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tach9
12-01-2003, 08:45 PM
Hey All,

Was wondering if anyone else is considering getting a CAT back exhaust system for your Mach. I have been researching a lot of systems and have narrowed my choice down to Bassani ...unfortunately they happen to be the most expensive..best I've seen so far is $464.00 for the aluminized and $564.00 for SS...but was thinking that if we approached a dealer with a Group Buy maybe we could get a decent price fo the systems? What do you all think? Let me know and I'll pursue it further and see what I can come up with..

goebbelj@hotmai
12-02-2003, 03:15 AM
I'm in if you can do it.

jiggajay304
12-02-2003, 03:43 AM
I might be interested. Depends on how good of a deal they would give us, if any.

Jay

tach9
12-02-2003, 06:34 AM
Hey Guys, OK that makes 3 of us that want the system. I just e-mailed the dealer to find out what he could do. I also asked him since he is beginning to carry Borla's for an equivalent price of the Borla Stinger system like the Bassani, to give us an option as well...so as soon as I hear I'll post what he says!!! Thanks for stepping up, now it's the dealers turn...

VANILLAMACHSHAKE
12-02-2003, 08:43 AM
Log onto ebay and do a mustang exhaust search, you will find several dealers offering free shipping and handling. I bought my magnapack for 345 delivered: total.performance : mustangwarehousecom : techosolutions

Happy hunting

:THUMBSUP:

Dragman
12-02-2003, 12:23 PM
Got my Magnaflow 15671 from Performance-Peddler (on EBay) for $340 to my door!!

tach9
12-02-2003, 01:14 PM
Hey Guys, thanks for the info!!! Yes I have seen Flowmasters, MACS and Magna's on eBay, but not Bassani or Borla's with any frequency. I have a dealer that advertises on the net with free shipping and I have already posted his web pricing for anyone that wants to see. I am waiting his response to the Group Buy. I just wanted something different..Bassani or Borla...and discovered that they are the most expensive, thus the Group Buy idea. Thanks for the info guys...

VANILLAMACHSHAKE
12-02-2003, 02:48 PM
Total performance has bassani s/s $468 delivered

erikf
12-02-2003, 02:57 PM
Tach-

Be sure to post the cost of a group buy purchase. I am interested also.

Mister L
12-02-2003, 11:55 PM
I might spring for two sets if the price is right. I was planning on Magnaflow catbacks P/N 15671 and the cheapest I found a month or so ago was from JEGS around 360 a set. I am very interested in the Bassani or Borla systems if the rate is great for group purchase. Thanks tach!

H-TownMachI
12-03-2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Mister L
I might spring for two sets if the price is right. I was planning on Magnaflow catbacks P/N 15671 and the cheapest I found a month or so ago was from JEGS around 360 a set. I am very interested in the Bassani or Borla systems if the rate is great for group purchase. Thanks tach!

Try full line exhaust (http://www.fulllineexhaust.com) they are $330 shipped. Fast service. You will need to call them to order.

tach9
12-03-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by erikf
Tach-

Be sure to post the cost of a group buy purchase. I am interested also.

Hey Erik, Kewl!!! I sure will..still waitng to see what the dealer says...dang but he's slow in getting back!! if I don't hear back from him by tomorrow..I'm going to another palce that was recomended...

Mister L
12-03-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by H-TownMachI
Try full line exhaust (http://www.fulllineexhaust.com) they are $330 shipped. Fast service. You will need to call them to order.

