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G 11-02-2008 07:25 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1067537)
Edwards won on fuel mileage, and led 200+ laps.
Picked up 77 points on the 48 car.

I know, it's been on in the shop. Why did they park the 38 before he got around to the 48. :23:

Bob Osbourne, "there's nothing like a Ford motor"!!!!!!!!! :worship:

birdman941 11-02-2008 07:28 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
The 42 car (Foreign guy) kept slamming into the rear of the 38.
When the 42 passed the 38,
the 38 "accidentally" made a hard left into the 42 before he was clear.
The 42 got absolutely mangled, and ASSCAR sat the 38 for 5 laps.
38 decided to park it.
Sounds like retaliation for that road course wreck the 42 caused,
when he pinched off the 38.
Fair is fair.

falcongtho3 11-02-2008 07:43 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Let's hear it for Fusion fuel milage!

Now, if only JJ can continue wiht the same kind of luck that shrub had at the beginning of the chase!!

:borg:

birdman941 11-02-2008 07:56 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1067545)
Let's hear it for Fusion fuel milage!

Now, if only JJ can continue wiht the same kind of luck that shrub had at the beginning of the chase!!

:borg:

Amen brother.
If Yates is building the motors,
why aren't the Yates cars competitive?

falcongtho3 11-02-2008 09:35 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1067552)
Amen brother.
If Yates is building the motors,
why aren't the Yates cars competitive?


Either suspension set up (which you would think would be better with Roush input) or the drivers (ah, ha).

Even Biffle and Kenseth had respectible runs today.

:borg:

02mach1 11-03-2008 12:48 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1067537)
Edwards won on fuel mileage, and led 200+ laps.
Picked up 77 points on the 48 car.

two races to go,

ylopony 11-03-2008 05:24 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1067586)
Either suspension set up (which you would think would be better with Roush input) or the drivers (ah, ha).

Even Biffle and Kenseth had respectible runs today.

:borg:

To bad Biffle don't have a chance to overtake the lead. The class of Roush and in fact Nascar. Kenseth is pretty good himself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1067637)
two races to go,

As for Edwards. Sorry, I was on that band wagon and jumped off. I don't like his arrogance, lack of team play(taking out an entire team in a race, and his Busch like attitude. Sorry Ford or No Ford, Roush or no Roush, Not gonna cheer for that 99 car anymore.

As for the races left, sorry he's not going to catch JJ.

02mach1 11-03-2008 05:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 1067890)
To bad Biffle don't have a chance to overtake the lead. The class of Roush and in fact Nascar. Kenseth is pretty good himself.



As for Edwards. Sorry, I was on that band wagon and jumped off. I don't like his arrogance, lack of team play(taking out an entire team in a race, and his Busch like attitude. Sorry Ford or No Ford, Roush or no Roush, Not gonna cheer for that 99 car anymore.

As for the races left, sorry he's not going to catch JJ.

Anything goes now, JJ better watch for the wall next two races:smokin:

G 11-03-2008 10:53 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1067896)
Anything goes now, JJ better watch for the wall next two races:smokin:

You might be right but I hope that never happens. If his engine goes BOOM that's fine but contact from someone shaping the points race would be hard to take.

I'm tired of the Gordon/Johnson bashing -------------- especially with toyata around. Focus people. :23: :23:

falcongtho3 11-04-2008 07:27 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
I'd just like to see some of Carls and Kyles luck rub off on JJ so we can see a historic comeback by either Carl or Greg to put away a Ford championship that is deserved, not handed out.

Also, if we're gonna let imports in the series, why can't it be something cool like Ferrari or Lamborghini or Maserati or Aston Martin? Why does it have to be something as lame as Toyota or Honda?

Lastly; did anyone notice all of the empty seats this weekend? Baaad!

:borg:

birdman941 11-04-2008 07:31 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 1068060)
You might be right but I hope that never happens. If his engine goes BOOM that's fine but contact from someone shaping the points race would be hard to take.

I'm tired of the Gordon/Johnson bashing -------------- especially with toyata around. Focus people. :23: :23:

If Ford decides to race a FOCUS against the toilettas and hondas,
the FOCUS will be a BLURR.
(Non-American brands purposely lower case)

02mach1 11-04-2008 12:10 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1068137)

Lastly; did anyone notice all of the empty seats this weekend? Baaad!

