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There is no doubt that the idiot is a very good driver. In fact, he could very well be a dominate driver for many years. However, in the 5 car he was good but not dominate. Also don't forget he was on a very good team as well.

Even with a good car he still has to bring it home and he has done that 5 times this year. I'll give him that credit. But what I am referring to is the way that car pulls away from everyone else the way it does. That car week in and week out pulls out 6-8 car lengths on a caution restart. I think credit to the team needs some credit as well. I think they are a big part of his success this year.

Yes, I dislike Kyle Busch. But when he is not making right hand turns on an oval track or playing county fair demolition derby with the rest of the field he has become one of the best.

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Stewart and Newman to HAAS CNC racing and Stewart as part owner?

Scroll down to almost half way down the page.

http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm

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Should make Stewrat happy, not that it really matters to me.
I'd hate to see Mark go to HMS. Then I wouldn't be able to call them all a talentless bunch of lucky buffoons...

:borg:

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Anyone else notice that Jeffy cannot drive the COT?
He does not posess the ability,
just as Jack Roush said he didn't.
Haaa haaaa.......................

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Shrub is an AZZ, he never mentioned his brother to offer congrats. Kurt always mentions him. I was happy with the outcome today and from time to time we saw some good racing. Juan is my new hero. :23: :worship:

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That was funny with Juan. Then he openly admits that he did it on purpose.

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Dang, I missed the whole race. I was in the Bahama's at the Atlantis Resort and just got in. I love Juan Pablo. :23:

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Hmmm....Atlantis in the Bahamas...or lame, rained shortened Cup race that did have a WWE level confrontation? Yep, you missed out! :3amin:

:borg:

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Ok it is time for 400 go Carl 99#

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Dumbo lucks out again. No hard feelings about the HMS finshers, either. I can't believe Matt didn't do a better job in getting Edwards a better push to get out in front of Kyle. Carl probably had a better chance with Kurt getting him to the front if it'd gone the full distance.

:borg:

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It was great to see the 24 wreck.

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Actually I didn't enjoy that at all. I was looking forward to seeing him deal with bigears. :23:

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It was great,:23:

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I think I liked the 48s wreck better.

Nothing like a little last lap carnage to make it really interesting. We all knew there was going to be the big one...just didn't expect it when it did. But then, you never do.

:borg:

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Of course you guys know I'm going to say I hated to see the #24 & #48 get taken out. However, you have to admit that Gordon showed all the class in the world with the media. He didn't pass the blame, shove the camera man, or curse to no end. Instead, he showed that he is a class act.

With all that said I really hate restricter plate racing. There is nothing exciting about the last 30 laps taking an hour because of all the cars bouncing off the wall. I think it would have been more exciting watching Busch, Gordon, and Edwards fight it out over the last 10 laps than slow restarts, wrecked cars, and deciding who hit the scoring loop first in the last caution.For me this is not what makes racing interesting. And what is really the most distressing of all of this is that Kyle Busch won again. :eyes:

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That race was making me ill when Gordon, E Jr. and Johnson were 1,2,3, and then the commentators say Martin is going to Hendrick's and he was in 4th place at the time. BAAAAARF!! This reminds me of another team in sports, the New England Patsies. BAAAAARF again.

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I think you need to look at your avitar. The team you display has done far more than the cheating Patriots. I feel the same way about the Squeelers, BAAAAARF. LOL

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The most horrible thing was the coverage on TNT.
Commercial after commercial.
I was only 1/2 watching it and it was very annoying.
A little commercial in the corner of the screen with no race audio,
then, when that's done, another freaking commercial!
It was absolutely sickening.
Just let Fox and Speed cover the races and be done with it.
All others are crap.

