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I love NASCAR coming right out and making sure everyone knew Biffle was the winner.
Translation: Shut up you whinning little wusses, and let the man enjoy the win. It's not all about the rest of you tonight!
:borg:

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HaHa, Clint said both JJ and JG told him he really won. :23:

I had to go read the rule book myself, NASCAR actually got this one right too. :soapbox:

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Don't they always?!? :rolleyses

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No, because when they don't, they re-write the rules.:MADNOEL:

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I missed the race but did catch all the news on it and must say it sounded like a bunch of babies were out on the track that day. Especially the Hendrick boys. What a bunch of ---'s! Stewart was hit harder by the #2 car than Kyle busch was hit by the #8 car. Of course the news had to go on about Jr's "stupid move" since he's not "in the chase". At least Jr was a gentleman about it and admitted he screwed up. Johnson whining about how many points he needed when Biffle actually won? F-- Johnson! NASCAR might as well make a race ONLY for the chase contenders since they think they are the only ones with anything to gain. What a mess!

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ASSCAR could shut the winers up by fining them and making them finish in the back.
After all, Hendrick whiners, you are not allowed to pass under caution.

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I could have sworn that you had to maintain pace speed behind the pace car to finish in your current position even if the field was locked. That is what they have done in the past at least when a caution came out. If that is the case, then Clint Bowyer should have won. Another point is, why was Stewart and his team so concerned about running out of fuel when the rain came? The caution already flew and the field was locked. He wouldn't have won if HE ran out of fuel. I don't know, maybe they do it different for the end of the race. IMHO, the Hendricks boys and Clint Bowyer had a legitimate "concern" about the result. People are just making a big deal out of it because Jimmy and Jeff were two of the people complaining. (No I am not being bias cause I am not a diehard Hendricks fan) This is just my $0.02

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The rule book does not mention the pace car or finishing with fuel on the last lap. It calls for reasonable speed and having no assistance to cross the finish line. The other issue is the car was not out of fuel. To remove all doubt they should have let him drive it to victory lane. :eyebrows:

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I can't believe how good the Toyotas did on qualifying! Not to mention that Michael Waltrip is sitting on the pole! We'll have to see how they are going to do in race conditions though. Of course this is Talledega so anyone can really win.

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I wish they would put me in a fast car out there. :eyebrows:

Seriously there is a lot of discussion about the experience level of some in the field and the setup of the top qualifing cars. They better have a plan for getting into race trim. :yeh:

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Bad news...............the 24 car won!:loser:

Big Ron

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Did anyone else find this race...well, dull? Other than the crashes at the end, it just seemed like watchign a train. I really didn't understand the Ford group running in the third pack for the first half of the race. This is going to get weirder before it gets better...
:borg:

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COT! :OUCH:
They are going to keep these boys within 3/10 of one another, this is what big track racing has become :blah:

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That's Talladega for ya. If you're not there and half drunk it's boring.

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wrong

Good News................................. The 24 car won.:gears:

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Been waiting for you to come gloat! :tongue:

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So, how you think the inspection is going??????? :eyebrows:

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hahaa

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Well, got my invoice for my four tickets to Bristol Motor Speedway for 2008 races in March & August. $1,400.00 due by November 14. After having these seats for 10 years and seeing some really GREAT races & drivers, I have decided that the new & improved version of NASCAR can go without my $$. If you have your name on the list at Bristol, you might be lucky enough to get own these tickets. Enjoy the ho-hum, plain vanilla racing with COT & the cookie cutter drivers.

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NASCAR ticket prices are OOFC. :mad:

Local tracks are still not to bad. :CHEERS:

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I was in the infield at Kansas Speedway for 4 days in an RV. Total cost for me was $150 for EVERYTHING. That's food, gas, alcohol, and anything else. You can see a race for dirt cheap if you know the right people. All the races I saw before I never saw for cheaper than $400-$500 for all costs. I've got the opportunity to go to Talladega next spring for $250 total. The tickets he has for this race are literally the best infield tickets in the entire track. People would kill for these tickets.

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That's my point, you shouldn't have to know the right people, most of my friends are not the "right" people.

I'll stick with the TV and local tracks, Cup is kind of boring anyways recently. :23:

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I'll go to any Nascar race no matter what the price. They are never boring in person, and if you camp in or outside the track, it DEFINITELY aint boring.

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You got that right I'll be at Lowes Speedway this weekend Watching the race with my friends Mark knows who:yeh:

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Pictures Please!!

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I get free Miler Lite beer out of it:CHEERS: :secret:

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Looks like it went well. Last post car inspection that failed was a Roush car I do believe. :smokin:

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Me to 02. We will be in Turn 4.

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I''ll be at Turn 1 a Ford seats.