:borg:

I did, I love it it shows people don't like Nascar is doing and it shows.

birdman941 11-04-2008 12:47 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1068137)
.........did anyone notice all of the empty seats this weekend? Baaad!

:borg:


If you listen to Kyle "backmarker" Petty,
he thinks it's the economy.
I think it's the fugly ricer cars and toiletta's presence
that turn fans off.
They never address the subject on TV,
they only spout ASSCAR's position, and don't listen to or ask the fans.

ylopony 11-04-2008 01:58 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1068244)
If you listen to Kyle "backmarker" Petty,
he thinks it's the economy.
I think it's the fugly ricer cars and toiletta's presence
that turn fans off.
They never address the subject on TV,
they only spout ASSCAR's position, and don't listen to or ask the fans.


I think you are correct. There are many like myself who are not part of the good ole boy network that like Nascar and hate Toyletta. However, the huge majority of Nascar fans are still part of the good ole boy network that want nothing to do with Toyletta, Honda, or foreign drivers in Nascar.

Nascar put it's blinders on to their fans and took the $$$$$ that Toyletta was flashing them. In the end it will cost them more in lost fan support than what Toyletta paid Nascar. :crazy:

birdman941 11-04-2008 02:05 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 1068268)
I think you are correct. There are many like myself who are not part of the good ole boy network that like Nascar and hate Toyletta. However, the huge majority of Nascar fans are still part of the good ole boy network that want nothing to do with Toyletta, Honda, or foreign drivers in Nascar.

Nascar put it's blinders on to their fans and took the $$$$$ that Toyletta was flashing them. In the end it will cost them more in lost fan support than what Toyletta paid Nascar. :crazy:

Let's hope so.
The first major telltale sign will be Ford, GM and Chrysler pulling out support.
Hopefully all at one time in a joint news conference.
Who wants to watch a bunch of Jap cars run around?
Certainly not me.
"Uncle Ben presents the Fart Can 500!!!!".
ASSCAR will blame it on the economy (without looking in the mirror of course),
and fail to realize that by allowing toietta to "compete" in the first place,
will be part and parcel to their own demise.
And Brian "The Pansy" France will still have "an effeminate bearing".

ylopony 11-10-2008 12:07 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Once again a dominating win by JJ. Just about all wrapped up. Even those who hate him have to admit that three championships(if he finishes 36th next week) in a row is impressive. :worship:

A very nice showing by one of the forgotten drivers at Roush with McMurray. Carl Edwards also kept his hopes alive.(on life support). However the real downer was the PATHETIC display of immaturity and stupidity of Matt Kenseth at the end of the race. Hitting Almandinger in retaliation for his accidental contact at the end of the race and causing a 10 car accident was stupid. I'm sure that Nascar will hit the pocket book Tuesday. However, I'm sure that Jack Roush was not to impressed by his actions either.

falcongtho3 11-10-2008 07:19 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Would've been a better race if Jimmie had gotten Jeffs motor.
:butt: :23:
:borg:

birdman941 11-10-2008 08:14 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1070417)
Would've been a better race if Jimmie had gotten Jeffs motor.
:butt: :23:
:borg:

:agree:

dcpatters 11-10-2008 11:37 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1070422)
:agree:

I'll give credit where credit is due, the 48 car has been the class of the field. Nonetheless, disappointed with the NASCAR coverage as a whole. Oh, and a really boring season.

birdman941 11-10-2008 12:30 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
I am truly hoping that all 3 AMERICAN manufacturers pull
all support of ASSCAR.
Brian "The Pansy" France has already ruined it
when he allowed toiletta in the door,
mandated the "Car of Tomorrow" with the ricer wing,
and generally being an un-American traitor to the entire
fan base and the manufacturers that made the sport what it once was.
No one will watch ASSCAR with a bunch of toilets running around.
The Pansy can put on whatever smiley face spin he wants to,
but the fact is he destroyed it.
The owners need to start their own series,
with no foreigners (drivers or mfr's) allowed.

Anyone got any Michael Waltrip urinal targets?