I just went to their site and for the 15671 cat back system it says 377. Maybe they were previously on sale? I'll keep waiting for tach9 to get some info too

tach9
12-03-2003, 01:13 PM
Hey Guys,

Vendor e-mailed me this morning...says he's working on a special price and will get back to me later this afternoon!!!! He said that he was working on getting Borla's in his shop, but currently isn't officially authorized, but he is an official Bassani dealer, so that's what he's going to quote. I hope that doesn't mess things up for y'all. His prices on the Bassani regularly are better than what I've seen anywhere else..even online (and shipping is free), so I am hopeful that he'll come up with a killer deal. Let me know if Bassani only is going to be a problem. Sorry for the delay, thanks for the patience. :ANGEL:

DSG2003Mach1
12-03-2003, 01:26 PM
If he can give us a good price, Id be interested in the Borla kit.

goebbelj@hotmai
12-03-2003, 02:10 PM
Bassani's cool in my book. :THUMBSUP:

H-TownMachI
12-03-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Mister L
I just went to their site and for the 15671 cat back system it says 377. Maybe they were previously on sale? I'll keep waiting for tach9 to get some info too

Yeah that store is new and i was surprised to see the price at $377 for the Magnaflow cat-back. I would still call them(Ray Wright ask for him) and see if they will still sell them for $300 + shipping. Can't hurt to ask.

tach9
12-03-2003, 06:13 PM
Hey Guys, I'm please to see there are a few of you that want to possibly get a CAT Back Exhaust System. Well I got an answer from my vendor and I like what he posted me. However, he did also remind me to check on the mach1registry policies concerning posting Group Buys...duh.. I never thought of that and was actually impressed that the vendor reminded me that I should check!!! I have humbly sent an e-mail begging forgiveness from Dave...and asked him post haste, what the policies of the registry is. As soon as I hear from Dave....I'll let everyone know. I really am looking forward to getting the Bassani CAT Back!!!! :HOPPY: My apologies to Dave for being a dolt...:SMASH:

tach9
12-03-2003, 06:15 PM
Hey All, OK just got the word from Dave saying.."go ahead!!" Thanks DAVE!!!! We have until Dec. 19th to get our orders in!!! So here it is...please read the informatiion below carefully!!! AND follow the instructions for calling in your order. Please post to this thread if you are ordering so I can also keep track of who ordered. We will need to have a minimum of (5) orders in any combination of Bassani BX series or SS series CAT back exhaust systems. The vendor is www.ninosport.com I have no affiliation with them what so ever, I just searched for the cheapest price on Bassani Exhaust Systems and came up with them and contacted them. They also include shipping so I thought that that was a bonus!!! I'm in for a system, so we need 4 more to get the Group Buy going!!! OK..who's stepping up to the plate? Thanks!!!! :HOPPY: Below is the confirming e-mail I received from Ninosports...

Dear Aaron Tachibana,

Please notify the group purchase members that the offer will be good
until Dec. 19th only. After that the regular prices will go back into
effect.


In order to get the following pricing I would need
for all the buyers
to phone in the orders and let me know that they are
with the
Mach1Registry group buy. Also, the orders will be
submitted when at
least 5 members turn in their order. Please make sure
you follow any
Mach1Registry Group Purchase guidelines about posting
prices.

Bassani BX Cat-back -- $449.95 including shipping
Bassani SS Cat-back -- $649.95 including shipping

Package deals
BX Cat-back & BX X-pipe with cats -- $449.95 + $349.95
= $799.90
including shipping
SS Cat-back & SS X-pipe with cats -- $649.95 + $469.95
= $1119.90
including shipping

Thanks,
-Nino

Toll-free: 1-866-646-6776
9am-9pm Central Time M-F

tach9
12-04-2003, 01:44 PM
Bassani CAT Back System Photo

H-TownMachI
12-04-2003, 02:33 PM
Cobra system;)

goebbelj@hotmai
12-04-2003, 02:36 PM
Sorry Man, I'm not seeing any discount here. What happen to the original price of 564 for SS?

H-TownMachI
12-04-2003, 02:38 PM
These guys Houston Performance (http://www.houstonperformance.com) can do a better deal @ $565.

tach9
12-04-2003, 04:27 PM
Hey Guys, thanks for the input..yeah the original price was on his website and now that you mentioned it..it has changed!!! I was interested inteh "cheaper" route with the BX system..so the I wasn't paying attention. Hmmm. I'll post Nino and ask what''s up??? Hey if you'd like to take on the Group thing with Houston, I'd be happy to relinquish my posiotion..what do ya say??? Cheaper pricing always helps and especially now that Xmas time is here!!! Let me know...

tach9
12-04-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by H-TownMachI
These guys Houston Performance (http://www.houstonperformance.com) can do a better deal @ $565.