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Cool. Can't wait!!!!!!

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Noise bleed seats.:santa:

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Next year I will have better seats than looking out the window of this.
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That's a cool pic from the sky!!!

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Nice win tonight for Jeff Burton. :HOPPY:

Great job by JJ to take out so many cars. :wall:

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Yeah...good job. Whatta dolt! Somebody needs to get him more quarters so he can get more seat time in fron tof the grocery store and actually learn how to drive. It's not like this isn't his home track, he should be able to do better than this. Hopefully he'll drive the same way tonight, just with no one around to get slammed by his mistake...except maybe Stewrat and Gordon to share in his 'good fortune'.
:borg:

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:agree: Sounds like you're as big of a JJ fan as I am. :eyebrows:

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Maybe 'bigger'...I let you know after his antics tonight...
:borg:

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So far he's doing ok. He needs to wreck solo tonight if he's gonna do it at all. :yeh:

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It's gotta be tough to come to the realization that Gordon is one of the all time greats in Nascar. Two in a row and now has his sights on Allison, Waltrip, and Yarborough ahead of him in the all time win totals. " Gordon has a realistic chance to reach Pearson for #2 all time. Nobody will ever beat the best of all time(sorry it's not Earnhardt Sr. Or Jr.) Richard Petty.


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I don't think "wins" is the only measure of "greatness". I'm not even sure the best made it into Cup. :)

He did a great job tonight. :smokin:

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Two in a row makes you great? Not so tough to realize others have done that. He's still not that 'great' in my opinion. He can drive and he's with a team that has depth, but he shares something with his second place team 'mate' that just really rubs me the wrong way. I never cared for Earnhardt Sr., but I did respect him. I liked Petty, including his deserved respect. Elliott was easy to like, respect, and follow with his sucess. It's easy to jump on the winners bandwagon, it's not so easy to carry the banner for your favorite (team, driver, or brand) when things don't go your way.
:borg:

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Like it or not, JJ and JG are probably the the best drivers that are in the Nextel Cup series right now.

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Does winning two in a row make a driver great. No it don't. But when you have 81 career wins and 4 cup championships and looking at 5 that makes you great. And yes a great team is important, but you still have to drive the car.I was never a huge fan of Earnhardt Sr. either but he was great. I was not a big Darrell Waltrip fan but he was a great driver.

As for jumping on bandwagons, trust me I am no jump on the band wagon fan of Jeff Gordon. I've been a fan of his for years. Ernie Irvin and Gordon are my favorite drivers.

As for carrying a team banner in good or bad. My friend, you are singing to the choir. I grew up and still live in the Cleveland area. I have been a lifetime Indians fan. I remember going to games with less than 2,000 in attendance and watching through 100 loss seasons.

I have been a lifetime Browns fans. I had my heart ripped out when Modell left for Baltimore. I have watched dismal teams in the 70's. I have watched and cheered for this team as lousy as they have been since they came back. In fact, I'm about ready to head out the door to go to the Browns-Dolphins game here shortly.

I have been a lifetime fan of the Cavaliers. I have watched their abismal years up to the 80's with Daugherty, Price, Nance, and Hotrod. Then the return to bottom dwellers prior to Lebron James.

I appreciate that you do not like or cheer for Gordon. Your opinion of Gordon is your choice. I hate the Steelers. However, they are a great team. I hate the Redsox(which has caused a real problem for me now that they are part of Roush)but they are still a great team.

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I can appreciate all of your points, and very much can relate to those teams you've been true to without kind of positive return. It does look like your Indians could bring some joy to a club who only victories have been on the big screen in 'Major League' (let's forget the sequel, if we may). At least you don't have to try to put up with anything close to the Saints (look for paper bags on the heads of fans to make a return in the coming weeks), a team which could almost do no wrong last year, and their only jewel in a long suffering team history, and couldn't buy a win this year.
So many of the Gordon/Johnson fans that I have to encounter (especially at work) probably couldn't spell NASCAR five years ago, so you can see where the bandwagon thing comes from.
At least Cleveland has sometype of basketball program that has some recognition, we've had the Jazz (now in Utah), and now the Hornets.
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:borg:

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Fixed! Drivers make up a small percentage of a great race team! :D

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:agree: moving to that organization could make a bunch of guys "great". :cool:

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Why isn't Casey Mears winning a lot then?. Granted he is a "good' driver but nothing to the caliber of JJ or JG. And it shows on the track. Casey has the exact same equipment as JJ and JG but he isn't winning no where near as much. Explain that please.

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JJ and JG share the same facility, the 25 is over with the shrubs car. :eyebrows:

Those 4 cars are not alike. We don't like admitting it but I have a cousin that worked on the 24/48. He now works for Delana Harvick. :cool:

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