(Sorry for being so subtle)

MachWonGuy 11-10-2008 01:13 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1070417)
Would've been a better race if Jimmie had gotten Jeffs motor.
:butt: :23:
:borg:


LOL....well said :)

Have to omit, yesterday was the first Nascar race I have watched in I don't know how long. How would you have felt being the Dewalt car and having a tire go flat during the rain delay....that would SUCK lol

Cars look funny now.....looks like they are drifting around corners and whats with the wing :)

birdman941 11-10-2008 02:22 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MachWonGuy (Post 1070501)
.......looks like they are drifting around corners and whats with the wing :)


Ghey ASSCAR

02mach1 11-10-2008 06:33 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Las Vages race will be call Shebly 427 in Feb 09 here's info www.nascar.com

dcpatters 11-10-2008 07:59 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1070642)
Las Vages race will be call Shebly 427 in Feb 09 here's info www.nascar.com

That's interesting, my Dad was just telling me this. (He lives in Las Vegas)

02mach1 11-10-2008 10:46 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Ford should win that race.

falcongtho3 11-12-2008 08:41 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse....

http://www.fordfusionforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1568

:borg:

dcpatters 11-12-2008 11:51 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1071263)
Just when you think things couldn't get any worse....

http://www.fordfusionforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1568

:borg:


That's not too bad. I remember after I got my Mach in 2003, this was the Pace car. :smokin: I guess Ford offers the latest new vehicle's.

falcongtho3 11-12-2008 02:31 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
I've a copy of a short portion of that race taped when the TR Mach paced the race. I was hoping they'd be using the 2010 Mustang or a Super Snake or GT500 KR or something really cool. This is the opposite of that.

:borg:

birdman941 11-12-2008 02:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
As long as there is no "7 fast and & 7 Furious" race.
It would sound like an old V6 Busch Series race. (Bumblebee swarm)

dcpatters 11-12-2008 02:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1071360)
I've a copy of a short portion of that race taped when the TR Mach paced the race. I was hoping they'd be using the 2010 Mustang or a Super Snake or GT500 KR or something really cool. This is the opposite of that.

:borg:


Yeah, that's a great point. Doesn't make much sense now. I can only guess Ford is pushing the "green" thing.

On a side note, just bought my wife an '09 Fusion with Sport appearance package. Great car. :THUMBSUP:

falcongtho3 11-12-2008 05:04 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpatters (Post 1071362)
Yeah, that's a great point. Doesn't make much sense now. I can only guess Ford is pushing the "green" thing.

Maybe France (the idiot, not the country...oh, wait...I repeat myself) will join the green bandwagon and have them running hybrid cars in 2011-2012 in the Empty Cup Series so that all of the west coast tree huggers can enjoy what we started in the south, refined to a great art...and then saw trashed by mismanagement. Kinda like blackened redfish...

:borg:

dcpatters 11-12-2008 05:09 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1071416)
Maybe France (the idiot, not the country...oh, wait...I repeat myself) will join the green bandwagon and have them running hybrid cars in 2011-2012 in the Empty Cup Series so that all of the west coast tree huggers can enjoy what we started in the south, refined to a great art...and then saw trashed by mismanagement. Kinda like blackened redfish...
:borg:

I guess I am not the only one that thinks France is an idiot. What that knuckle-head has done to NASCAR :anger:

birdman941 11-12-2008 05:31 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
The 'Empty Cup" series! :23: :23: :23:
Ed Begley Jr. Can be the "Lack of Competition" Director! :butt:

dcpatters 11-12-2008 05:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1071427)
The 'Empty Cup" series! :23: :23: :23:
Ed Begley Jr. Can be the "Lack of Competition" Director! :butt:

And to think, France was not happy with ABC's decision on moving the race coverage to ESPN2 so "America's Funniest Videos" would not be affected.

:worship: ABC, you did me a favor.

falcongtho3 11-12-2008 05:35 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpatters (Post 1071430)
And to think, France was not happy with ABC's decision on moving the race coverage to ESPN2 so "America's Funniest Videos" would not be affected.

:worship: ABC, you did me a favor.


They MOVED it?!?! I thought it was an entry on AFV!

:borg:

dcpatters 11-12-2008 05:38 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1071431)
They MOVED it?!?! I thought it was an entry on AFV!

:borg:

:23: That was brilliant falcongtho3

gvervoren 11-16-2008 08:31 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Well it seems that Jimmy Johnson may be the best of all time. Including people like Dale Earnhardt and Cale Yarborough when compared to the competitiveness of Nascar during their era. Now I'm NOT saying Jimmy is a better driver then those guys but he did accomplished what they did in this era of NASCAR when it is a lot harder to do it. Here is an article that shows stats to show this. It basically says that Jimmy did what they did but with a lot more competitive teams to race against which I firmly agree with and have been saying for a while. If these NASCAR legends such as Earnhardt, Yarborough, and Petty were racing in NASCAR in this era, they would not have the wins and championships like they had back then. It is much more competitive now days then it was back then.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...ong-the-greats

falcongtho3 11-16-2008 08:37 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
There was that OTHER guy this year. The one who came in second place in champoinship points in two different series. Not too shabby on his part...I think it was Edward Carl or something like that...

