I got charged 50 bucks to park at a steelers game this year plus the tickets are outrageous. I pay 75 bucks a ticket on the start finish line at Martinsville and 112 a ticket for the same seats in Charlotte for the coke 600. Knockout qualifying is great in my opinion just not on the plate tracks. I'm sure attendance and TV ratings will back up that the majority of fans like it as well. I hope they keep it but go back to single car qualifying at plate tracks.

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Kaitlyn Vincie is a goddess

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That was a ho-hum race until the last 30 laps. I've absolutely never seen all 3 lanes working at the same time and for so long. That was incredible. The suckerhole usually works for 10 seconds. Not a pencil-neck fan, but it's cool that Ford won.

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311-420's boy was out with a broke leg and the 24 was on the pole.

I didn't even watch. :santa:





Big Ron

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Brian france can eat shlt! So can all the other rich, greedy track owners who would rather save a buck than provide safe environments for the drivers who make the sport that they capitalize on.

There's absolutely no reason for even a single wall, whether it be an inside wall or outside wall, to not have already been converted to a safer barrier.

SHAME ON EVERY TRACK OWNER WHO IS GUILTY OF THIS.

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Keep Hatin'.

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:agree: :CHEERS:

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^^^^x2!!!!

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Agreed; not a huge fan of Kyle in the beginning but he is growing on me. The man can flat out drive. Feel bad for him, here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

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No, being a FORD man, I dont feel sorry for him for racing on a Saturday night in the 2nd tier that he came up in how long ago?? Congrats to Logano, and felt bad for Brad, my 2 cents, you wanna start putting safety barriers on EVERY track, when the stands are empty because they pass that on to the fans, that will be a bad day for us, after that doesn't work then what?? It is a dangerous sport..he is still alive with that lick so ALOT of safety enhancements worked, they know the risk when they climb in the car on Sunday (and now on Saturday)..as well, when you are in the NFL and you arent performing, you don't get to go back to college and play some more there till you get better. I have always had an issue with guys that MADE it to the top tier of NASCAR, then the guy trying to get his name on the list isn't racing aganist his peers, but instead being overshadowed by someone making millions, I know I will catch a bunch of s**t for that, nothing aganist Kyle, just hating the game, not the player. Now I have to sit back and wait for Roush to somehow get a decent driver and get rid of Ricky "I always seem to finish around Danica"Stenhouse.

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I disagree about the safety barriers, as time goes along, safety improves, so has the advancement in helmets and rules in the NFL for concussions. Same thing, just different animals.

As far as the bigger names racing in the lower leagues, simple, it brings fans in that would normally not watch the lower fields. It is also a good measuring stick to those new drivers that are entering the field. If they can beat the greats then they are ready to move up. I really when the big names go down to the grass roots level and race, brings those leagues in the spot light where there is very little attention. But, there are always risks when those drivers dip into those leagues, look at Stewart and now Bush. They are around less proven drivers so the risks do go up. I am very pleased at Nascar for not allowing them to run for the championship in both levels, this is a good thing.

Nothing against Larry, just a different opinion. :thumbsup:

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Was looking for the race and find out it is on Fox1??? Then go to the race schedule and find out this isn't the only one, and later races are coming on NBCSN as well? Who got ate up with a case of the big stupids?
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-c.../schedule.html
I'm not currently paying for the ridiculous upgrades I have to shell out extra bucks for to get these premium channel upgrades, and this isn't going to make me reach into my wallet deeper to do so. Consider this viewer pretty much lost.

:borg:

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All I have is expanded basic cable and I get Fox 1. Cable is such a ripoff , though. I pay $200 just for basic cable and internet. No HBO or anything.

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I didn't hear all of what Harvick said about Nascar being stagnant, but I can agree with him if he meant they need a better variety of tracks. Right now you have 8 races that are 3/4 mile or shorter/road courses. You've got 28 races that are 1 mile or bigger tracks.

To me, they need to add two more road course races at Sonoma/Watkins Glen, plus add another road course race at another track (2 races). They should add two Iowa Speedway races to the Cup schedule (7/8th's mile) and add another two race short track to the schedule also.

This would give you 16 short track/road courses and 20 one mile and bigger tracks. That's a far better variety. I hate the points system and this "win and you're in" crap, but I know that isn't gonna change. They'll probably just make it worse.

