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fastgenious
01-29-2008, 07:34 PM
What are the true values of 03 and 04 Mach's? I am pricing these out to replace one that I owned a few years ago and they seem to be under the 14K range(even though sellers may be asking much more). I want one that is under 10K miles and could be either stick or auto and located in the midwest. PM me if anyone is serious about selling. Thanks.

mach1nm
01-29-2008, 07:36 PM
i know someone selling a comp orange 04 with 20k miles for 16grand

FloridaOrange
01-29-2008, 07:43 PM
What are the true values of 03 and 04 Mach's? I am pricing these out to replace one that I owned a few years ago and they seem to be under the 14K range(even though sellers may be asking much more). I want one that is under 10K miles and could be either stick or auto and located in the midwest. PM me if anyone is serious about selling. Thanks.

So.....you don't know the current price range and you bash a guys price on his thread. :smack:

JDraper
01-29-2008, 07:54 PM
Two weeks ago I had my local dealer offer me 17k for my Mach. (04 with 23k on the odometer) And no, they didn't inflate the value. The trade was for a '07 GT-500 at list price so it wasn't a bargaining chip. $19-$20k for a low mileage Mach in excellent condition is reasonable. $14k is laughable....:smack:

BTW, I just ran my Mach through KBB to see what it's sale value is. Private party was $19745 and dealer was $22010

richyd92
01-30-2008, 03:19 PM
PM sent

Big Ron
01-30-2008, 03:40 PM
So.....you don't know the current price range and you bash a guys price on his thread. :smack:


:23: :23: :23:


I think what he is saying is "I want to buy a Mach 1 with under 10K miles and I don't want to pay more than $14,000 for it"......

don't we all?




Big Ron :smokin:

Blackpony04
01-30-2008, 03:41 PM
As a reference I just sold my 04 Mach 1 with 8000 miles for $20k. Regardless of the Blue Book value (which is never reality) I felt lucky to get more than $18k for it considering the time of year and the other cars selling in the area.

fastgenious
01-30-2008, 03:42 PM
So.....you don't know the current price range and you bash a guys price on his thread. :smack:

I know 2 guys that purchased Mach's for around 14K. One was an auto and the other a stick and I do not recall the mileage. I also know for a fact that KBB values are worthless and if you think you can get 19K-22K for your car, you should take it. I own numerous cars and if anyone brings up KBB they really are not very bright. 19K may be retail but a dealer is NEVER going to give you that on a trade unless he charges you retail for his car. I have owned a Mach in the past and enjoyed it and if I decide to buy another , I would give it to my son. Oh yea, I do own a GT-500 and no it is not a new mass produced 07-08, it is a 1967 GT-500.

FloridaOrange
01-30-2008, 03:47 PM
Knowing what someone paid for their car and not knowing the mileage or condition doesn't mean squat.
I'm happy for you that you own several cars, this doesn't mean someone can't ask 19K for theirs or that they can't get 19K.

:THUMBSUP:

RPC33
01-30-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't know where all of these cheap Mach 1's are at, but in N.C. you couldn't touch a really nice low mileage car for $14K. Although KBB is definitely not the final word in pricing it is where most individual buyer/sellers start the pricing process.

iceman302
01-30-2008, 06:04 PM
I know 2 guys that purchased Mach's for around 14K. One was an auto and the other a stick and I do not recall the mileage. I also know for a fact that KBB values are worthless and if you think you can get 19K-22K for your car, you should take it. I own numerous cars and if anyone brings up KBB they really are not very bright. 19K may be retail but a dealer is NEVER going to give you that on a trade unless he charges you retail for his car. I have owned a Mach in the past and enjoyed it and if I decide to buy another , I would give it to my son. Oh yea, I do own a GT-500 and no it is not a new mass produced 07-08, it is a 1967 GT-500.

Everyone knows a guy who found someone who was down on his luck and had to short sell a car.

Since the overwhelming majority of consumers rely on KBB to give them an idea of the value in what they're buying, I would say that it's you that isn't too bright.

I have an idea. Instead of relying on a source with a national database of vehicles that have sold at various prices, accurate measurements of depreciation, and detailed options lists, we'll all throw that out the window and just shoot you a PM. You obviously know more than anyone else. That much is clear.

