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hey wu, did you get the eaton new, or used??

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used hardly describes it. its got less then 5k miles on it.

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also guys i got a egr delete for my setup what all could i cross off the "gotta get it" list? just the valve itself and the tube?


also yea what does that lil tube go to coming out the bottom of the lower intake go to?

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its part of the pcv system we usually just plug them off when we have cars that want to make a lot of boost.

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so i can just plug that lil nozzle off at the bottom of the intake?

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Had a question for ya'll on the power steering hoses. Are they all needed for the swap or can you get by only replacing a single one on there? I've been looking for all of them but they aren't too easy to find.

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the only hose that causes a problem (from what i understand) is the return line.

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I don't plan on replacing any of the power steering lines. The return line might need to be bent a little out of the way.

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yea that what im going to do as well. power steering lines are expensive as hell

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What is the recommended shop manual for the car too? I'm looking for something to check out if I have any questions about assembly. Everything posted should be a big help but i'm curious about torquing bolts etc.

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i would get a helms manual for the cobra. the hardest part will be wiring and vacuum hook ups

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Ok, in an attempt to keep this as complete of a resource as possible, I'm going to be going through what Archie already did and update stuff. So just sit tight as I have time, I'll go through stuff.

1. Upper alternator bracket (10A313) Part #: 2R3Z-10A313-AB List price: $172.64 Cost: $77.69
2. Lower alternator bracket (10153) Part #: 2R3Z-10153-BA List Price: $54.09 Cost: $24.34
3. Lower pulley or crankshaft pulley (6312) Part #: 2R3Z-6312-BA List price: $801.67 Cost: $481.00
4. Alternator (10346) Part #: 2R3Z-10346-BA List: $293.52 Cost: $176.11
5. Coolant crossover (8548) Part #: 2R3Z-8548-AA List price: $135.80 Cost: $61.11

Refer to post #28

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Some more parts.

6. Egr (9D475) Part #: XW4Z-9D475-AB List price: $107.09 Cost: $48.19 and egr tube(9D477) Part #: 2R3Z-9D477-AD List price: $62.32 Cost: $37.39 w/ hoses(9P761A & 9P761B) that go to the sensor
7. Coolant Hose (8A593) Part #: 2R3Z-8A593-AB List: $40.87 Cost: $18.39
8. Pulley bridge w/ idlers and tensioner (6B209B) Part #: 2R3Z-6B209-BC List: $382.55 Cost: $229.53
9. I/C pump(8501) Part #: F8YZ-8501-AA List: $403.70 Cost: $201.85and bracket(8N500) Part #: 2R3Z-8N500-AC List: $86.50 Cost: $51.90 w/ hose (9L443C) Part #: 2R3Z-9L443-CA List: $22.16 Cost: $9.97
10. Pulley (8678A) Part #: 2R3Z-8678-BA List: $133.47 Cost: $80.08

Refer to post #29

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Some more..............

11. Coolant hose
12.
13. Heat exchanger lines and hose Part #: 2R3Z-9N491-CA List: $84.77 Cost: $50.86 (9H08 in Ford catalog pic)
14. Intake tube Part #: 2R3Z-B659-BA List:$90.80 Cost: $54.48
15.

Refer to post #30 for pics

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some more.

21. Heat exchanger tubing (9H308) Part #: 2R3Z-9N491-CA List: $84.77 Cost: $50.86 with soft lines that go to the lower intake to i/c adapter
22. heat exchanger Part #: 2R3Z-8K226-AA List: $760.63 Cost: $456.38
23. Plenum (9A589) Part #: 2R3Z-9A589-CA List: $517.82 Cost: $258.91, iac (9F715) Part #: 2R3Z-9F715-AB List: $84.70 Cost: $42.35, t/b (9E926) Part #: 2R3Z-9E926-AAA List: $236.74 Cost: $118.37
24. Heat exchanger tubing (9N491A) Part #: 2R3Z-9N491-DA List: $98.15 Cost: $58.89 w/ soft lines 9L443F Part #: 2R3Z-9L443-FA List: $15.02 Cost: $6.76 and 9L443G Part #: 2R3Z-9L443-GA List: $15.02 Cost: $6.76
25. Heat exchanger brackets (8A193) Part #: 2R3Z-8A193-AA List: $207.48 Cost: $124.49. One side of them. Im missing the other 2 but will have them shortly.

Refer to post #32 for pics

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Dammit Jeff..............Seeing all this, makes me want to jump on board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

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Im confused as heck. lol I need to find out what soft lines I need so I can hurry up and order this crap. Stupid holiday season takes toooooo much of my time.

BTW- Im editing my posts with your posts.

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its worth it. allot of these parts can be found used for much less. :3b:

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Oh yeah wu...............I have a lead on some good parts.......it seems simple, but there is so many little nuts and bolts..........I'm sure ya'll are getting a little frustrated somewhat

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trust me. im not looking forward to the nut and bolts part of my swap... or the wiring, or the power steering lines..... or the tickets. :D


i know there gonna be a time where im gonna be like wow what in the hell was i thinking? but i know in the end ill be happy i did it.

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I know i'll be the same way, i'm starting my swap in 10 days. Got all the parts ready to go except a couple small things i'm ordering through Jeff. Gonna be so much fun when its all done but the wiring/bolts/lines are gonna be a pain in the *** i'm betting. Can't wait to get it done and tuned, gonna be sweet.

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Yeah the big stuff is simple to come by ie; blower, manifold, fuel pumps, throttle body, MAF, injectors and aftercooler. It's all of the other BS you gotta get!!!!!!!!!!!

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hahaha that's exactly what I'm figuring I'll be saying when I do it..
WTF did I get myself into?!?!?!

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yep. not to mention ive had no previous 4valve experience. so its been a twisty road so far lol

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Im taking care of all those little things now. Im going to look at a car tonight to see what I need and find out part #'s to label the unlabeled parts in this thread and count bolts.

Hopefuly, this thread will be useful for those looking to go this route.

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For anybody following this thread, I updated the first post with a parts list with part #'s for what I had.

Enjoy and happy hunting to all.

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((9B659))intake tube from maf to t/b.

((9A825))Cruise control cable

((9728))Throttle and cruise control cable mounting bracket


I updated those for you with base numbers so that everything has one. You can edit the first page with them if you'd like. :D

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thanks guys :THUMBSUP:

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Ya know what my question is? I read through that write-up on extreme hp. The elctronics, they didn't mention much about how that all works. Once you bolt everything up and wire it in, it just fires right up without any tuning or anything? That's how it sounded from that guys write up. That just seems odd though because the ecu isn't set up for boost.. Anyone have any clarification on that front? Plus the Cobra uses and IAT sensor and the boost bypass..

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i remember reading somewhere that they had a dyno shop give them a box tune just so they could start it. ive contacted him a few times already about various things concerning the swap.

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Ahhh ok, that makes more sense. What have you asked him about? maybe it's the same sort of stuff i'm wondering.

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the part i hate doing the most... grinding sh!t off the block.

the alternator wiring

intercooler pump wiring

some pcv stuff.

im sure im gonna have alot more.

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Well i'm coming along pretty well, i've got everything removed down to the timing cover, just about to pull that since i finally got the tool to remove the harmonic balancer. About half way down on the knock sensor bosses being ground down, those are such a pain in the ***, never expected it to take this long. Such a slow process and getting anything major down in the there is not happening. So far so good. As far as tuning, i'm gonna try to have my insurance company pay for towing to a "trusted shop" to work on my car since it isn't driveable haha. Hopefully that'll work out, don't have too far to go. How's your swap coming Wutang?

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the tool i need for the balancer to come off is on order :D so when that gets here i can make some more progress. im gonna continue grinding down the knock sensor mounts on the 26th.

im gonna call my tuner and have give me a box tune just so i can start her up and check for leaks/gauges working properly and then have it towed 50 miles to his shop so he can work his magic. :THUMBSUP:

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hey guys, im going to send my blower to stiegemeier for a stage 1 port and full rebuild. anyone going to get any port work done?

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Go with a stg 4 for just a little more. You should have sent it in last month as they were having a discount.

I can't see myself spending that much for a ported eaton with upgrading to a whipple by the end of this year.

So with that being said, I'm going to take apart my s/c and port it myself. I already did the plenum. Go to svtp.com and there's some good pics of guys doing it themselves with some good gains. After looking it over I think it wont be too hard to do myself and save that $500.

Archie

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hmm...im worried a stage 4 will be to much for the stock bottom. i mean your talking over 500rwhp.

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There are part numbers/lists all over this thread. Can anyone condense it into 1 single list? with prices for the parts that have their prices posted?

I'm finding this thread almost hard to read. Even If its just full parts numbers I'll happily spend time tracking down new Ford prices to post up.

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First post has all the part #'s needed to complete the whole swap.

Parts with pictures are on page 2.

There's a cobra guy running a stg 4 at just 475 on a stock bottom. From what I understand it's all in the tune.

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ok then I'll work on putting together a part/cost spred sheet :)

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i contacted "Dyno Bob" (the head guy over there) and he said this....

Org. post: Hey bob, i have a 04' mach 1 i am doing a Eaton conversion to.(i will be running the stock pulley on it.) i noticed that the pulley (when spun by hand) has a slight wobble to it. so i will be sending it in for a rebuild also i was looking at getting some porting done to help lower IAT as much as possible. what would you recommend?

Reply: We have done those exact set ups with stage 4 with 9-10 lbs boost. Your motor has more compression so that helps with a safe tune.

Thanks and please enclose a note with name and phone number we do call once it arrive s let us know which service's you will be wanting.

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X2!!!!!

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It won't be accurate. Alot of the parts can be sourced used for cheap while other's will have to be bought new. Not everyone is going to try and go to the dealer for a lower pulley cage for $400 when you can pick up one used for about 70-120 used.

My kit I put together is running right around 2k right now. That's with alot of extra's that im going to turn around and sell to get some of my money back.

Archie

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True, the pricing would be a worse case senario, but it would still be handy to have to tell if you are getting a deal on a part of not.

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Do you already have kits ready to go.?

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thinking about the eaton swap again? :claus:

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HAHA I havent sold the eaton stuff I have. I would rather pay one of you guys to put one together instead of me cause I get pissed off to easily, hahah

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you have a pm.

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Pulley for mount under s/c.
pulley, timing cover drivers side
(8678B) Idler pulley,timing cover pass. side (($14.25))
(8678A) Pulley on drivers side (($14.26))
(6B209A) Tensioner on timing cover (($40.77))
(8260) Radiator hose (($18.98))
(8A593) Radiator hose (($21.27))
(8K576) Radiator hose (($15.18))
(9F715) IAC valve (($50.19))
(9H308A) Intercooler hard lines that hug the block
(8N500) Intercooler pump bracket (($52.73))
(9L443A) Intercooler line that goes from the i/c adapter to i/c res.
(9L443B) Intercooler line that goes from the i/c adapter to the hard lines that hug the block
(9L443C) Intercooler line that goes from the hard line against the block to i/c pump
(9728) Throttle and cruise control cable mounting bracket
(9A825) Cruise control cable (($16.90))
(9A758) Throttle cable (($22.75))
(6C324) PCV tubing (($29.39))
(6020) Timing cover gasket LH side (($7.36))
(6020) Timing cover gasket middle (($4.94))
(6020) Timing cover gasket RH side (($4.81))