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:23: You won't hear a Patsy fan say that. The difference between now and back in the 70's is that their were alot less sources to burn stuff into the ground. Today you have cable tv and the internet to burn everything into the ground even more. Hell, if the Steelers won 4 Superbowls now I'd probably hate them too. :3amin:


I thought the small tv commercials were a good idea. I hate when it goes to commercial and you miss something. I think the one thing they need to do is fire Kyle Petty. I think he sucks. Put Jarrett or some kind of legitimate champion racer in the booth.

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I also liked the idea of the small box for commercials while still seeing the race. The only problem was there were just way to many of them. As for Kyle, give him a little hippie weed and I'll bet he will be just fine in the booth. :23:

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You guys need to calm down and "Hydrate with some COKE ZERO!!"

Are you kidding me? I hate all those **** plugs with products, its like every other word coming out of their mouth. Maybee one every once and a while, but **** kyle, lay off on the product placement.

Other than that, intresting racing.. i dont agree with the end though, i wanted to see an acctual finish.

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ESPN does better then TNT on the races. it should be FOX/Speed &ESPN/ABC Cover the races.

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So the word is JGR is going to announce today officially what we have known since February. Tony Stewrat is leaving Joe Gibbs. I really don't like the guy as a person, however I applaud him doing this. He want's to own his own team and is taking a gamble leaving a successful organization like JGR(Toyota traitor). I don't think Stewrat was very excited about being in a Toyota either.

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He really hates the yota switch and will soon be able to verbalize his distaste for Toyota. :butt:


http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opin...aas/index.html

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Plus, he's had to hand the limelight over to Dumbo! As well as the new kid they've got running for JGR...

:borg:

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I think that is more the reason than Toyota!!

Hey Tony, Enjoy being as competative as Michael Waltrip in your new team!! Take Mike's advice, get as much $$ up front before they see how crappy you run, cheat a little and complain alot, that should get a couple of years before your sponsors begin to bail (if you don't get thrown in jail for punching a kid who asks for an autograph after your 20 consecutive crappy finish).

On a seperate topic, Anyone see the stories about how few fans they had at the Daytona Firecracker 400 (yeah, I know that is what they used to call it back in the day!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2040970/posts

Love the comments on this story. And I love how they blame the lower numbers on the economy. Check the stats on all race tracks over the last couple of years, most will have similiar declines. Heck, if you want spring Bristol tickets, you can buy lots for under face! You might even be able to get some good deals on August race tickets if you look around and stay away from ebay!! Thanks to NASCAR & the powers in control for screwing up a really great sport.

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And another thing is gas prices to, people are not going to,

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I am paying a lot for the tickets I'm getting for the August Bristol race. $0.00 :3amin:

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It used to be a great race when there were drivers I cared about and hated. Now, I just don't care about any of them. You will have a great time. Bristol is an experiance besides the race. Are you camping or staying at a hotel? Do you know where your seats are located?

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I wish I could say that about my tickets and hotel. :eyes:

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Just read that 'Zippy' is not going with Stewrat to Haas/CNC. Very surprised at that. They worked very well together.
With Cup qualifying rained out for Saturday nights race, it'll give more cars the chance to pass up Dumbo...maybe even some Chevys as well!

:borg:

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I heard that also. Also heard that Home Depot is staying with Joe Gibbs. Gibbs is tight with the Co-Founder of Home Depot/ Owner of Atlanta Falcons, Arther Blank.

We should start a pool on when Tony looses it and lashes out at a fan/reporter/crew member/crew chief/nascar official/grandmother/child/puppy as an owner! I say at either the Richmond or Bristol races.

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I'm not sure where the seats are yet cause we will get our tickets in a couple of weeks but we are staying in a hotel in Sevierville (Not sure on the spelling). This will be my second time at Bristol. I went to the day race a few years back.

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I say it will be this weekend in Chicago. This will happen as a result of a three car accident. Dumbo ears will take out Stewart and Hamlin in the final laps of the race knocking them out of 1 & 2. Busch will say for some reason they were not using their hp advantage and I was, so I moved them out of the way. I could care less that they are teammates. In the end Dumbo will make an inadvertant right hand turn on the last lap and lose anyhow.