Unrealford
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
Boy, I must have been a complete idiot to pay 22,000 for my 04 Mach with 5,000 miles on it from the dealer....:smack:

G
01-30-2008, 07:49 PM
Two weeks ago I had my local dealer offer me 17k for my Mach. (04 with 23k on the odometer) And no, they didn't inflate the value. The trade was for a '07 GT-500 at list price so it wasn't a bargaining chip. $19-$20k for a low mileage Mach in excellent condition is reasonable. $14k is laughable....:smack:

BTW, I just ran my Mach through KBB to see what it's sale value is. Private party was $19745 and dealer was $22010

Exactly!

G
01-30-2008, 07:53 PM
I know 2 guys that purchased Mach's for around 14K. One was an auto and the other a stick and I do not recall the mileage. I also know for a fact that KBB values are worthless and if you think you can get 19K-22K for your car, you should take it. I own numerous cars and if anyone brings up KBB they really are not very bright. 19K may be retail but a dealer is NEVER going to give you that on a trade unless he charges you retail for his car. I have owned a Mach in the past and enjoyed it and if I decide to buy another , I would give it to my son. Oh yea, I do own a GT-500 and no it is not a new mass produced 07-08, it is a 1967 GT-500.

Depending on the mileage and condition ---- I might give you $15K for it, if you seriously want to sell it. :23: I'll ignore the book value since they are worthless. :worship:

G
01-30-2008, 07:55 PM
:23: :23:


I think what he is saying is "I want to buy a Mach 1 with under 10K miles and I don't want to pay more than $14,000 for it"......

don't we all?




Big Ron :smokin:

:23: Yo Ron, put me down for 2 at that price. :worship:

03 Shadow grey
01-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Theirs a Azure Blue 5sp,IUP Mach for sale at a dealership here in Bowling Green with 70,000 miles and they want $15,900 is that reasonably????

G
01-31-2008, 12:00 AM
I keep an eye on the price (retail or private sale) nationwide and a good car with average mileage is $19K +. The mod'd cars seem to go for less and for good reason --- if you don't KNOW the car's history. I have seen a few for much less but there is usually a reason. I've always wanted a Azure auto for my wife and have never found a bargain on one. :)

fastgenious
02-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Just worked a deal out with someone on this forum that PM'ed me and we worked out a price. Paying a little more then I stated but we both are happy. You guys that think KBB is close in price are really miss informed. It really makes me laugh that everyone thinks their car is worth so much but in the real world these cars do not sell well. Great cars for the money but they suck on resale. Get real guys.

Big Ron
02-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Great cars for the money but they suck on resale. Get real guys.


so why buy one?




Big Ron :smokin:

65fastback2+2
02-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Just worked a deal out with someone on this forum that PM'ed me and we worked out a price. Paying a little more then I stated but we both are happy. You guys that think KBB is close in price are really miss informed. It really makes me laugh that everyone thinks their car is worth so much but in the real world these cars do not sell well. Great cars for the money but they suck on resale. Get real guys.

sounds like a vette owner fo sho

CompOrange
02-02-2008, 12:49 AM
All I can say is that the OP is an idiot. While KBB may not be the final say as far as pricing goes, it does play a very big role in gauging the value of a car in both private sales as well as dealer sales as well. Some markets have lower values while others will be higher, it really depends on where you live and the kind of condition the car is in. These cars have help onto their value pretty well considering everything, a low mileage $14k mach is unreasonable unless someone wants to unload it quickly or something isn't quite right.

G
02-02-2008, 01:13 AM
Just worked a deal out with someone on this forum that PM'ed me and we worked out a price. Paying a little more then I stated but we both are happy. You guys that think KBB is close in price are really miss informed. It really makes me laugh that everyone thinks their car is worth so much but in the real world these cars do not sell well. Great cars for the money but they suck on resale. Get real guys.

But you had to pay more than you stated???

I'm not a fan of the KBB but I also keep my ear to the ground on Mach1's and your nuts if you think they are hard to sell.

Why get stuck with one if you believe that way? :confused:

Blackpony04
02-02-2008, 01:21 AM
But you had to pay more than you stated???

I'm not a fan of the KBB but I also keep my ear to the ground on Mach1's and your nuts if you think they are hard to sell.

Why get stuck with one if you believe that way? :confused:

I just sold mine in 4 days for more than KBB retail, in the dead of winter! It can be done....