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Nice job by the 88 team. I couldn't believe that thing made it the last 7 laps with the water temp pegged and still won. True testament to their engine dept.

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I agree...great job by DJR & 88 team. Longest 7 laps ever.

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Looks like Kyle Busch (broke leg and all) won in Sonoma.

Guess 311-420 is still celebrating :CHEERS: or asleep :28:






Big Ron

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It was a fun race; hard racing everywhere. I was actually glad to see Kyle win it and I am not a hardcore Kyle fan, in fact I really did not like him when he was younger but he is growing on me.

My only complaint is JR should have gave Smoke chrome horn on many occasions, he was just to nice to Smoke only because he knows Tony is a hot head and would have hit him back; but if the role was reversed Tony would have moved Jr out of the way without a single thought.

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I should add, the broadcast coverage was terrible once again. They need to give more coverage to people in the back of the field, more specifically when a 5th place car is sent to the back of the field for a rules violation, I would love to see him race back up through the field, that would be exciting to watch.

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I work on Sundays so I have to record and watch later. Unfortunately, social media and people here at work tend to spoil the endings of the race's for me. But I'll take a spoiler like this every week. :23:

Go KB! :gears:

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Sometimes I wish they'd just shut up, go to the camera mounted either to the front fascia or roof and leave it there on that one car. Let us watch the race from the drivers point of view. See what he sees. Hear what he hears.

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Freakin Little E :mad:
As usual, Danica right in it at the start

Amazing how good the fence worked, could have been ALOT worse, I call first dibs on motor/tranny combo

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...fans/29756453/

Loved the front bumper cam, good call 311-420 (BTW your boy been looking a little rusty, bad spot trying to get in top 30, taking some risk to get there)

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whoohooo! Go Dale! :butt:

It was a late night and I am super happy with not only the outcome but the TV commentators are actually good on NBC! Just seemed like they spoke with knowledge and not what everyone wanted them to hear, loved how Latarte was completely disagreeing with running in the back at the beginning of the race and explaining why, even so far as to disagree with other 'drivers' opinions. I liked it. Of course Burton was good as well; met him a few times and he seemed very genuine.

The fence worked and did its job but man was it close to its breaking point. I was jumping up cheering Jr. but then sitting right back down thinking OMG!!! Whew, that was a close one.

Jimmy did everything he could but Jr was a monster last night.

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I literally just got off my flight from Florida. I was there last night. I was 11 rows up from the bottom 100 feet past the wreck. The fence did do its job but man...scary stuff. I was showered with dust,rubber and whatever else but nothing more. Me and my wife are fine but 12 others were treated at the scene. Thankfully nothing too serious as far as I know.Wow...unreal. Very happy for the 88. He was a rocketship all race long.

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Wow!!!

BTW, I saw two types of people in the stands at the end of the race on TV:
1. Stood up with hands in the air yelling in excitement
2. Ducking for cover to save their life

I can only imagine being there and that close. Seems scary.

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He won last week. Not too awful rusty. :smokin:

I'd never sit near the track at a super speedway. Hell, sitting about 25 rows up coming out of turn 4 here in Texas I got hit with rubber last time I was there. I love racing but F that.

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Not my first super speedway race by any means but I understand what you mean. I'd still take the same seats again...

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You're braver than me! The thought of a wheel or engine/trans landing on me is enough to make me sit away.

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Yeah, i did both in that exact order. People at home here ask if I saw the wreck, I said see it? I felt it. Kind of scary yes but I'd do it again. Plan to go again in Feb.

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#$%^ the 88 team! :anger:I've "offically" jumped on the #18 bandwagon. :worship:

He can drive the wheels off of a car IMHO.




Big Ron

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Hendricks in general are not really responding that well to the rule package changes. Seem to have fixed the JGR cars. Kyle is impressive, he is a roll.

I wish Tony would wake up and start driving, I am really tired of hoping he will figure out his issues, just makes no sense why the 41 and 4 are so good and the 14 is just terrible. He seems to be missing that last 5% of drive.

88 looked terrible this week as well, almost like they were using that race to try out some car changes because tire strategy was never really involved. He pitted every chance he had, even knowing it would be impossible to race back to his position.

