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Reloaded 12-10-2007 01:17 PM

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machgsxr 12-12-2007 03:19 PM

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For anybody following this thread, I updated the first post with a parts list with part #'s for what I had.

Enjoy and happy hunting to all.

Reloaded 12-12-2007 03:41 PM

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((9B659))intake tube from maf to t/b.

((9A825))Cruise control cable

((9728))Throttle and cruise control cable mounting bracket


I updated those for you with base numbers so that everything has one. You can edit the first page with them if you'd like. :D

wutang61 12-12-2007 03:44 PM

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thanks guys :THUMBSUP:

Reloaded 12-24-2007 02:22 PM

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Ya know what my question is? I read through that write-up on extreme hp. The elctronics, they didn't mention much about how that all works. Once you bolt everything up and wire it in, it just fires right up without any tuning or anything? That's how it sounded from that guys write up. That just seems odd though because the ecu isn't set up for boost.. Anyone have any clarification on that front? Plus the Cobra uses and IAT sensor and the boost bypass..

wutang61 12-24-2007 02:38 PM

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i remember reading somewhere that they had a dyno shop give them a box tune just so they could start it. ive contacted him a few times already about various things concerning the swap.

Reloaded 12-24-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61 (Post 919613)
i remember reading somewhere that they had a dyno shop give them a box tune just so they could start it. ive contacted him a few times already about various things concerning the swap.

Ahhh ok, that makes more sense. What have you asked him about? maybe it's the same sort of stuff i'm wondering.

wutang61 12-24-2007 02:43 PM

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the part i hate doing the most... grinding sh!t off the block.

the alternator wiring

intercooler pump wiring

some pcv stuff.

im sure im gonna have alot more.

TR04MACH 12-24-2007 11:59 PM

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Well i'm coming along pretty well, i've got everything removed down to the timing cover, just about to pull that since i finally got the tool to remove the harmonic balancer. About half way down on the knock sensor bosses being ground down, those are such a pain in the ***, never expected it to take this long. Such a slow process and getting anything major down in the there is not happening. So far so good. As far as tuning, i'm gonna try to have my insurance company pay for towing to a "trusted shop" to work on my car since it isn't driveable haha. Hopefully that'll work out, don't have too far to go. How's your swap coming Wutang?

wutang61 12-25-2007 12:11 AM

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the tool i need for the balancer to come off is on order :D so when that gets here i can make some more progress. im gonna continue grinding down the knock sensor mounts on the 26th.

im gonna call my tuner and have give me a box tune just so i can start her up and check for leaks/gauges working properly and then have it towed 50 miles to his shop so he can work his magic. :THUMBSUP:

wutang61 01-05-2008 03:39 AM

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hey guys, im going to send my blower to stiegemeier for a stage 1 port and full rebuild. anyone going to get any port work done?

machgsxr 01-05-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wutang61 (Post 928189)
hey guys, im going to send my blower to stiegemeier for a stage 1 port and full rebuild. anyone going to get any port work done?

Go with a stg 4 for just a little more. You should have sent it in last month as they were having a discount.

I can't see myself spending that much for a ported eaton with upgrading to a whipple by the end of this year.

So with that being said, I'm going to take apart my s/c and port it myself. I already did the plenum. Go to svtp.com and there's some good pics of guys doing it themselves with some good gains. After looking it over I think it wont be too hard to do myself and save that $500.

Archie

wutang61 01-05-2008 10:12 PM

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hmm...im worried a stage 4 will be to much for the stock bottom. i mean your talking over 500rwhp.

Shinigami 01-05-2008 10:33 PM

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There are part numbers/lists all over this thread. Can anyone condense it into 1 single list? with prices for the parts that have their prices posted?

I'm finding this thread almost hard to read. Even If its just full parts numbers I'll happily spend time tracking down new Ford prices to post up.

machgsxr 01-05-2008 10:47 PM

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First post has all the part #'s needed to complete the whole swap.

Parts with pictures are on page 2.

There's a cobra guy running a stg 4 at just 475 on a stock bottom. From what I understand it's all in the tune.

Shinigami 01-05-2008 11:03 PM

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ok then I'll work on putting together a part/cost spred sheet :)

wutang61 01-06-2008 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr (Post 928648)
First post has all the part #'s needed to complete the whole swap.

Parts with pictures are on page 2.

There's a cobra guy running a stg 4 at just 475 on a stock bottom. From what I understand it's all in the tune.

i contacted "Dyno Bob" (the head guy over there) and he said this....

Org. post: Hey bob, i have a 04' mach 1 i am doing a Eaton conversion to.(i will be running the stock pulley on it.) i noticed that the pulley (when spun by hand) has a slight wobble to it. so i will be sending it in for a rebuild also i was looking at getting some porting done to help lower IAT as much as possible. what would you recommend?

Reply: We have done those exact set ups with stage 4 with 9-10 lbs boost. Your motor has more compression so that helps with a safe tune.

Thanks and please enclose a note with name and phone number we do call once it arrive s let us know which service's you will be wanting.

BluByU 01-06-2008 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinigami (Post 928661)
ok then I'll work on putting together a part/cost spred sheet :)

X2!!!!!

machgsxr 01-06-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BluByU (Post 928821)
X2!!!!!

It won't be accurate. Alot of the parts can be sourced used for cheap while other's will have to be bought new. Not everyone is going to try and go to the dealer for a lower pulley cage for $400 when you can pick up one used for about 70-120 used.

My kit I put together is running right around 2k right now. That's with alot of extra's that im going to turn around and sell to get some of my money back.

Archie

Shinigami 01-06-2008 04:35 PM

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True, the pricing would be a worse case senario, but it would still be handy to have to tell if you are getting a deal on a part of not.

Nor Cal Mach 01-06-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by machgsxr (Post 929079)
It won't be accurate. Alot of the parts can be sourced used for cheap while other's will have to be bought new. Not everyone is going to try and go to the dealer for a lower pulley cage for $400 when you can pick up one used for about 70-120 used.

My kit I put together is running right around 2k right now. That's with alot of extra's that im going to turn around and sell to get some of my money back.

Archie

Do you already have kits ready to go.?

wutang61 01-06-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Mach (Post 929158)
Do you already have kits ready to go.?

thinking about the eaton swap again? :claus:

Nor Cal Mach 01-06-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wutang61 (Post 929163)
thinking about the eaton swap again? :claus:

HAHA I havent sold the eaton stuff I have. I would rather pay one of you guys to put one together instead of me cause I get pissed off to easily, hahah

wutang61 01-06-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Area Mach (Post 929168)
HAHA I havent sold the eaton stuff I have. I would rather pay one of you guys to put one together instead of me cause I get pissed off to easily, hahah

you have a pm.

machgsxr 01-07-2008 03:34 PM

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Pulley for mount under s/c.
pulley, timing cover drivers side
(8678B) Idler pulley,timing cover pass. side (($14.25))
(8678A) Pulley on drivers side (($14.26))
(6B209A) Tensioner on timing cover (($40.77))
(8260) Radiator hose (($18.98))
(8A593) Radiator hose (($21.27))
(8K576) Radiator hose (($15.18))
(9F715) IAC valve (($50.19))
(9H308A) Intercooler hard lines that hug the block
(8N500) Intercooler pump bracket (($52.73))
(9L443A) Intercooler line that goes from the i/c adapter to i/c res.
(9L443B) Intercooler line that goes from the i/c adapter to the hard lines that hug the block
(9L443C) Intercooler line that goes from the hard line against the block to i/c pump
(9728) Throttle and cruise control cable mounting bracket
(9A825) Cruise control cable (($16.90))
(9A758) Throttle cable (($22.75))
(6C324) PCV tubing (($29.39))
(6020) Timing cover gasket LH side (($7.36))
(6020) Timing cover gasket middle (($4.94))
(6020) Timing cover gasket RH side (($4.81))


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