(I can't think of it, and it seems no one else in the media knows what he did, either)

Congrats to JJ on his acomplishment, and to JG for proding him...along, I meant to say proding him along...I really did!

:borg:

dcpatters 11-17-2008 01:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 1072806)
Here is an article that shows stats to show this. It basically says that Jimmy did what they did but with a lot more competitive teams to race against which I firmly agree with and have been saying for a while.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...ong-the-greats

I am not sure how many competitive teams there are these days. Between Johnson, Edwards, and cough, cough Busch, not really too much going on.

Off topic, and will NASCAR stop allowing teams to transfer points, swap team drivers, cars, etc. :grr: I guess Scott Speed received his Daytona 500 starting spot on a silver platter thanks for Vickers.

birdman941 11-17-2008 02:36 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Although I still don't like JJ,
I will buy stuff at Lowes, when Ace doesn't have it.
Mainly because they sponsor an American car, and Home Depot doesn't.

ylopony 11-17-2008 03:22 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 1072806)
Well it seems that Jimmy Johnson may be the best of all time. Including people like Dale Earnhardt and Cale Yarborough when compared to the competitiveness of Nascar during their era. Now I'm NOT saying Jimmy is a better driver then those guys but he did accomplished what they did in this era of NASCAR when it is a lot harder to do it. Here is an article that shows stats to show this. It basically says that Jimmy did what they did but with a lot more competitive teams to race against which I firmly agree with and have been saying for a while. If these NASCAR legends such as Earnhardt, Yarborough, and Petty were racing in NASCAR in this era, they would not have the wins and championships like they had back then. It is much more competitive now days then it was back then.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...ong-the-greats

Time will tell whether Jimmy is one of the all time greats.(my belief is that he is). However his three in a row is incredible. He has also won a boat load of races in such a short period. He is an unbelievable driver. Also, to the JG bashers. If he was racing under the old format he would have won the title last year and two others as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcongtho3 (Post 1072808)
There was that OTHER guy this year. The one who came in second place in champoinship points in two different series. Not too shabby on his part...I think it was Edward Carl or something like that...

(I can't think of it, and it seems no one else in the media knows what he did, either)

Congrats to JJ on his acomplishment, and to JG for proding him...along, I meant to say proding him along...I really did!

:borg:

As for the other guy, I think he's a bit of a hot head and somewhat of a showboat, but he can flat out drive a car. One heck of a year from Carl Edwards. Very impressive indeed.

As for why the media can't remember it, it's like the World Series runner up or the Super Bowl loser, no one can remember who they are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1072989)
Although I still don't like JJ,
I will buy stuff at Lowes, when Ace doesn't have it.
Mainly because they sponsor an American car, and Home Depot doesn't.

I'm with you, Home Depot lost my business when they signed that contract with JGR and Toyota.

gvervoren 11-19-2008 07:29 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Here is an article on NASCAR.com showing how Brian France screwed up NASCAR. It shows that on the average, TV ratings are going down in the last 10 races since the chase started. I'm sure this is happening all year but the chart just shows the chase races. Now with the COT cars, a lot of the races are boring. Including Bristol!!


http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/feat...ars/index.html

dcpatters 11-19-2008 07:34 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ylopony (Post 1072999)
He has also won a boat load of races in such a short period. He is an unbelievable driver. Also, to the JG bashers. If he was racing under the old format he would have won the title last year and two others as well.

Definitely, I'll give credit where credit is due, but I am a firm believer Chad Knause has a lot to do with his success.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 1073855)
Here is an article on NASCAR.com showing how Brian France screwed up NASCAR. It shows that on the average, TV ratings are going down in the last 10 races since the chase started. I'm sure this is happening all year but the chart just shows the chase races. Now with the COT cars, a lot of the races are boring. Including Bristol!!

And just forget about any updates on drivers that are not in the Chase. That's all you hear that last 10 races!!!

birdman941 11-19-2008 08:12 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gvervoren (Post 1073855)
Here is an article on NASCAR.com showing how Brian France screwed up NASCAR. It shows that on the average, TV ratings are going down in the last 10 races since the chase started. I'm sure this is happening all year but the chart just shows the chase races. Now with the COT cars, a lot of the races are boring. Including Bristol!!


http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/feat...ars/index.html

I went and posted this on the BB over there.

"The ratings are down and attendance is down.
Why?
The COT is fugly wih the ricer wing.
Brian the Pansy France allowed toiletta in.
No one wants to see foreign cars on the track.
No one wants to see foreign drivers on the track,
nor indycar wannabes.
No one wants to hear the Waltrips kissing toiletta's butt
on every broadcast either.
No one cares about "the chase".
ASSCAR racing has become a joke,
and I hope the Big 3 pull out so "The Pansy"
can see how he has destroyed what the intelligent
members of his family created.
The Pansy drives a Lexus (made by toiletta)
so we all know where head is at,
at least when the suppositories aren't in the way."

dcpatters 11-19-2008 08:19 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1073887)
I went and posted this on the BB over there.

nor indycar wannabes.
"

And F1 drivers. How many are left now? Guess it's not as easy as everything thinks! "Oh, in NASCAR, they only turn left!" Yeah, OK!!!!

I am sure Scott Speed is going to stink up the place too.

ylopony 11-19-2008 08:43 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcpatters (Post 1073858)
Definitely, I'll give credit where credit is due, but I am a firm believer Chad Knause has a lot to do with his success.


Absolutely, without a doubt. Behind every great driver is a great crew chief and Knause is one of the best.

03mach69mach 11-20-2008 08:44 AM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman941 (Post 1073887)
I went and posted this on the BB over there.

"The ratings are down and attendance is down.
Why?
The COT is fugly wih the ricer wing.
Brian the Pansy France allowed toiletta in.
No one wants to see foreign cars on the track.
No one wants to see foreign drivers on the track,
nor indycar wannabes.
No one wants to hear the Waltrips kissing toiletta's butt
on every broadcast either.
No one cares about "the chase".
ASSCAR racing has become a joke,
and I hope the Big 3 pull out so "The Pansy"
can see how he has destroyed what the intelligent
members of his family created.
The Pansy drives a Lexus (made by toiletta)
so we all know where head is at,
at least when the suppositories aren't in the way."

You hit a lot of the points, but also don't discount the cookie cutter tracks that all look & drive the same (no more Rockingham or North Wilksboro), cookie cutter cars (that all look the same....crappy & not like anything that any of the manufacturers actually make) & last but not least, cookie cutter drivers. Let one of the drivers begin to show some personality or emotion and Nascar hauls them to the trailer to "re-educate" them about sponsors & $$.
Nascar used to be a swig of Jack Daniels each week, with personalities, back & forth between manufacturers & owners, excitement & real racing (that, yes involved bumping, grinding & wrecking). Now it is not much more than warm milk. Nothing wrong with warm milk, but warm milk helps you to go to sleep and that is where the sport is slowing going.....to sleep. Where is Jack Kevorkian when you need him. Will the last person who cares about this sport pull the plug when you leave!!
:3amin:

02mach1 11-20-2008 06:07 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 03mach69mach (Post 1074078)
You hit a lot of the points, but also don't discount the cookie cutter tracks that all look & drive the same (no more Rockingham or North Wilksboro), cookie cutter cars (that all look the same....crappy & not like anything that any of the manufacturers actually make) & last but not least, cookie cutter drivers. Let one of the drivers begin to show some personality or emotion and Nascar hauls them to the trailer to "re-educate" them about sponsors & $$.
Nascar used to be a swig of Jack Daniels each week, with personalities, back & forth between manufacturers & owners, excitement & real racing (that, yes involved bumping, grinding & wrecking). Now it is not much more than warm milk. Nothing wrong with warm milk, but warm milk helps you to go to sleep and that is where the sport is slowing going.....to sleep. Where is Jack Kevorkian when you need him. Will the last person who cares about this sport pull the plug when you leave!!
:3amin:

I give Nascar two years before goes under. is like the Trams Ams days all over again,

birdman941 11-20-2008 06:10 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1074331)
I give Nascar two years before goes under. is like the Trams Ams days all over again,

:agree:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...unkwaltrip.jpg

dcpatters 11-20-2008 06:11 PM

Re: NASCAR thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 02mach1 (Post 1074331)
I give Nascar two years before goes under. is like the Trams Ams days all over again,


You know, I would actually say :CHEERS: to that.


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