What the Houston Performance website list doesn't say specifically if the system is for a Mach 1...so I don't know about that. I got an e-mail from Nino saying he cannot touch that $565.00 price and says "Good Luck" to all of us in our quest. He has been keeping tabs on the posts on the registry. I for one still want the Bassani system. Personally, because I live in California, I am not interested in getting the SS system, but want the lesser expensive BX system. Nino's price is $449.00 and that includes shipping, which I personally thought was a pretty good deal? Anyone have any comments on that? Also ok I know the obvious advantages of SS..but in reality and practical everyday purposes, does SS have that much of an advantage that it warrants the extra $200.00!!! Now I do not live in the mid or the east so I am not subjected to the extremes in weather, ice, snow salt etc...winter is a bit of rain, temps in the 50's at worst...summer is warm but we have no humidity to speak of...so can someone enlighten me as to why SS would be better than the Aluminized BX system? I appreciate it..

goebbelj@hotmai
12-04-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by tach9
What the Houston Performance website list doesn't say specifically if the system is for a Mach 1...so I don't know about that. I got an e-mail from Nino saying he cannot touch that $565.00 price and says "Good Luck" to all of us in our quest. He has been keeping tabs on the posts on the registry. I for one still want the Bassani system. Personally, because I live in California, I am not interested in getting the SS system, but want the lesser expensive BX system. Nino's price is $449.00 and that includes shipping, which I personally thought was a pretty good deal? Anyone have any comments on that? Also ok I know the obvious advantages of SS..but in reality and practical everyday purposes, does SS have that much of an advantage that it warrants the extra $200.00!!! Now I do not live in the mid or the east so I am not subjected to the extremes in weather, ice, snow salt etc...winter is a bit of rain, temps in the 50's at worst...summer is warm but we have no humidity to speak of...so can someone enlighten me as to why SS would be better than the Aluminized BX system? I appreciate it..

The 99 and up GT catback and H-pipe are the same as ours.

tach9
12-04-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by goebbelj@hotmai
The 99 and up GT catback and H-pipe are the same as ours.

Hey Joe, thanks..OK..so they have better prices then..$565.00!!! Now can you tell me why the SS is better than the BX aluminized susytem performance wise etc. I am a bit confused here. I am not looking for eye candy, but a little boost in performance and sound. I don't have to deal with heavy rain, sleet, snow, salt or humidity i the summer...please someone tell me why SS is the better choice forthe extra $200.00. Ralph Greene, are you out there? Does SS have some inherent performance capabilities that aluminized doesn't?

goebbelj@hotmai
12-04-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by tach9
Hey Joe, thanks..OK..so they have better prices then..$565.00!!! Now can you tell me why the SS is better than the BX aluminized susytem performance wise etc. I am a bit confused here. I am not looking for eye candy, but a little boost in performance and sound. I don't have to deal with heavy rain, sleet, snow, salt or humidity i the summer...please someone tell me why SS is the better choice forthe extra $200.00. Ralph Greene, are you out there? Does SS have some inherent performance capabilities that aluminized doesn't?

There probably isn't a performance difference. Never seen any dyno results stating otherwise. SS has a lifetime warrenty. Bx has a 13 month warrenty (I think). Yes, of course SS looks better. :CHEERS:

tach9
12-04-2003, 08:28 PM
Hey All, just got this response from Ninosports:

Aaron,

To answer your questions on the pros/cons of the BX, the BX cat-back
is exactly the same design as the SS but it uses aluminized exhaust
tubing and muffler shells. The exhaust tips and the internal parts of
the mufflers in the BX are stainless steel. That's right, stainless
steel. The BX system also does not include the exhaust tips baffles
normally included in the SS kits ($35 each from Bassani). The BX has
an 18 month warranty. In your part of the country the BX makes a lot of
sense since you will be saving a lot of money and you still get a lot
of stainless steel parts in the kit. Hope this helps.

By the way, my offer still stands if anyone is interested. My "good
luck" statement was not meant as a farewell.

-Nino

Now I am appreciative that Nino is answering the concerns over the SS vs. BX system. I am going to oder the BX system...anyone else?

stangdiablo
12-05-2003, 03:54 AM
have you heard anything about the horsepower gains from that bx or ss exhaust on our machs... im very interested.

RossG
12-05-2003, 10:47 AM
Hey guys, I know Nino personally. He is a great person and will not steer you wrong. If you possibly can support him, please do so. He has put a lot of time and effort into his products and his store and he also owns mustangexhaust.com. Many of you have spent some time there.

Just wanted to post and let you guys know who you were dealing with.

ps. I would buy from Nino before I would buy from Steve at HP..

H-TownMachI
12-05-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by RossG


ps. I would buy from Nino before I would buy from Steve at HP..

I would too if price wasn't in the picture.

moodym
12-05-2003, 01:01 PM
Hi folks,
I am just now catching up on this thread. I would like to get a cat-back since that alone will not void my warranty. So long as you don't touch the mufflers or cats, your okay right?

Question: Does a cat-back alone help performance. I have heard that cat-back alone does not help? Has anyone done a dyno on cat-back?

Thanks,

V/R, moodym:THUMBSUP:

DSG2003Mach1
12-05-2003, 03:12 PM
A cat back system is replacing the mufflers..its everything after the cats to the tailpipe. The catback (it differs from just a muffler in that it has all the other tubing and hangers you need to fit right on) will probably only get you 5hp or so. Its mainly for sound.

As for the warranty deal, technically they cant void your warranty unless they can prove the mod caused the problem, but it never seems to work out that easily. I would just contact the service department and ask them their policy on that stuff...one here says as long as a Ford tech puts it on, you're good to go. The other says no blowers, no nitrous, no MAFs and its all good.

BT03mach-1
12-05-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Dragman
Got my Magnaflow 15671 from Performance-Peddler (on EBay) for $340 to my door!!


I was thinking about getting my catback from them. Are they OK?
I don't trust them people on ebay.

Thanks,
Bill

Mister L
12-05-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by BT03mach-1
I was thinking about getting my catback from them. Are they OK?
I don't trust them people on ebay.

Thanks,
Bill

I dont see anything wrong with the folks on ebay as many have bought products from them. I too, just bought the 15671 Magnaflow catbacks from Performance Peddler on ebay and the price was the same (340 delivered). In fact I am getting ready to order another setup for the Black one. Delivery is scheduled for 9 December on my first order. My only complaint is paying via Pay Pal. To me, that system is a pain in the ......... Much easier to just give a card number and be done with it, although I suppose the Pay Pal headache is for my own safety!

tach9
12-05-2003, 07:18 PM
Hey Guys, I think Nino is a pretty kewl dewd too!!! I am impressed with his ability to understand and provide service... a long lost art IMHO!!! Anyways, I am going to order the BX system at $449.00 shipping included..that seems like a good price!!! Even though a local well known vendor will match Nino's price, I feel that Nino has given me the service that warrants my purchase dollars!!! OK..now if any of you want to get in,please follow the instructions in my post above. As far as HP gains...Ralph Greene sent me some dyno's of CAT Back system he had on his car and it made 10rwhp more...not a lot but better than I expected!!! Adding a X pipe to the CAT back added another 2 to 3rwhp. Basically, for me the CAT back gives a bit of HP, is lighter than the stock system and ads a bit of sound to the Mach...well worth the $449.00 IMHO!! OK guys lets step up and order so I can get my systems ASAP!!! We have till Dec 19th!!! Please let me know how many of you arwant to get in on the deal. We need 5 systems of either BX or SS. I want my system ASAP!!! So if we cannot get the 5 systems, I'll have to go to my local dealer as I want it now!!!!! :ANGEL:

BT03mach-1
12-05-2003, 11:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mister L
I dont see anything wrong with the folks on ebay as many have bought products from them. I too, just bought the 15671 Magnaflow catbacks from Performance Peddler on ebay and the price was the same (340 delivered). In fact I am getting ready to order another setup for the Black one. Delivery is scheduled for 9 December on my first order. My only complaint is paying via Pay Pal. To me, that system is a pain in the ......... Much easier to just give a card number and be done with it, although I suppose the Pay Pal headache is for my own safety! [/QUOT

I have got alot of stuff for my GT from ebay but I always hear these bad stories so I always worry

tach9
12-05-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by BT03mach-1
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mister L
I dont see anything wrong with the folks on ebay as many have bought products from them. I too, just bought the 15671 Magnaflow catbacks from Performance Peddler on ebay and the price was the same (340 delivered). In fact I am getting ready to order another setup for the Black one. Delivery is scheduled for 9 December on my first order. My only complaint is paying via Pay Pal. To me, that system is a pain in the ......... Much easier to just give a card number and be done with it, although I suppose the Pay Pal headache is for my own safety! [/QUOT

BTOmach03, here's areply I got from Ninosports...all that are interested in Magnaflows may want to read it. I am still waiting on your orders!!!!! I want my Bassani NOW
I have got alot of stuff for my GT from ebay but I always hear these bad stories so I always worry :HOPPY:

Aaron,

It seems there
is some interest in the MagnaFlow products so I've come up with some
discounted prices that can be included as part of the group purchase.

MagnaFlow SS Cat-back -- $349.95 including shipping
MagnaPack SS Cat-back -- $349.95 including shipping

Thanks,
-Nino

tach9
12-06-2003, 12:17 AM
Hey All, I'm noticing a trend here... I think if one waits long enough and looks hard enough, you may be able to find a better deal and save yourself some dollars, but in the overall picture of things...you may have to wait a while to save less than $10.00 or so. What I have tried to do was maximize "our" buying power with a reputable vendor that was just as interested in working with us to achieve our buying goals. I have even tried passing the ball to "others' that suggested that "another" vendor might be cheaper etc... So far I haven't hadn't any takers of picking up the ball and running for us. Nino of Ninosports has been trying to help us as best as he can. I know he's the vendor and he's the one getting the sales, but if any of you have ever run a small business, you'll know that it's very hard to make a decent profit!!! The larger the vendor you are, the better the pricing you receive from the manufacturer (or it is incentized via credit or rebate programs but you have to be a big time dealer of products). They do not make hughe profit margins and I suspect that Nino's margin exists under 10% when all is said and done with shipping etc. I know this very well as I myself have a small tire dealership and I have first hand knowledge of how things work in this marketplace. I just happen to like the little guys..they seem to want to work harder for our money in service and support!!! I have no affiliation what-so-ever with www.ninosports.com and am a buyer just like y'all. I just wanted to see if we could get a better deal via volume so I myself could have a little more Xmas dollars to spend on the significant other :) I hope we don't get into a nickle and dime thread. I for one am willing to work with a vendor that is willing to work with us and I have every reason to believe in Ninosport's ability and desire to work with us here!!! Yes "maybe" someone on eBay can fid a BX Bassani system for $10.00 less...but I feel more comfortable knowing the vendor of choice is actively participating with us to make the Group Buy happen. We can wait forever to find that "extra" $10.00's or we can go with what we've got and still know we're getting a pretty good deal. Just think of all the "other" Mach 1 owners that already bought their systems and that they didn't benefit from the volume purchase that we can. :soapbox: I want my system now don't you guys :MADNOEL: Sorry for the Soap Boxing... I want my Maypo!!! LOL..!!!

Mister L
12-06-2003, 12:41 AM
Tach9 I commend and want to thank you for your efforts. When the thread started, I was genuinely interested in the possible purchase of Bassani or Borla systems, however even with the group discounts that you have negotiated which I think are great prices, they still exceed my intended budget on systems.

I have been following the Magnaflow/Pack threads for the past few months and had/have determined that the 15671 system is best suited to my taste as well as my budget. In fact, the prices on these systems are somewhat less than I viewed a month ago and includes the shipping. This savings is substantially more than $10 and I am in total agreement that spending an extra $10 for quality/service/dependability of any marketed product by a local shop or "mom and pop" is what keeps small business successful.

I honestly don't think the bulk of the members will squabble over ten bucks to support a "group" purchase from a reliable vendor, but there are so many available systems out there and great competitive pricing that one has to decide what is best for them.

If I were a California coast or Arizona owner then the BX system would have met my requirements, but living in Oklahoma I preferred the SS systems as our weather includes ice, snow, salt, rain, dirt etc and the price just didnt fall in my range.

tach9
12-06-2003, 12:45 AM
Mister L, thanks for the very kind words.. I really appreciate it!!! It's a lot more work than I imagined to chase this stuff down. I hear what you're saying and I totally understand!!! BTW..check the post..Ninosport is now offering Magnaflows/packs SS $349.95 IIRC...anyways, thanks for the response.. I am appreciative of your sentiments..good luck on the systems!!!

chrisbenton876
12-08-2003, 10:35 PM
hey tech9 im interested in the group buy! im new to this site! ive only had my mach 1 for about 1 month but im ready to start the upgrades! i previously had a 2000 gt with lots of mods. anyway, as soon as you get enough people let me know! make sure im on that list. im not really sure what to do so please email me with instructions on what to do or who to call with my credit card # !:??: im would be interested in the bx system with an x-pipe!

tach9
12-08-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by chrisbenton876
hey tech9 im interested in the group buy! im new to this site! ive only had my mach 1 for about 1 month but im ready to start the upgrades! i previously had a 2000 gt with lots of mods. anyway, as soon as you get enough people let me know! make sure im on that list. im not really sure what to do so please email me with instructions on what to do or who to call with my credit card # !:??: im would be interested in the bx system with an x-pipe!

Hey Chrisbenton876, here's the details. You need to call Ninosports directly to get in on the deal..Thank you for participating!!! I can't wait to get my Bassani CAT back!!!

Hey All, OK just got the word from Dave saying.."go ahead!!" Thanks DAVE!!!! We have until Dec. 19th to get our orders in!!! So here it is...please read the informatiion below carefully!!! AND follow the instructions for calling in your order. Please post to this thread if you are ordering so I can also keep track of who ordered. We will need to have a minimum of (5) orders in any combination of Bassani BX series or SS series CAT back exhaust systems. The vendor is www.ninosport.com I have no affiliation with them what so ever, I just searched for the cheapest price on Bassani Exhaust Systems and came up with them and contacted them. They also include shipping so I thought that that was a bonus!!! I'm in for a system, so we need 4 more to get the Group Buy going!!! OK..who's stepping up to the plate? Thanks!!!! Below is the confirming e-mail I received from Ninosports...

Dear Aaron Tachibana,

Please notify the group purchase members that the offer will be good
until Dec. 19th only. After that the regular prices will go back into
effect.


In order to get the following pricing I would need for all the buyers
to phone in the orders and let me know that they are with the Mach1Registry group buy. Also, the orders will be
submitted when at least 5 members turn in their order. Please make sure
you follow any Mach1Registry Group Purchase guidelines about posting
prices.

Bassani BX Cat-back -- $449.95 including shipping
Bassani SS Cat-back -- $649.95 including shipping

Package deals
BX Cat-back & BX X-pipe with cats -- $449.95 + $349.95
= $799.90
including shipping
SS Cat-back & SS X-pipe with cats -- $649.95 + $469.95
= $1119.90
including shipping

Thanks,
-Nino

Toll-free: 1-866-646-6776
9am-9pm Central Time M-F

chrisbenton876
12-08-2003, 11:45 PM
thanx tech9! ill call first thing in the a.m.! just curious, how many you got on the list now?(how long do i have to wait). thanx again for the opportunity and just to let you know im going to get the bx system including the x pipe but no cats. for anyone else out there thinking of getting and off road x-pipe(no cats) dont forget the mil eliminators! with a little shopping you can usually get em pretty cheap! got the pair for my 2000 gt for under $3! :THUMBSUP: