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You gotta give credit where credit is due. And you got to admit, (hate them or not)The Hendricks organization has what it takes, great cars and great drivers.

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Speed Channel on Wind Tunnel -------------

"Intimidator vs BoyWonder, who is better"

Why even start that discussion!!! :concerned

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:wtf: That's a no brainer!!

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It's hard to beat a dead legend but in this case it still wouldn't matter.

Some people will never acknowledge his accomplishments because they just hate the guy. There is no denying he's a record setter.

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I agree. It's like trying to say who was the better running back, Walter Payton or Jim Brown. Who was better, Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron. There is no way to say for sure, it's all a matter of opinion.

However, as you stated, hate the guy or like the guy, there is no way you can say that he is not one of the all time greats. 50 years from now people will look back and say that Earnhardt and Gordon were two of the best drivers that ever raced in Nascar.

There are some that will say Earnhardt was not as good as Darryl Waltrip. Again hard to compare the two drivers. In my opinion, I will say this, Earnhardt was not the greatest of all time. That has to go to the legend who drove the #43, Richard Petty.

Sorry again Gordon bashers. I'm sure it hurts to admit it, but he is a great racer. I also find it interesting that most fans can admit this, the only camp that has a hard time are the Earnhardt fans. :yeh:

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Looks like Jr's managed to fall a few rungs down the ladder. After getting caught with illegal stanchions on his rear deck spoiler he's now out 100 points as well as 100 owners points for his step-mom and team owner. Tony Eury, Jr. get to pay 100grand and watch the next 6 poins races from the comfort of his recliner at home...ouch!
:borg:

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Nascar should check 24,48 cars to:secret: :yes:

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I just read where they found Vasoline in the drivers seats on the 24 & 48, but won't penalize them as it didn't make them faster, just slicker:butt:

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Probably helped them trying to get "on a pole".

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The way the Roush boys have been lately, the've been mostly "in the rear" LOL

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:MADNOEL: good one:LAUGH:

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Hot d@mn!!! Bill Elliott will be back in a Wood Bros. Ford starting with the CocaCola 600 next weekend!!! there may be hope for NASCAR yet, and maybe even Ford! (OK, it's still a way to use past champions provisionals, but I don't care! Awesome Bill's in a Ford!)

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...dex.html?imw=Y

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I think you are right, it doesn't make them faster, just easier for them to sit on the Pole;)

Bill Elliott back in a Ford. Kind of like your wife leaving you for the next door neighbor then coming back after 7 years. Not sure I am gonna throw a party for him. He has to apologize for alot and hopefully win a couple before I am back on the wagon.

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I met Bill a few times when I was at Development.
Really a nice guy, and a clean driver.
Always been a huge Elliott fan.

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Bill Elliot will just be making laps, that's it. No threat at all. If anything, he should take over commentating duties on NBC from when B.P. died.

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I don't think so. He's not the kind to just ride. :D

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I think there is one thing that we all can agree on here whether we are fans of the Hendricks team, RCR, Roush, or DEI. That is our opinions on the Toyota's.

Another success story for Michael Waltrip and his Toyota in qualifying. Nascar should start charging him for the cost to repaint the walls week in and week out.:23:

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You are so right, and he needs to open his own body and paint shop. That should save him a ton of $. He slapped the heck out of the wall last night. But on a Ford note, both pole winners (not to be confusedwith Jimmie or Jeff 'taking' a pole) were Ford drivers. Maybe there's hope yet...but I still don't have Speed so I guess I'll be reading about it in the paper tomorrow...
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not in a million years, no fricken way, yes, no way and yes, the Toyota's suck.

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I've been a devoted race fan all my life and Toyota is the least of my concerns with NASCAR. I prefer American cars but when you attend a Cup race there are Toyota fans and they provide some nice displays for the fans. I don't get some of the hate for the Toyota drivers. I would drive one tonight if that was a way to get a Cup ride. :o

It will probably keep the US based teams on their toes. Just imagine what an American can would be "quality wise" if there was no Japanese competition. The current crop of US cars is MUCH better because they have to be.
:D

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Wind Tunnel was better than I thought it would be --- referring to the "Iron-Head vs "WonderBoy" comparison.

They had some great stories recounted. :smokin:

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Juan Pablo Montoya completely sucks. I knew he'd be taking cars out as soon as I saw he was starting 5th in the qualification race. :notsure:

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Is it just me or is this AllStar Open/Race the most exciting race of the year so far? Bunch of crashes and it really is a shootout for the win! Sucks that Carl Edwards is commentating instead of racing but I love that the Busch brothers took themselves out! :D

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Yeah, that was some really good all out racing. Too bad Martin fell back at the end. That would have been sweet to see him win, but Harvick winning was better than the :OOPS: twins. (Gordon @ Johnson)

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Yeah, Harvick was my third pick. Martin, Burton, and then Happy. :D


Pretty exciting, I kinda feel bad for Kurt because he seems to be a different guy with the Penske guidance. :machgod:

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He's still a jag-off! It's just his ears are pinned back now so there isn't as much air getting in to fill the empty cavity between them! Newman's the class driver over there any way...

And I was so hoping Martin could have pulled it off but I'm definitely on the "anybody but Hendrick" bandwagon so I'm glad Yap-Yap won over JJ too! :D

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Haaaaa, what kind of engine was in the car Martin was driving???

:eek:

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It ain't their engines I dislike, it's their current trio of drivers (Mears isn't a jag off...yet!)
:D

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I think Penske put that nut case on riddlin'!!! Little brother should be gettin his azz kicked for making that boneheaded move. Could've been alot worse accident since they were up front.

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I agree. He seems to be a completely different person now. He seems to be a more calm and collected guy now. I use to hate him but not so much anymore. I don't root for him but I don't dislike him either. He's no Rusty though!!!

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I agree with the comment on Kurt Busch, he seems to have done a lot of growing up the last couple of years. I'm not a fan of his, but I also don't root against him like I use to.

As for the Hendricks stable. I'll take the Jimmy/Jeff tandum(I'll pass on Kyle, can't stand him) that most of you hate over the team of overrated drivers in the Roush team with the exception of Matt Kenseth. Matt is the only driver on that team in my opinion that is an elite driver. The others are good, but not in the league of Kenseth.

As for Martin, all class. I love what he said in his post race interview when asked what he said to Jimmy Johnson. He told him that he can flat out race a car.

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I think MEETING Sheriff Joe Arpaio was a eye-openning event for Kurt.

He seems to have woke up to reality and if the fans give him a chance he might develope into a favorite. His past is working against him and seeing Shrub pull stunts like last night, reminds us of the old Kurt. He was excellent when interviewed. :machgod:

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:agree:
Shrub is a dork.

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Martin to drive the #24

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

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Why not Jr. drove Shrubs car. :23:

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It would be a great honor for both Jr. and Martin(who is also excellent) to sit in a Hendricks car, especially for Martin to sit in one of the greatest ever. :31:

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Pardon my stupidity, and having never watched a NASCAR race before I'm completely clueless as to how this all works (that was sarcasm for all you Toyota and GM fans), but why is NASCAR showing a 47 car line up after qualifying? For whatever reason the number 43 (and not the Petty blue one) sticks in my mind as the number of cars fielded in a race. So what gives?
:borg:

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6848066 :secret:

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So easy a Caveman could figure it out.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...armysoeasy.jpg

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And, once again, Michael Waltrip FAILS to make the race.
Bill Elliott, made the race in the 21 car,
and did not need to use a provisional.
Take THAT Benedict Jarrett! :loser:

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It makes that commercial with Michael Waltrip, Dale Jarrett, and Sammy Hagar all the funnier.

"Could you turn the volume lower?" "Sure, could you drive alittle faster". :31:

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Unfortunately Jarrett finally made a race on speed as he qualified 23rd. :headbang:

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Not to mention, Blaney is 8th with a very fast car again. He is the class of the Toyota teams. :smokin:

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NASCAR.com finally got it all sorted out and got the owners points entries and so forth put right. It had Mikey in, ahead of Carl and Biffle. By the time the owners points entries got figured in he was out. I hate seeing those two Roush cars so far back, but Kennseth has our back up front. Interesting to see JJ and Gordon startin gso far back, and Martins qualified in even though word was that he was the back up driver for Gordons baby-watch.
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What an unbelievable jerk! I'm sick of this Jeff Gordon clown! Who the hell does he think he is? He actually puts his family before racing? What a horrible, horrible person! And he's GAY!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6847728

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First off, I'm not a Hendricks fan but I don't hate them. For all the haters out there complaining about Hendricks being able to test the COTs more then the other teams was beyond NASCARs control. It seems that Gibbs, Hendricks, and Childress were doing extra testing but they were doing it outside of NASCARs rules. Meaning they were doing them on tires purchased from other teams and on tracks not sanctioned by NASCAR. Therefore, they gave themselves the advantage, NOT NASCAR!!!! It just seems that the other crew cheifs and team owners didn't think of it and now they are paying the price. At least that is what I get out of this article.

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ing/index.html

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LMAO! Is that sarcasm I smell in the air?!? :D

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Good job by Kasey on the strong Busch win last night. Don't know what happened to Matt late in the race. He seemed to be in contention, and then when backwards really fast (although not as fast as Robbie Gordon...that was bizarre!).
:borg:

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Maybe NASCAR reminded them of their assigned finishing order :D