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I'm with ya on that one...I don't agree with what Carl did...but Kelsloski had it coming to him...he's been a jerk on the track for awhile and has shown no respect to anyone around him...Carl is prob. gonna get a big fine and who knows what else because the wreck he caused was as bad as it was...but I've seen alot of drivers in the past...(Dale Earnhardnt Sr.) do it for years and always get a slap on the wrist...pay back is a b*&^% sometimes

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He didn't punt him at over 190mph and endanger fans. Brad could have been killed and was lucky to have escaped unhurt. He should have waited until Bristol or Martinsville. I'm not opposed to him getting even but you have to use better judgement than he did today.

NASCAR will use this to get a little spike in viewers. It was the main pic on their site minutes after it happened. It's gonna make punishment pretty tough because they need to keep Carl available to take advantage of the PR bonanza. :soapbox:

At least we don't need to hear about JJ or Danica for awhile. :23:

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Maybe they will screw Edwards out of a Championship
like they did to Mark Martin in 90 or 91.
Good to see Petty's teams do well.
They have not been up front for years.

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Let me ask everyone this; if this had been Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon, or Kyle Busch pulling this low crap that Carl Edwards did, how many of you would be screaming to ban them? Sorry, because Edwards is in a Ford and appeases to many of the Roush fans here it is acceptable; it was a pathetic move.

I lost all respect for Carl Edwards when he pulled the low life crap with his teammate Matt Kenseth a couple of years ago After that incident, I no longer was a fan of Edwards. I don't think he is worthy to drive a car for Jack Roush.

For the record, I can't stand Keselowski. But at 190 miles an hour I wonder how Edwards would have felt if Keselowski or worse yet, a fan left Atlanta in a body bag. Bottom line, STUPID :crazy:

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I would!!:23:

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I think Carl atleast should have to pay for the car he destroyed. There is no excuse for what he did. If you have a problem with someone, you deal with it that race.

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Jeffy DID do that stuff.
He pulled all kinds of stunts.
He passed below the yellow line at Daytona
and almost wrecked Ricky Rudd and Rusty.
THAT is why the yellow line rule was implemented in the first place.
Edwards has ballls, and Keselowski got what he deserved.

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Sorry, don't see it that way. Ricky had his incidents, Rusty also had his, no doubt so did Gordon. The is a difference between youth or aggressive driving from that of wrecklessness. In fact the most notorious driver of aggression in Dale SR. never pulled this crap the way Edwards did.

I agree, Keselowski deserves to be taken out of races. Keselowski is a punk who's even worse than Kyle Bush with taking out drivers, but not at a track running 190mph. The only balls Edwards has are the ones between his ears he calls brains.

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After seeing a replay of what happened at 'Dega and haveing seen the incident early in the Atlanta race, I'd say Carl shouldn't have been put in that position by NASCAR, Brad should have been called down. Carl got back at him, it's done, and both shold have gotten the probation.

:borg:

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Carl did right thing because what Brad did to Carl last year at 3 races they race at, last year.

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If a NASCAR official or randomly selected fan had to ride in EACH car what do you think the rule would be. Payback don't sound so good if you have to ride with Edwards, Bush, Brad, or Denny. I think we are already hearing talk from the drivers about avoiding payback on BIG tracks.

Reference Carl and balls; if balls alone were enough many more could race Cup. It takes brains and I think he has those too; he just uses them less than he should. It must not take balls ................... Danica seems to be doing fine. If the media is any judge. :confused:

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All I can say is that the Lawers are loving this. The first person to get hurt or killed Nascar will be out of busness.

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I too think Carl should have used a lot better judgment in what he did. At those speeds, anything can happen.

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Wow. That was a pretty wild finish after Hamlin made what I thought was an insane pit stop with 8 laps or so left. I thought Gordon might have had a lock up win, but he got shoved out of the way. :23:

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So is Gordon gonna get put on probation too after his post race comment....when he said "I made sure he didn't win the race" referring to Kenseth...how is that any different than Carl booting BK so he didn't win? I don't get Nascar anymore...if certain people they like do certain things it's never a problem...This sport has gone to crap!

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I agree with you, but they will say it was not a 200 mph. Don't see how he could lie about it either. Sounded kinda' like he was proud of it too.

I got as excited as I did the night Labonte / Earnhardt got in to it at the 1999 Bristo race!

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I haven't heard the post race comments other than the limited clip on my Sprint phone just after the race, so I can't say if Gordon said that or not (I'll assume he did). Even if he did say that, your argument won't work compared to the bonehead move by Carl Edwards; there is a big difference between the two.

Edwards was 153 laps down when he intentionally took out a driver on a 1.5 mile track with speeds approaching 200mph. This move put BK's life at risk, other drivers lives at risk, and spectator lives at risk. Kenseth and Gordon(notice both) were bumping and rubbing on a .5 mile track (also the shortest track in Nascar) and fighting for position and trying for a win at around 100mph. It was not a 1.5 mile track with speeds over 200mph (there it is Big Ron), no drivers lives were at risk and no spectators lives were at stake. Both Kenseth and Gordon were fighting for position.

A quote from Days of Thunder:

Cole Trickle: Yeah, well this son of a bi*** just slammed into me.

Harry Hogge: No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he *rubbed* you. And rubbin, son, is racin'.


Sorry, big difference in Martinsville between Gordon/Kenseth than what happened a few weeks ago in Atlanta. I'm not saying it's right, but that is how it's always been at these .5 mile tracks.