Felt bad for the 24..

As far as Nascar making such huge changes in mid-season seems a bit off to me. Normally that much of a change is reserved for the following year after many drivers/teams have had time to test the changes.

Still did not really change all the much, the brickyard still got spread way out and passing was not all that great. Fast cars cannot drive through the field, pretty much stuck where you restart, +/- 5 spots. It is ALL ABOUT TRACK POSITION, not the faster driver/car - not winning. I have been lucky enough to go to the brickyard twice, I was there when Gordon slammed the wall and the heat from the fireball was incredible. But, most of the day was boring as it has been for years.

The 10 car was up and down all day, was really hoping she would do better. She almost mirrors her boss in performance.

The 15 seems to always claim it was someone else's fault, Sunday it was all him. lol I actually like Clint, he is also very comical to listen to his in-car, makes for great times. Karma bit him. haha.

I am still liking the booth much better with Latarte, he actually is critical of the strategies and then explains why. Blows the Waltrips out of the water! Nice change, but why the heck does NBC put it on NBCSN; so many people cannot even tune into that station, and they want to know why ratings are less than expected. My brother has to listen to it on the radio because his provider does not even offer NBCSN.

That's my race recap how I saw it.

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Jeff Burton. My new favorite commentator.

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Agreed!

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I'm liking Steve LeTarte, too, actually. They're bringing more of the technical side of racing into the broadcasts which is exactly what I've always wanted.

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I can't believe SOMEONE ( I won't say who...311-420) hasn't posted up!?!

:borg:

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Give it a little while I'm sure..Nice job Kyle!!!

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Comeback story of a lifetime, perhaps? Well done 18 team! And taking the checkers made it that much more awesome! Hahahahahaha :gears: :claus:

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A lot of people, myself included, were pulling for him to win as a great ending to a comeback story that few others could pull off. It's also a bit of a stick in the eye to NASCAR and its 'rules' package. Good for Kyle!

:borg:

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Congrats to Kyle and well done (still not a fan but I can respect his driving abilities) ... on a side note:

I wonder which team cheated the most this year; Penske, Gibbs or Hendrick and SHR?

All were caught with many infractions this year even up to the end. I loved watching the 48 car's jackman hip check the side of the 48 to give it an aero advantage. That was slick, but still cheating and should have received a much greater penalty than an end of line ruling.

The one thing I noticed this year was it was really these teams throughout the year that would dominate at varying times; I wonder how closely this followed ways that they were cheating but not yet caught. I know it is part of the sport to push the envelope, just curious if this is why the other teams are not competitive, are they just not cheating? Something I think about and figured I would share.

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That hip into the rear quarter panel was hilarious! :23: Chad knaus cracks me up.

End of the line penalty was sufficient in my eyes. I enjoy seeing teams push the envelope in every way they can think of.

Cheating is getting less and less with this new camera system. And those officials are watching the vids like hawks too. I wouldn't have caught the 48 team. That was slick.

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Only 58 more days till the #18 team starts defending its 2015 Championship at the Daytona 500 :worship:





Big Ron :claus:

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And I will be there 14 rows up just before turn 1. I can't wait!

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Longest 90 days of the year waiting for race season to start back up.

Very nice! Are you going to be there the full two weeks?

I can't wait either. We are going to Martinsville again this year and maybe another race. Watched Kenseth destroy Logan this year live while eating a Famous hotdog and drinking beer. It was glorious. We go to at least 2 races a year. I'd really like to make it to darlington.

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I want to hit all the short tracks: martinsville, dover, bristol, new hampshire, richmond

Watching those guys keep a 3400lb. 800hp car under control with other cars inches away the entire time is just the coolest to me.

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No sir. I will be there (Well Pt. Saint Lucie anyway) from 2/18-2/24. Got Sunday tickets but I want to check out some dirt stuff at Volusia also. Maybe Friday....Big block Northeast Mods are my deal....Yup.

Out of those I still need to go to Bristol and New Hampshire. Out of the others Martinsville is definitely my favorite especially now since it's a decider in the chase. I wanna go to talladega for the experience. I think the last track I go to will be Pocono unless we camp inside the track.

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Talledega for sure is next for me. Crazy atmosphere no doubt.