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Great right up man.. That just makes me want to go get a set of cams and install them... I know me and all of my Motor head friends over here shouldn't have a problem installing them.. But those springs do look to be a MOFO to install... Great Job and it sounds awesome...

Dan

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Thanks Dan -

Cam install easy, but cannot begin to tell anyone how tough those springs were - putting the keepers is a killer.

You're from Texas - Louise would be mad if you got cams - wouldn't she? LOL

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She is already mad at Me.. Thats my main compition around here.. We go to the track all the time.. Do you know the part number for the springs your ordered from CompCams... And how much were they.. Thanks Man... Now I'm thinking about do this too.. Smokey is going to be a bad MoFo when I get finished with him..

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Dan

Spring part number was 26123-32 - I paid $377.60 - not sure if that is good or not. I was short on time once I found out the Ford Springs were too tall.

Retainers (required - cannot use stockers) part number 799-32 - I paid $99.84

Good luck - you already have a fast Mach - Cams and he'll make a lot of folks mad.

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Thanks alot.. I think I know what I will be doing to Smokey come this summer.. :yes:

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i just though i would mention. that you dont need to paint all the chains and gears. if you look in your pics you will see some dark colored chain links. those line up with the dots on the cam and crank gears when engine is at tdc #1 but your way works just as good.

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I did use all the factory marks after getting true dop center on the firing stroke for number one cylinder. You can see in the painted pics that factory marks are visible. Chains do not have to be marked at all when all sprockets are positioned. Just did that for everyone else - can use that method even without proper positioning of timing marks. The position of timing marks are the most important concern - crank sprocket at 6:00 and cam sprockets at 12:00 in relationship to head and the chains then do not matter. I guess just to be sure, I'll make this point even clearer. When I say 6 & 12 o'clock - I am speaking of the timing mark on the sprockets - not the keyway. Thanks -

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Wow. That sounded Awsome. I can't wait. I having my Crower Stage 2's done in about 2 weeks so I can't wait until then. But I really want to see what it's going to be like after Jerry from SCT tunes the car in April. Should be a fun ride down the track now. Looking for that 11.99 pass. Can't wait to see what your car turns in 1/4. Post it up. -Stick-

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The install don't sound to bad..has anyone thrown any boost at a mach with the Ford high lift cams.
RJW

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Not that I know of, but would be awesome. I would want forged pistons and rods for that mod.

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Just wondering would we/I still be safe with only 8 psi boost?

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Stay under 10 pounds and keep the A/F in the high 11s to low 12s and you should be fine.

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An update -

Took the car to the track tonight for my son. Track was absolutely horrible. I did not see one pro car stay it it for a full run. MattN03 from the registry was there in his 13.00 Mach - he was sideways when he hit 2nd and had to lift. I usually dry hop before staging at 5000 RPM - if it hooks real good - I leave higher. Did not even try to hook behind the line so I left below 5000. I spun all the way through 1st & 2nd; even spun a little hitting 4th. Amazingly still pulled off a 12.17 at 112 plus. Yeah go figure - that is what it ran late last fall except MPH was lower (lower horsepower on stock cams) - it also hooked last fall. These cams really do pull much harder - 60 foot was way off - 1.71 - 330' way off (almost a tenth off) - by the 1/8th it had recovered enough from spinning to run 7.70s and finsihed out with the 12.17. I only ran 20 degrees of timing tonight - good thing I did not run more. There is a lot of ET left laying there -


A little about the car -

Race weight was 3460, car has stock intake - throttle body - heads and short block. Stock seats up front - air conditioner still hooked up and working. We drive it to and from the track. Other major mods are full exhaust - C&L CAI - 4.56 gear - Pro Star Rims with ET Streets - front suspension.

Weather

It was cool - 50 degrees, but the barometer sucked - 29.83 - lowest barometer we have seen on TNT - usually 30.15 - 30.30. A few weeks ago the barometer was 30.73, but track closed. Actually good that barometer was low - if it had been higher - just would have spun more.

Guess we will give the track a few more weeks before trying again. They usually scraped it clean every year and it hooks like crap for a few weeks. Of course - would not kill them to give up a little VHT - they think its' gold.

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Johnny, I ran one more time after you left, and it was just as bad. I hit 2nd, and the car was all over the track. I had to lift, so it killed my ET. I think I'm going to call Memphis Motorsports tomorrow and :anger: a little about the track never being sprayed. I wonder if it'll do any good??? It's to the point where it's dangerous because a car could go any which way when they launch!! :grr:

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MachOneThis, Your matching FR500 Intake is on ebay !!!

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I'll have to check that out - money money money

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Try this - for those who have run ET Streets - should be able to tell by launch rpm that I did not launch high. I did a dry hop right before staging and car was spinning bad so I keft below 5000. You can hear it spin all the way through first gear. This was first pass with cams. The lightning in the left lane ran a 13.70 best - his previous best was 13.01 - track horrible - I just went home. Most everyone just went home - no good runs.

Might have to right click and save to play depending on your media player.

http://www.memphislightnings.com/videos/MachThis.mpg

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Doesnt look any worse than my track on any given street nite?? Did you "prepare" those tires at all other than the "dry hop" you speak of?? You really didnt spin that bad concidering the 4.56 gear?? What was your tirepressure?? A little spin to keep the RPM's up isnt to bad.. IMO only giving the track 1 pass is like going to the amusement park & only riding the carousel once.. Seriously, ive been to a really "BAD" track nite.. By nites end ive got the tirepressure, suspension, struts, shocks dialed in to the point where it almost doesnt matter.. The 10.5 PSI & softest setting with struts can in itself cure alot & only lose about a tenth max at that adjustment. :smokin:

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Rodney

We always let about 30 minutes of time trials go by before we make a pass just to clean the track up. We would have stayed and worked with it, but it was not just us. If it was not for ET Streets and leaving lower - we could not have run what we did. Had about 11.6 pounds of air in tires - no tubes. Did do a good burnout - no hook behind the line at all on dry hops - that's whay I decided to leave low and just put in a good pass. That L in the other lane made three passes - 13.70-14.40. His best was 13.01 from last year. MATTN03 was there from the Registry - he ran a 13.59 best when he ran 13.00s a few weeks ago. No sense in putting wear and tear on car just to leave at a low RPM. Good luck with your cams.

Burnout baby

http://www.memphislightnings.com/videos/burnouts.mpg

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Come on down to Memphis anytime 03AV8R and try out our track yourself. :smack:

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I understand.. Personally i will be looking at my times between the 1/8th & 1/4 with my new cams.. This will be most important to me.. my track with its totally new surface is going to be so green come Apr. 1st that i know the launches & 60's are going to be terrible.. People will prolly leave too..

On my tracks worse day of the season my ET between the 1/8th & 1/4 is still approx. 4.3 Sec... If i put in new cams & granny the girl off the line, miss 2nd gear (on Apr. 1st) i will still have a good understanding of where my car is at if my ET between the 1/8th & 1/4 is on my slip, which it will be.. i will jujst ignore the first 1/8th of the track.. A 4.3 or 4.2 or 4.1 sec ET between the 1/8th & 1/4 will tell me alot.. Its ALWAYS about the same regardless of track or any mistakes i mighta made. :smokin:

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Did you check your ET between the 1/8th & 1/4?? Track shouldnt really change the time from the 1/8th onward.. It never does on my slips.. If i was 2 tenths quicker in the second half of the track with new cams (than i EVER was before) i think id wanna know that.. If your ET is exactly as it was prior to cams for the 2nd half of track id wanna know that too.. Just a thought. :smokin:

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Keep in mind im not trying to start any trouble here.. (no really im not).. Im just rationalizing what id do with new expensive cams at the track & aparantly it is different from you dudes..

If i was at a super crappy track with a new set of cams id be like well when in Rome do some testing.. Let em all leave cause thatll just leave me with more track time to myself & my new cams.. Id completely ignore the times for first 1/8th & concentrate on the 2nd half of track (its why i bought my cams in the first place)

Ive got 500 slips with 4.3's & 4.2's between the 1/8th & 1/4.. Even on the worst days its right in that ballpark.. Have i ever hit a 4.1?? Nope.. Would i be trying tonite with my new cams (most expensive single mod to date) Yup!!

You couldnt have gotten a TEAM of Mustangs & 4 Hooters girls to drag me away from that track that nite.. Your just need to get to 4th gear basically & flooring it to see what the new cams have done for ya on the slips. The slips dont lie much between the 1/8th & 1/4 :smokin:

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Rodney

I think it is commendable how analytical you are with your runs. I always was as well when I raced every week. I raced the car for Michael while he was in Florida. I raced 7 & 8 second cars for 20 years - heads up - whatever - I do know a track that is so bad it is dangerous - I'm just lucky that I have enough experience to make a good pass out of a bad situation. Many people lifted the other night - some almost wrecked. I'm serious when I said I did not see one pro car stay it for a complete run. I could be wrong, but under the circimstances the 12.17 was very good and 20 more passes would not have told me anymore. The car was .040 off at the 1000 ft mark compared to a run last year with same ET, but managed to equal the ET in 320 more feet - that says it all. This car has never been entered in a bracket race - just gets to go to TnT for fun and play. Michael is looking forward to putting me down - he weighs 80lbs less than I.

I remember when I was at the point you are - keep it up - you are on a good track. These motors can easily run 11.50s or lower all day long NA with very little work.

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You had me pretty good till this last section of the reply?? (11.50's, Little work, N/A, all day long). I just aint seeing that on the 1/4 mile list? Not seeing it over at the corral either.. maybe 12.0's :)