68Coupe
02-02-2008, 11:43 AM
Just found this thread posted by "genious" and though it was funny. The 2nd reply is classic.

http://mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36350

G
02-02-2008, 01:13 PM
Just found this thread posted by "genious" and though it was funny. The 2nd reply is classic.

http://mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36350

:23: :23: :23: Great find :worship: :worship:

motox40
02-03-2008, 05:35 AM
Sorry, I go with a car (or anything) is only worth what some one is willing to pay, Kbb and past sales have no meaning when your offer you get is less than what you thought it was worth. And the reality of the situation on 03-04 Mach 1's is there are more for sale than the market is buying (BUYERS MARKET). For every story of a 20-22K sale there are ALOT more for 4-5K less than that. The market says these are not worth 22-25K, if you get somewhere around that - good for you. Most $20k cars are VERY low miles and may be worth that to the buyer. These are not 1970 SCJ Mach 1's and are not holding value, (but then they didn't for about 20 years later). Slam me all you want, but the 03-04 cars are not worth that much, and the MARKET says that.

Unrealford
02-03-2008, 06:58 AM
The only reason I bought mine for 22,000 is because it came with a 6 year /75000 mi warrenty and only had 5,800 miles on it.. Plus it was local and the interest rate was 3.9. I almost bought one 6 months earlier. it was a 03 Asure with 2800 miles , but dealer wanted 23,500 and I met the person who bought it, the dealer woundt budge. So if your going to buy from a dealer expect a higher price anyways

Coven
02-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Houston Craigslist theres a Red Mach with 51k miles for 14k.

G
02-06-2008, 12:31 AM
Sorry, I go with a car (or anything) is only worth what some one is willing to pay, Kbb and past sales have no meaning when your offer you get is less than what you thought it was worth. And the reality of the situation on 03-04 Mach 1's is there are more for sale than the market is buying (BUYERS MARKET). For every story of a 20-22K sale there are ALOT more for 4-5K less than that. The market says these are not worth 22-25K, if you get somewhere around that - good for you. Most $20k cars are VERY low miles and may be worth that to the buyer. These are not 1970 SCJ Mach 1's and are not holding value, (but then they didn't for about 20 years later). Slam me all you want, but the 03-04 cars are not worth that much, and the MARKET says that.

(2) 2004's on carmax $18.9K with 37k and $20.5K with 30k
(1) 2003 $19.6K with 32k

This is pretty much the national average, I check it every few days. The data below is CarMax but it's pretty much the same everywhere. Mod'd cars don't bring any higher $$$ and often sit longer before a sale. If a car shows any abuse or has >50k for mileage the value DROPS. Around here they don't sit on a used lot for very long when you can find one.

About 2 years ago my neighbor traded his 04 Cobra for a new C6. When I found out I went to see how much they wanted (3 hours after it got to the dealer). Well it was there but sold already, another friend of mine traded his 03 DSG for it. The DSG was also sold and they didn't have time to detail it after it was traded in, it was sold within 1 hour. Every dealer in this area would love to have Mach1's to sell. :worship:

CMcCarthy
02-10-2008, 10:02 AM
Its crazy they are still worth so much. I paid $23,655 for my '03 5MT IUP car brand spanking new.

iceman302
02-10-2008, 12:11 PM
I just sold my '03 AB with just under 23K on it for $18,800... above KBB private party value here in CA.

Iceman91
02-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Its crazy they are still worth so much. I paid $23,655 for my '03 5MT IUP car brand spanking new.


Yeah, but I'm sure you used an A plan or something to get that price. If not, please tell me how you saved nearly seven grand off sticker on a brand new car.

Azure Blurr
02-10-2008, 12:41 PM
This thread is funny! :23:

I paid $24,000 for mine, used, at a year old. I'd really like a red Mach.
Kinda funny eh G? :crazy:

MAC[H]Z
02-11-2008, 09:06 PM
Yeah, but I'm sure you used an A plan or something to get that price. If not, please tell me how you saved nearly seven grand off sticker on a brand new car.


I paid $24,000 out the door, X-plan and there was a 3500 rebate at the time.

Big Ron
02-11-2008, 09:48 PM
Z;949681']I paid $24,000 out the door, X-plan and there was a 3500 rebate at the time.

true......that is AFTER the fact that in Jan - Apr 03 the cars were going for $2k - $5K over MSRP because they were ONLY going to make 6500 of them. I bought mine in April 03........three months later they were selling below MSRP with a $3000 rebate because they kept making them and would STILL make some more in 04...................:anger:

I bought mine to keep so it don't make any difference. However if I had known that they were going to make 15000+ instead of 6500 I would have done it differently and saved some money






Big Ron:smokin: