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MachAssault 05-09-2008 10:35 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JDraper (Post 891088)
I don't think it's a shifter problem. Definitely wasn't in my case. I had both the factory shifter and a Tri-Ax on mine, and had the same problem with both shifters installed. I'm currently using the stock shifter and sold my Tri-Ax. After experimenting with both shifters, I found that for driving on the road, the factory shifter was better for me. Yes, it's looser and less precise than a Tri-Ax, but it's also much less notchy and I don't need to slam it through the gears since I'm not racing it. If I were racing it, I'd definitely have a better shifter, most likely the MGW.

It's more in how the clutch releases, which is controlled by the quadrant and cable adjuster.

Definately MGW is the way to go, i had the tri-ax also before i totaled the Mach . it fell apart on me while driving to work..not very good..

so now ama go with an MGW ...

MachAssault 05-09-2008 11:03 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
alright than, who can install the cables for me hahaha...

JDraper 05-10-2008 08:01 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MachAssault (Post 992581)
Definately MGW is the way to go, i had the tri-ax also before i totaled the Mach . it fell apart on me while driving to work..not very good..

so now ama go with an MGW ...


Howinthehell did a Tri-Ax fall apart on you? They are pretty stout. No much that can go wrong with them when properly installed.

MachAssault 05-11-2008 02:22 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
i thought so too, we all have different opinions but
all i know is that i am going to buy an MGW next..

Dam JDraper i miss my black Mach now...:(

JDraper 05-11-2008 08:15 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
What broke on the Tri-Ax?

MachAssault 05-11-2008 01:29 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JDraper (Post 993046)
What broke on the Tri-Ax?

i didnt say anything broke, i said it fell apart, i meant the two bolts that are on the middle got loose yes both of them, dont know how it just did...one bolt fell throught the middle and got stuck, so i couldnt get to 3rd..i would suggest just checking them from time to time so it wont happen to you...

mach1atlanta 05-23-2008 09:51 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Just wanted to chime in.

I bought a 03 Azure with 39k on the clock having 2 of the issues talked about here.

1) Crappy clutch engagement and not consistently at the same letup point - I fixed this with a Fiore quadrant and adjuster kit. I can not tell you how much better this made the engagement and it's consistent now. It was killing me that I was periodically lurching the car and I've been driving sticks and performance cars for years..... Great fix !

2) Sloppy shifter - I bought and installed the MGW shifter kit with the Mach 1 T-Handle and inner boot. Man, huge improvement and as they say, no more of that missed 2nd-3rd shift feeling. It is a bit stiff, but already beginning to wear in the way it should. I've owned 2 Tri-Ax shifters before and this flat out for me blows them away in terms of positive engagement and feel/quality.

I still need to do the RP ATF and RP oil changes to complete the break in.

Oh, for sure remove the seat if you are doing the quadrant replacement. I am not that big of a guy and I still couldn't properly snake myself under the dash with it in. Once i took it out (all of 5 minutes to do with a socket set), I had the stock quadrant off in under a minute.

Matt

MachAssault 06-29-2008 02:36 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I love this site as much as i love my Mach 1...:) yeahhhh

mach1atlanta 08-13-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
3000 mile checkin/update :

Everything continues to work well, the shifter is still slightly balky at times with a slight grind into 2nd. However, having said that, the MGD is fully broken in now and is awesome, no missed shift at all.

On the subject of the special cocktail of tranny fluid and lucas, all I can say is wow and it's been a god send. I def recommend it for anyone having issues with the tranny.

JasonARGY 08-14-2008 11:10 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mach1atlanta (Post 1032064)
the MGD is fully broken in now and is awesome, no missed shift at all.

On the subject of the special cocktail of tranny fluid and lucas, all I can say is wow and it's been a god send. I def recommend it for anyone having issues with the tranny.

By MGD i assume you meen MGW. Unless you using beer to shift.

As far as the tranny fluid with some Lucas, i agree. i put in some royal purple Syncromax with a can of lucas tranny fix and my tranny shifts WAY better. I still miss third every time while im on if i try to shift too fast but if i just take a little longer and granny shift it, it goes in every time.

Glad everything worked out for you

mach1atlanta 09-28-2008 03:16 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Hah, got me, or rather the beer did. But yeah, it has worked out well.... I just wish we could get some gas down here in Atlanta so I could actually drive it. Sucks that the last week I've been having to drive my wife's car since it uses regular and even that's been hard to find !

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonARGY (Post 1032787)
By MGD i assume you meen MGW. Unless you using beer to shift.

As far as the tranny fluid with some Lucas, i agree. i put in some royal purple Syncromax with a can of lucas tranny fix and my tranny shifts WAY better. I still miss third every time while im on if i try to shift too fast but if i just take a little longer and granny shift it, it goes in every time.

Glad everything worked out for you


vtecDIS 10-01-2008 10:37 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Just bought the quadrant and firewall adjuster...:candles: woo hoo! and for $32 shipped brand new!!! cant wait to do the install !!! :D

NightOfTheCow 10-16-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I'll be placing an order shortly.... over the past couple months I've noticed that I'm getting a nasty clicking/clunking sound when I engage the clutch along with the missed gear and lockout garbage. Almost always had issues with reverse, and occasionally grinding gears because the clutch isn't engaging properly. And I too am tired of the lurching.

blaragh.

TheWaterSkier 10-22-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MachAssault (Post 993148)
i didnt say anything broke, i said it fell apart, i meant the two bolts that are on the middle got loose yes both of them, dont know how it just did...one bolt fell throught the middle and got stuck, so i couldnt get to 3rd..i would suggest just checking them from time to time so it wont happen to you...

Wow, I hope you just got one that was incorrectly assembled. I installed mine when I got home from purchasing the car (about 30 miles). I now have 57,000 miles on the car and of course as much on the shifter with no issues to date.

I will check those bolts though :eek:

Red Baron 11-19-2008 10:48 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I have a 03 mach 1 and have this problem for awhile now...

My second gear grinds all the time, slow or fast speeds. Also my reverse gear won't go in. and when it does, I have to force it, that is when the grind starts and finally slows down and clicks in...

Thank You

GroverDill 03-14-2009 09:54 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I was having the same problems, new clutch quad kit today fixed it all! It is so much better and it even make the shifter quieter!

Guys this is a MUST DO!

hoopty 03-15-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
JINXED!!!!

I've notice a little grind into 2nd no 3rd lockout until tonite:eyes: were I had both. Of course i read this thread last night......:anger:

Parts ordered, guess it's better to know what it is when it happens

Apollo240 03-15-2009 11:29 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
My dern throwout bearing whines....and I got the firewall adjuster all the way in....but it seems to go away after the car warms up

ScreamingMach46 04-01-2009 06:45 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Just did this yesterday, wnated to install it before I go to the strip this weekend, took me 2 hours to do it but if I did it again it would only take me 30 min.
I had a hard time trying to cut off the plastic piece that is bolted to the firewall that you have to remove, so what I did was place it against the strut tower in a no-painted solid place and hit it with a hammer.
It cuts down on install time and hand cramps from trying to cut hard plastic.

black2kmax 04-07-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I just got around to installing my fiore clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster. Everything went great right up until the very end. I believe that my cable came off at the transmission. :confused: Can one of you guys tell me the correct way to reattach this cable. I am sure that it is not hard but I think I am going to have to break down and get a floor jack and some jack stands today. Of course its raining and my Mach is down.

Also the clutch quadrant only came with one plastic spacer but there is alot of play on both shafts I plan on just buying some flat washers to take up the slack. I assume that is what everyone else did as well.

Thanks

Dave

black2kmax 04-07-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Well a jack and two jack stands later and all is right in the world. Install was not too bad but of course I had to make a run to get the jack and jackstands and I stopped off at Home Depot and picked up some nylon spacers to get the quadrant lined up correctly. I only took it for a quick spin around the block but it feels smoother for sure. It was still doing a little grind on the 1-2 shift so I took out some more slack and it seems better now. Just did not want to go to tight right off the bat.

In summary seems to be a good mod and I finally got around to buying some stuff I needed anyway.

Next up 4.10's no wait subframe connectors or maybe......crap I don't know. Every time I get a Mustang the desire to modify just takes over.

djsmach1 07-27-2009 09:09 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Another believer! MM quadrant and steed fwa. Adjusted clutch to engage high along with tranny fluid change with lucas mixture. No more third problems!! :smokin:

Mach1 Of A Kind 08-04-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
Some advice please. I have read and searched this problem from top to bottom and I am sure my problem is the clutch quadrant. My question that I can't seem to find the answer to is this. I bought my 2004 Mach1 from a guy that said he raced the car allot and I have raced it and shifted it hard as well. Since I bought the car it has been hard to get into reverse and has the grind into third. As of last night it wont go into third unless you are shifting under 3000 rpm gently. I know this is quadrant issue. But when the car is idling in neutral, with clutch peddle out, there is a clunking and knocking sound from the trans like two gears hitting each other. Could the 3rd gear syncro be shot because nobody updated the clutch quadrant. Will this problem fix itself with the install of the new clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster or is my trans syncro's shot because of the noise I am getting in neutral.

Mach1 Of A Kind 08-05-2009 12:02 AM

Re: Lock-out, missed shifts - Mystery solved?
 
I'm going to drain and check the oil for pieces tomorrow. I ordered the clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster today.

Anybody? (Mach1Marauder) anything to say even negative.


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