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Looks like we (Ford) will be losing Kasey Kahne (again) to Hendricks after this season. He'll probably drive Stewart/Haas next year and then go to the main team, replacing Mark in the #5 car.

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/head...011/index.html

:borg:

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With the crap he pulled before with Ford, I say good riddance.

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His history wiht Ford is certaily tainted, and I'm wondering if that had anythign to do with him jumping ship. I'm only hoping that the bandwagon he's jumping on starts to fall apart at the seams. The Hendricks juggernaut is definitly a bad thing for the overall enjoyment of the 'sport'.

:borg:

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They're calling for rain here this weekend...I'm not going to be a happy camper if they post pone til monday because I won't be able to go if they do:eyes:

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What are the TV ratings like nowadays?
Bet they suck.
And when is the FR9 engine going to be used by all Ford teams?

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The FR9 had been pulled for the last few races. Don't know what's up, but wiht the lackluster performance of all of the Ford teams of late, it obviously needs some work.

:borg:

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I wonder if Al would do some..........................

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Don't worried Ford be ok this weekend.

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Guess you didn't make it.....sorry to hear that. It did look like a good crowd for a Monday though. DMN listed attendance as 92,500. Dale Jr is good, just everybody else is better. They just left him standing still at the finish. Glad to see the 24 in the wall. Good win for Hamlin!

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The best part of the race was Gordon egging Johson on over the radio. I think the comment was somethign ot effect of 'Mr. Four-time not liking' a particular move Gordon put on him. Too bad none of the Ford can seem to put together any kind of race. Really frustrating.

:borg:

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I went to the Texas race back in '02. On Sunday it was like a tropical storm going on. While my one friend drove, me and my other friend proceeded to get trashed while we did a 3 hour circle around the outside of the track waiting for them to cancel the race. It was great. Came back the next day and saw the race.

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ASSCAR is so boring now, it is really getting pathetic.
There was a time when I could not wait to watch or go to the race,
now I couldn't care less.
Now Waltrip kisses Toiletta's rear end every chance he gets.
Absoluely sickening.
Brian the pansy France really ruined it.

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The race yesterday was pretty quiet until the wreck at the end. If it's a Saturday night race, I can pretty much watch the whole race and be interested, but most of the Sunday races I just catch bits and pieces. Yeah, you've got alot of room to stretch out in the grandstands now at the tracks. I remember going to afew races back 10 years ago and you practically shoe-horned yourself into your seat.

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3rd on Sprint and FTW on Nationwide! Go rowdy!




Let the flaming commence

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The big one is coming this weekend:eek:

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That was actually a good race. And it's nice to hear that Gordon has jumped off of the JJ bandwagon and is now alongside the rest of us in hatin' on JJ & Co.

:borg:

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That was a good race. I always enjoy the restrictor plate races. From the wrecking standpoint, it's almost inevidable. I also look at the talent it takes to keep those cars 1ft. apart at 200mph. Blows my mind. The second big wreck before the end of the race happened right in front of where I would have been camped in the infield. We camp right at the fenceline of turn 3@4. Glad to see Johnson and Gordon can't get out of each others way. :LAUGH:

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Toiletta didn't win, Gordon and JJ crashed.
Great day.

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Rowdy got in the top ten! Good points day, indeed.


Anyone know who won nationwide??

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Brad Kesolowski (sp?).

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It was a wreckfest. Haha, this will probably upset the Brad haters out there.

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I agree. Just sitting at home it looks like they could just go 3 or 4 wide whenever, but at 180+ coming out of turn 3 the chute gets to be pretty narrow. Even more appreciation after doing Laps For Charity in your own car and only doing 110+................

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It was good race yesterday but Fords didn't win, Greg didn't take crap from Jimmy,

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that bum j/k. nascar was getting boring to me also, then this yr i joined a nascar pool. u are only allowed to pick one driver once a year ie u cant pick jimmy j each week. yesterday i picked brad k now im 4th in points outta 36 people. its kinda cool cause u root for a different driver each week. actually brad was doing great then a wreck happened in front of him and had no were to go.

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atleast nobody flipped upside down. looks like this new spoiler is working.


kyle moved up 1 spot in points to 6th. im pleased:COOL:

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this past sat was opening week at watkins glen for car clubs. me and about 20 other stangs met up in the town and went to the track to do some laps. god that was the most fun i had in the mach yet. she loved it, u wernt allowed to pass the guy in front of u but was still a blast.:COOL:

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A Kyle Bush fan. Interesting. Not because he's with Toyota or anything, I just don't know any Kyle Bush fans. I think the guy is a hell of a driver, and makes alot of ballsy moves, but sometimes it really bites him in the butt.

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Real classy too, like smashing the guitar trophy.
Real classy.

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just turned 24 and on pace to break every major nascar record. i respect and admire him. call me an idiot.

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OK.
Did he earn his way up like,
oh, let's say, Bill Elliott, Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison.
No, he didn't.
Did he earn his way in by building his own engines and cars?
No, he did not.
Kinda like admiring the guy who bought a building,
instead of who designed and built it.

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:31: Yeah, I saw that one. He needs to do some growing up definitely.

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lets see...did ANY of todays drivers? No.

theres only one chance to be a part of the founding group of something, and he wasnt a part of it. wasnt his darn fault.

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he was 23 and excited! everyone on this site woulda crapped on themselves if they were in his shoes at the end of that race. everyone.

we've all done things in the heat of the moment we regret. <----not saying kyle regrets what he did. but if he did, hes got a darn good excuse.