Stewrat will have a big time meltdown rip dumbo's ears off and then shove them up an ESPN reporters :butt: when asked how he feels about his teammate and being knocked out of the race.

As for Stewrats sponsor next year it looks like Office Depot.

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Haters, I predict number #18 for the win.

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And I predict #18 will be hated regardless of finish...but, he's earned it...

(but I do have to say I really enjoyed Stewrats start last night in the Nationwide series...I've never seen anyone shift into reverse when the green flag drops...)

:borg:

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Now would you be such a big fan of Dumbo if Joe Gibbs were a NY Giants coach instead. :23:
















I think not!!!!!!!

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It's amazing that last night so much of the pre-race was spent talking about toning down the unfair advantage the Toyotas seem to enjoy. They've been relatively untouched since their introduction to Cup/Nationwide racing. NASCAR might actually be listining to their fans and gettign poised to do something about it. My favorite line last night was how a monkey could win in the Camrys. Fit Busch to a 'T'.
Now if NASCAR can steer their way clear of their lastest 'action'; possibly putting money towards ****** *****s ********* campaign...(darn, the p0litical post filter got me...)

:borg:

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They did the same thing when Dodge came back into Nascar. Dodge did'nt win anything the first year or two. Then Nascar gives them a front nose change and then BOOM! Sterling Marlin, a guy who had'nt won a race in ten years suddenly starts winning and driving great. This Chicago night race is great. It now gives me a summer race to possibly go to. Normally, I only see spring or fall races. I refuse to go to a race and sit in 95 degree heat.

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Brian (Traiterous Weasel) France drives a Lexus.
That says it all for me.
What a great American. (NOT!!!)
Wonder what he paid for it.

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He probably got it for free when he let Toyota pace so many races and supply support vehicles (unsold Tundras).

:borg:

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Im actually a Stewart fan but I do like Kyles attitude. And Gibbs is a class act no matter who he coaches for (excluding the cowboys).

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What is Stewart going to be driving next year? Chevy again?

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Yep.
Not a Ford, but at least American.

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Thank you David for the caution.

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Good close ending to the race. I think Kyle drove the wheels off that car. Unreal.

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Yea, im waiting for all the haters to post. :butt:

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Too bad the best car/driver (#17 Kennseth) didn't win. But going from the very back to top 10 in the short time he did it shows what he had. I can't believe I was actually hoping for Johnson to actually pull off the win, but he's only my second least favorite driver.
:borg:

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Well here is the first hater. I absolutely hate the arrogant freaking punk. And I hate Toyota in Nascar even more. However, even with the unfair advantage that Toyota has right now, that was a great move he made on Jimmy Johnson for the win. Credit goes where credit is due.

How many saw the Nationwide race on Friday. Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty were asked about the advantages of Toyota this year. Daugherty kind of sugar coated it and Rusty Wallace pulled no punches at all. He called an ace and ace and said he and other teams have the dyno sheet evidence of the hp advantage. I"m sure Nascar is going to have a nice sit down chat with Rusty on Monday. I'm not saying Toyota or Busch are cheating. They have found a way to get more power out of the car. However, with Nascar trying to set these cars up equally they will need to look at this. But I'm sure that is not going to happen until next year.

As the old saying goes, Money talks and B.S. walks. And Toyota has paid a lot of money to Nascar. I say we just rip the freaking fender wells of the cars allow Honda to come in as well and have another open wheel racing circuit.

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I hate what Nascar has become. Here we are talking about a driver with the last name the same as the most popular brewery in the US that is about to be bought by the Germans, racing a four door, front wheel drive Toyota, while the guy who has the most recognizable name in the sport and used to drive for the soon to be german brewery, languishes at a team where he is easily the fouth best driver there. All the while the best ford team has sold half of the deal to the Boston Red Sox. What is going on here?